Posted February 10, 2022
Btw, I would like to PM you about the topic that is already locked. Can you allow messages to be sent to you?
LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
Registered: Dec 2013
From Russian Federation
Btw, I would like to PM you about the topic that is already locked. Can you allow messages to be sent to you?
dnovraD
GOG is not a charity! No Subscriptions!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted February 10, 2022
One approach GOG could take is the RTA Label; which is a thing I've seen on places like Inkbunny.
They also have a landingpage for ratings where you can set it to...I'll attach an image after this quick post. But there's also a broad tagging system which I feel would also go a long step.
Post edited February 10, 2022 by Darvond
patrikc
Get lost back to Vienna!
Registered: Dec 2013
From Other
Posted February 10, 2022
AMBROSIA SPOILERS AHEAD. Read at your own risk.
Steam splits Mature content like this:
General Mature Content
____Frequent Violence and Gore
____Nudity and Sexual Content
________Adult Only Sexual Content
Unselecting Nudity and Sexual will automatically unselect and hide AO Sexual Content, as the latter is dependent on the former (check attachment 1).
You need them all marked if you want to see everything the store has to offer (see attachment 2).
For testing purposes, I unchecked Nudity and Sexual Content, went to search for "Witcher 3" and got this:
60 results match your search. 32 titles (including The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt) have been excluded based on your preferences.
One would think filters work, at least partly, right? Well...
With the same settings, I then searched for Detective Girl of the Steam City. To my surprise, it came up just fine. Next thing I did was untick General Mature Content and, lo and behold, 1 exact match, censored based on your preferences. The game was still there, available for purchase, but its image blurred. When I tapped (I'm on mobile now) on it, I got this notification:
THIS GAME CONTAINS CONTENT YOU HAVE ASKED NOT TO SEE
General Mature Content
The developers describe the content like this:
“Detective Girl of the Steam City contains strong language.”
I would argue that is misleading by omission.
According to Steam, The Witcher 2 contains Adult Only Sexual Content and it will be removed from searches, but not Detective Girl of the Steam City (see attachments 3 and 4).
How about a more recent release that also made its way to GOG? Game in question is Ambrosia and it will appear in search results (with Nudity and Sexual Content unmarked). Nowhere (on Steam or GOG) is there any mention of
one-hundred-thirty-nine sex scenes, that most content is a combination of extortion, humiliation, prostitution, and rape, or that a certain character is typically abused by followers and rapey drunkards, sometimes raped by the monsters. Mind you, these aren't my words (hence the italics), but those of a reviewer. Won't post the link here, but you can look it up if you're curious.
Fallen Makina and the City of Ruins, another title published by Kagura Games, will NOT slip through the Steam filters. Leanna's Slice of Life will though (blurred image but still available for purchase). So then, I can't help but wonder why the inconsistency? Is there more than meets the eye behind such decisions?
If the developers, publishers and sellers are comfortable with their products, how come they are not being straightforward?
With that in mind, how is GOG going to implement filters? How will they determine what is sexual content and what is adult only sexual content?
And lastly, if GOG is to introduce tags, will it be a detailed or basic system? Because there's also a discussion here.
Steam splits Mature content like this:
General Mature Content
____Frequent Violence and Gore
____Nudity and Sexual Content
________Adult Only Sexual Content
Unselecting Nudity and Sexual will automatically unselect and hide AO Sexual Content, as the latter is dependent on the former (check attachment 1).
You need them all marked if you want to see everything the store has to offer (see attachment 2).
For testing purposes, I unchecked Nudity and Sexual Content, went to search for "Witcher 3" and got this:
60 results match your search. 32 titles (including The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt) have been excluded based on your preferences.
One would think filters work, at least partly, right? Well...
With the same settings, I then searched for Detective Girl of the Steam City. To my surprise, it came up just fine. Next thing I did was untick General Mature Content and, lo and behold, 1 exact match, censored based on your preferences. The game was still there, available for purchase, but its image blurred. When I tapped (I'm on mobile now) on it, I got this notification:
THIS GAME CONTAINS CONTENT YOU HAVE ASKED NOT TO SEE
General Mature Content
The developers describe the content like this:
“Detective Girl of the Steam City contains strong language.”
I would argue that is misleading by omission.
According to Steam, The Witcher 2 contains Adult Only Sexual Content and it will be removed from searches, but not Detective Girl of the Steam City (see attachments 3 and 4).
