yeah, it is a bit funny though it is one reason and yeah it probably will be optional and that would be enough if not for some other problems that I have with the series, mainly I can't stand Geralt. He's a character that I don't like but this is more about the sexuality of the game than the hero.

And I kinda felt that I wanted to say what I said because while they're probably optional, The sex in the Witcher games are a great example of my problems with sex in Fantasy Fiction.

Cutscenes are most likely optional so just skip them or mute them, I don't see the problem.

I can't say I've really an opinion on them as I don't find them annoying or really want but someone mentioned they fit in the Witcher games and I agree with that. If it happens to piss off anti-sex people as well it's a plus; they need to adjust with the times.

At about 3 minutes each, that's more than 300 sessions of hot lovemaking. Not too bad!

I also don't like the sexuality stuff in games. And it's rather ridiculous to tell someone that their preferences are invalid b/c they have other preferences (I see violence vs sex with every one of these discussions. Violence and sex are apples and oranges and just b/c one person has qualms with one doesn't mean they can't have qualms with the other).

I think that for some people, they don't want to consume material that could have negatively affected an actor's personal life. And for others, they don't want to be emotionally influenced to do or feel something they don't like. In terms of violence: perhaps you don't want to force an actor to hold a gun b/c you don't think anyone should. And you don't think you want to see violence b/c it makes you deeply angry.

For some folks, they can't play a game b/c of alcohol content or drug content. I don't like to play games where I'm the bad guy.

I've come to a point now that I can brush off some of the sexuality. I didn't like Thief's sex sense, but it didn't ruin the game for me. I just couldn't play it with my kids around -- but I couldn't anyway due to the violence and language. I played W1 so far and the sexuality in it was immature and goofy.

What I don't like is having nudity stuffed in my face. I just don't like it for me. It makes me feel uncomfortable if my brain goes to erotic places that aren't directed solely toward my wife. That goes for all media I consume. And I fail at it quite regularly.

I also don't like overly gory stuff. I like my violence, in general, to be very fantastic in nature.

These are personal preferences of mine and I think a lot of people share my preferences. I know a lot of guys who won't play W3 b/c of those preferences. And many of them want to experience the gameplay or the story. They just don't want to experience 40% or more of a nipple on the screen.

I think there are cultural factors at play, too. Europeans are far more gracious and accepting of nudity and sexuality in media than most Americans. And it seems to boggle their minds that someone could have a different preference or cultural background than their own in terms of violence and sexuality in their media. It's weird to me that this one thing seems to be a weird blind spot for many, but it seems to be.

Anyway, hopefully the scenes can be skipped and they'll be tastefully done. I heard the opening scene is a whopper.

Either way, I'll probably end up playing it if I can beat 1 and 2 in the next decade. :)

Poor choice of words. :P

The highlighted bit is the most absurdly specific preference I have ever seen. If you find yourself counting pixels in a screenshot in order to determine if more or less than 40% of a nipple is visible, seek professional help immediately! However, I think I'll choose to believe that it's just awkwardly phrased and that you didn't really mean it the way it sounded.

As for the rest of it, I think you may in some cases be confusing people's motives. It's not that people can't understand that someone else has different personal preferences from themselves, but that some of those people seem hell-bent on imposing those personal preferences on everyone else. "You shouldn't make games like that" is not a statement of personal preference, but of a desire to control what others can and cannot do regardless of their personal preference.

And claiming that a game promotes rape because it contains consensual sex between adults is like claiming that a game promotes theft because it contains one character buying something from another.

I agree with you there. And I see better the motivation of defending it. Thanks!

The 40% thing was from observations my friend and I made ages ago. We noticed that a black bar would only cover up a person if roughly 40% of a nipple was showing. Unless, of course, it was a breast exam show. Then it could show the whole thing. We were watching one show (this was ages ago and I cannot remember which show) and we swore that if we had taped the show, we could completely assemble this one woman's breasts. They showed it all. Just not all at once. The whole boob + roughly 40% of the nipple at a time.

So we always laughed that it wasn't nudity unless at least 40% of one nipple is shown. Then it's nudity.

Now I think they call cleavage "partial nudity" in some games. I remember Dark Messiah of M&M had "partial nudity" listed, but I saw no nips. Just demon hanging boobies.

Anyway, all that said, what is okay for some to see is not okay for others (that's why we keep our kids away from it, right?). And for some, 40% nipple is just going to destroy them while for others, it has no effect. For some it's the setting, not the display. For others, they just can't stand the blood dripping off a sword.

Either way, Yay!!! for freedom of speech and artistic expression!

I'm rambling now, so I will bid you a fair adieu.

ITT: People with poor reading comprehension. It's not 16 hours of sex scenes, ya dumdums. It took 16 hours to capture the MOCAP FOR the sex scenes. Yeesh. If buttmad SJWfags want honest discussion, the least they could do is not post misleading bullcrap.

If the nudity is optional or someone comes out with an always-wear-underwear mod, I'll consider getting this. I really like deep open world RPGs. Until then, it's just not my cup of tea and I'm not going to spend money on it. It's irritating, and I wish the devs were more open to different preferences.

Well, the past page or so has been a pretty nice and mature discussion. Multiple people contributing their POVs without namecalling.

Until you dropped in to repeat something that's been brought up repeatedly. Next time maybe read the thread to see if your contribution fits the tone and isn't repeating previous posts?

I'm fine with Geralt getting all the sex he wants. From what I understand the first scene isn't optional though. I understand it's necessary to establish the relationship between Yennefer and Geralt for players who don't know their history. It helps explains Geralt's motivation for that first quest.

The only issued with sex I would have is if it involved Geralt and his daughter. I know they are not related by blood but it would be just f***ing wierd.

This is true, they could just as easily splice that into 24 hours of on screen sex.
You would really have to keep an eye on Geralt's health bar for that session.

I finally got an early look at this game and as much as it pains me to say, I kind of have to agree with the OP. It's not so much the sex it self but the way it is shown in the game. Seriously, I fail to see what this has to do with the Witcher storyline.

Okay so I haven't played the series as much as some of you, but seriously, how does that fit into the mythos?! Shit, that guy doesn't even look like Geralt!

Ah, this thread is a refreshing gust of sanity ^^.
Since there's only a single person grasping at straws here, my efforts have become largely meaningless, but I'll post these 3 links for anyone interested anyway:

Rape culture
Good advice
Why games are making society more evil

You're playing Lula again?

Not gonna lie, that thought would be hilarious. Endurance hits for too much sex!