Oh, I wouldn't say rape culture exists .. everywhere. But in certain places, certain venues, certain groups, rape is entirely accepted and even promoted.
The sports clubs and university clubs that have been exposed are just the tip of the dark underbelly that lies in our society.
Men still feel a "right" to fuck anything they want.

Rape culture... is that like a yeast infection?

I am pretty sure that there isn't 16 hours of sex in the game. That is because the motion-cap data is just to assemble the pieces needed to make the scenes appealing - much like how in a movie, there would be a lot of takes and retakes that are excised from the final product. Setting aside the technical details...

I am all for sex being accepted. If I can destroy people in a virtual world, an neutral activity like sex should be allowed. Sex is a good thing in the real world, unless violence and coercion come into the picture. Weapons are created for the express purpose of causing harm, yet get little outcry for being used in games. We should be allowed to do anything and everything in a artificial world, provided that no sapient life is harmed in the process.

Laws and morality should exist to protect people from being hurt - not to restrict people from enjoying their existence. In my opinion, the only reasonable exception to this is violent criminals and unscrupulous businesses, since they can permanently ruin lives.

Virtual actions should not hold the weight of real ones.

So this is why Witcher 3 get delayed again and again. Must be why all the developers don't want to stop working on the game.

Monstrous places, venues, and groups that serve as a wonderful reminder of why we have prisons. I'd assume there are also monstrous groups that are accepting of murder and other illegal, unconscionable acts, yet we never seem to hear about "murder culture."

Point is, it's trivializing a serious crime in order to fabricate a new problem for the sake of selling the solution, same as if I got everyone to warble on and on about how video games are contributing to some vaguely-defined murder culture by doing this thing and that thing that I don't like (and by not doing exactly what I want, they're helping murder culture—oh, the humanity). It's sick when people use and distort real problems to further their own platform.

Where have you been for the past few decades? There were a bajillion complaints about games promoting violence. Do gamers collectively have amnesia or something?

For the uninformed: Rape Culture doesn't mean every one is raping right and left. It means that jokes about rape are OK. It means that when 12 year olds get molested, people say 'She asked for it'. It means that women (or gay guys) are afraid to go certain places or be with certain types of people, instead of having a society where everyone is protected. It turns sex into a power play instead of 2 people having an awesome time. It makes finding the right person harder for everyone, because people are afraid.

I also wish the Witcher had less sex. It seems like the kind of game I'd love, but not if I have to deal with objectification like this. Optional sex would work too - why is CD Projekt too lazy to add a checkbox to the Options menu so people can opt into this?

I think the same, from when the "rape" became "culture"?

Fuck you and fuck off.

Did you forget that everyone mocked Jack Thompson and celebrated when he got disbarred because we all recognized how stupid the idea of games influencing real life was? Of course, that seems like a happy memory now that games apparently contribute to rape culture, because that totally makes sense.

Seriously? If we can't joke about the horrible things we would otherwise cry about, we might as well be dead inside.

I've never, ever heard anyone say this. Ever. Remind me to never move to wherever you live. It sounds terrible.

That's a lot of assumptions there.

1) Why do you think violence and sex are the same thing or have the same impact on people?
2) Do you actually know what the OP thinks, or are you just strawmanning?

Honestly, you probably live near some of those people. There are surprisingly creepy misogynists all around. Most men aren't aware because they don't get harassed. It's just not a thing that happens to most guys.

Statistically in the US, 1 in 4 to 1 in 10 women is sexually assaulted. 1 in 10 to 1 in 20 men admits to performing some act of sexual assault. The numbers are vague but pretty scary, even on the lower ends. They don't even include the catcallers or people who think rape jokes are funny because rape is cool (fraternities, man. I'm sure there are some OK ones out there, but I had to walk down frat row to get home for 2 years and aaarrgh. This was at a very liberal university too).

If you know 50 women and 50 men, you probably know at least one person who should be on the sex offender registry, and at least a handful of people who were assaulted.

About jokes - it's like jokes about being black, or about IEDs in Iraq. Too often they're too true, too close to the bone for people who haven't gone through it to make them without being offensive. There's a lot of stuff to joke about. Don't pick subjects that can cause PTSD flashbacks. That's just a jerk move.

It's pretty clear. The OP isn't complaining about being forced to kill humanoid pixel mannequins, but rather that there is sex with humanoid pixel mannequins in the game. It's not a stretch, therefore to assume the OP has no problem with the depiction of murder on people, but does take issue with the depictions of consensual sexual activity with people.

No one said that violence and sex are the same (they are in my house. BAZINGA!!) but rather that both are objectionable to large audiences and are therefore the facets under the most scrutiny for censorship. Basically the idea here is more exaggerated in the past than it is today. Movies/games/other visual media would depict explosive eradication of people an a grand scale and characterize it as heroic (First Blood, for instance). However, if you show one female nipple, the movies are no longer suitable for children. Long standing arguments here. But you'll jump on the internet lawyering (not a word) defense team in an instant to throw out some impressive terms like "strawmanning" (also not a word, the little red squiggly line in Firefox told me so) so you can feel more important than you are (see what I did there? I TOTALLY built a strawman argument around your accusation).

Further, his argument hardly qualifies as a straw man because he's not arguing against violence equally, but rather using a form of a relative privation fallacy. He's basically saying that it's pointless to argue gratuitous sex in the games because there's gratuitous violence.

Also you're reading into the idea that phaolo was serious instead of making a statement about the apparent hypocrisy prevalent pretty much everywhere when it comes to calls to censor violence versus calls to censor sexual content.
I'd just like to say that rape jokes aren't ever funny and they are far from the norm where I live.

The average person is apt to have sex and enjoy it with a willing partner. Murder is something that your typical human would not engage in, because it is recognized as a rule: "If I hurt you, others can hurt me." That is a world of difference from consensual sex, where the rule is "I will pleasure you, and you will reciprocate." Both are based on the idea of interacting with others, but only one promises mutual benefit.

Frankly, demonizing sex is a moronic stance. There is no benefit in outlawing or preventing sex. In my opinion, regulations regarding sex should be to benefit society - such as the provision of contraceptives, medical exams, safe working conditions, sex education, social acceptance, and so forth. Sex work should be allowed to propagate, with institutions in place to ensure that both provider and customer are able to act in safety.

About sex in your house: No Comment :)

phaolo is explicitly quoting the OP and putting words into the OP's mouth. phaolo is making an argument the OP never made, pretending it's the OP's argument, and then knocking it down. This is strawmanning a.k.a. the straw man argument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man If he was making a statement about general hypocrisy then he should have made that statement instead of characterizing the OP's argument.

There's no hypocrisy in taking a specific position on a subject. It's totally rational to consider either violence or sex inappropriate and exclude the one you don't like. It's only hypocritical when people who are supposed to be preaching peace and chastity don't bother with the peace part. To be fair, this is most major world religions, but it's definitely possible for someone to rationally take a stance on only one of violence/sex.

I personally argue for both less violence and less nudity/sex in games. I do think they're inherently different though. Both problematic subjects often portrayed gratuitously, but with different issues and impact.

Yeah, rape jokes are never funny. There is a disturbingly large percentage of people who think they are though. And apparently a lot of gamers think that kind of thing is at least tolerable, which is seriously upsetting. :/

I think you took my long winded post far too seriously. :P

I know what a Straw man is. He didn't really make that argument, but whatev. I don't really care at this point. I didn't really care then to be honest, I just felt like typing a lot to feel better about myself too. :( Thanks a lot for ruining that.

At any rate, My dogs are off in other fights anyhow, so I don't have one in this. >.> I don't support dog fighting either.