How about a more recent release that also made its way to GOG? Game in question is Ambrosia and it will appear in search results (with Nudity and Sexual Content unmarked). Nowhere (on Steam or GOG) is there any mention of
one-hundred-thirty-nine sex scenes, that most content is a combination of extortion, humiliation, prostitution, and rape, or that a certain character is typically abused by followers and rapey drunkards, sometimes raped by the monsters. Mind you, these aren't my words (hence the italics), but those of a reviewer. Won't post the link here, but you can look it up if you're curious.
Fallen Makina and the City of Ruins, another title published by Kagura Games, will NOT slip through the Steam filters. Leanna's Slice of Life will though (blurred image but still available for purchase). So then, I can't help but wonder why the inconsistency? Is there more than meets the eye behind such decisions?
If the developers, publishers and sellers are comfortable with their products, how come they are not being straightforward?
With that in mind, how is GOG going to implement filters? How will they determine what is sexual content and what is adult only sexual content?
And lastly, if GOG is to introduce tags, will it be a detailed or basic system? Because there's also a discussion here.
Post edited February 10, 2022 by patrikc
patrikc
Get lost back to Vienna!
Registered: Dec 2013
From Other
Posted February 10, 2022
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/mark_games_that_contain_rape_porn
Please vote if you agree.
Post edited February 10, 2022 by patrikc
paladin181
Cheese
Registered: Nov 2012
From United States
Posted February 10, 2022
This is good information. I'd definitely want a filter here to work much better than the process you described.
Post edited February 10, 2022 by paladin181
LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
Registered: Dec 2013
From Russian Federation
Posted February 10, 2022
My guess is that devs are simply greedy and present censored versions of their games for evaluation. Can anyone confirm if sex scenes are present or not without patch?
Post edited February 10, 2022 by LootHunter
WinterSnowfall
Bastard Lunatic
Registered: Apr 2012
From Romania
Posted February 10, 2022
Thanks for the laughs :P. I swear this is how these kind of threads look like to me...
patrikc
Get lost back to Vienna!
Registered: Dec 2013
From Other
Posted February 10, 2022
As posted by _Auster_ :The patch comes as a DLC for the game already
LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
Registered: Dec 2013
From Russian Federation
Posted February 10, 2022
As posted by _Auster_ :The patch comes as a DLC for the game already
TheGrimLord
New User
Registered: Dec 2014
From United States
Posted February 10, 2022
Steam splits Mature content like this:
General Mature Content
____Frequent Violence and Gore
____Nudity and Sexual Content
________Adult Only Sexual Content
Unselecting Nudity and Sexual will automatically unselect and hide AO Sexual Content, as the latter is dependent on the former (check attachment 1).
You need them all marked if you want to see everything the store has to offer (see attachment 2).
For testing purposes, I unchecked Nudity and Sexual Content, went to search for "Witcher 3" and got this:
60 results match your search. 32 titles (including The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt) have been excluded based on your preferences.
One would think filters work, at least partly, right? Well...
With the same settings, I then searched for Detective Girl of the Steam City. To my surprise, it came up just fine. Next thing I did was untick General Mature Content and, lo and behold, 1 exact match, censored based on your preferences. The game was still there, available for purchase, but its image blurred. When I tapped (I'm on mobile now) on it, I got this notification:
THIS GAME CONTAINS CONTENT YOU HAVE ASKED NOT TO SEE
General Mature Content
The developers describe the content like this:
“Detective Girl of the Steam City contains strong language.”
I would argue that is misleading by omission.
According to Steam, The Witcher 2 contains Adult Only Sexual Content and it will be removed from searches, but not Detective Girl of the Steam City (see attachments 3 and 4).
How about a more recent release that also made its way to GOG? Game in question is Ambrosia and it will appear in search results (with Nudity and Sexual Content unmarked). Nowhere (on Steam or GOG) is there any mention of
one-hundred-thirty-nine sex scenes, that most content is a combination of extortion, humiliation, prostitution, and rape, or that a certain character is typically abused by followers and rapey drunkards, sometimes raped by the monsters. Mind you, these aren't my words (hence the italics), but those of a reviewer. Won't post the link here, but you can look it up if you're curious.
Fallen Makina and the City of Ruins, another title published by Kagura Games, will NOT slip through the Steam filters. Leanna's Slice of Life will though (blurred image but still available for purchase). So then, I can't help but wonder why the inconsistency? Is there more than meets the eye behind such decisions?
If the developers, publishers and sellers are comfortable with their products, how come they are not being straightforward?
With that in mind, how is GOG going to implement filters? How will they determine what is sexual content and what is adult only sexual content?
And lastly, if GOG is to introduce tags, will it be a detailed or basic system? Because there's also a discussion here.
In action/platformer ryona type games, the monsters ALWAYS rape the protagonist if caught (like a tentacle roper monster) or upon defeat. I can't believe you didn't know this. It's literally H-Game 101. Hide your kids, hide your wife, because there is a whole lot of raping going on. Lol.
I just can't believe how stupid some people are. Google it, look at the front page of DLSite.com and you'll see what I mean. Monster Rape is the name of the game. I guess a lot of Japanese have monster rape fetishes because that's every 9/10 games on the platform. 9/10 Kagura games feature monster rape and 9/10 non-Kagura H-Games feature monster rape.
And I have made the argument that monster rape is actually more common and believable because they are monsters. No one wants to admit it, but demons from hell might just want to have their way with you. Demons from hell do not ask for consent. They sodomize you while tearing your face apart. It makes absolute perfect sense. Do you really think a horny goblin or an orc is going to consent? Have you seen the way they've been portrayed in fantasy? As far as I'm concerned, the Japanese got it right - these monsters would in any logical sense take advantage of and/or kill any wandering adventurers. They have no rules or laws, very much hunting around in violent packs, like the tribes of old who did a lot of killing and raping of other tribes.
But don't let logic get in the way of your puritanism.
Orkhepaj
SuperStraight Win10 Groomer Smasher
Registered: Apr 2012
From Hungary
Posted February 10, 2022
low rated
this split the cooomer material into free dlc-s is nothing more than an attempt to trick the system
CatGog2017
New User
Registered: Jun 2017
From United States
Posted February 10, 2022
I'm confused by this desire to prevent others from seeing something that other people don't want to see, assuming that's your point.
No one cares if you like my little pony or whatever it is you like, why should someone ELSE care about what I might like?
Don't go looking for trouble, focus on the man/woman/unicorn in the mirror.
Post edited February 10, 2022 by CatGog2017
Orkhepaj
SuperStraight Win10 Groomer Smasher
Registered: Apr 2012
From Hungary
Posted February 10, 2022
low rated
I'm confused by this desire to prevent others from seeing something that other people don't want to see, assuming that's your point.
No one cares if you like my little pony or whatever it is you like, why should someone ELSE care about what I might like?
Don't go looking for trouble, focus on the man/woman/unicorn in the mirror.
probably 0
to prove my point , just look at the Release: Lust from Beyond: M Edition topic
they are clearly raging cause the game doesnt have the unlocker dlc, and the reviewers gave 1 star , while the info clearly says this is tastefully tailored
Post edited February 10, 2022 by Orkhepaj
octalot
New User
Registered: Dec 2019
From Austria
Posted February 10, 2022
You quoted two of my points, but only answered the other one. What's your solution to someone who's familiar with the filtered website giving a word-of-mouth recommendation to a friend without realising what's shown with default filter settings?
TheGrimLord
New User
Registered: Dec 2014
From United States
Posted February 10, 2022
Tbh, you are right because MangaGamer does it. Trust me if you go to MangaGamer right now, you will see only all-ages titles there is a button to the right that says "access the adult section." Then you have to put in your DOB. After that, you can see all the explicit stuff they have to offer.
Contrasting this, Groupees had a lot of adult content on their site last year. They actually did well on a few of the bundles, making thousands in the process. But it wasn't enough and the guy who handled that material was let go and emailed me asking if I knew any positions in the eroge industry that would hire him. Unfortunately, I didn't.
In any case, Groupees just let things be and for the most part only two or three people ever complained in the chat. Unlike GOG though, you could actually see the sales. So as much rapey and over the top as some of the content was, it was still selling. And Groupees just ignored the complainers. To be fair though, Groupees had worked with both MangaGamer and Jast in the past, so this wasn't some new thing. It was just not generating as much revenue because of other bundle sites like Indiegala and the Humble Bundle.
Contrasting this, Groupees had a lot of adult content on their site last year. They actually did well on a few of the bundles, making thousands in the process. But it wasn't enough and the guy who handled that material was let go and emailed me asking if I knew any positions in the eroge industry that would hire him. Unfortunately, I didn't.
In any case, Groupees just let things be and for the most part only two or three people ever complained in the chat. Unlike GOG though, you could actually see the sales. So as much rapey and over the top as some of the content was, it was still selling. And Groupees just ignored the complainers. To be fair though, Groupees had worked with both MangaGamer and Jast in the past, so this wasn't some new thing. It was just not generating as much revenue because of other bundle sites like Indiegala and the Humble Bundle.