Posted May 31, 2017
RWarehall: I've explained myself. I've explained specifically how unlikely I find it that scum, not being totally sure a PM was sent, can follow through based on that to talk about Drealmer. I believe that the insight about Drealmer can only realistically come from someone who received said PM and thought, "I bet Drealmer didn't got one of these".
It's one thing to second-guess after the fact that its an easy conclusion to make. I know I didn't think about it and I made nothing out of my lack of a PM.
You're right, it is easy to second guess it. Maybe he's actually legit, but I'm not willing to write him off as solid town based on just this observation, and I've explained why. It's one thing to second-guess after the fact that its an easy conclusion to make. I know I didn't think about it and I made nothing out of my lack of a PM.
RWarehall: Why would scum risk themselves on such a hunch? Specifically when...
1) One is not currently pressed to be lynched...
2) One cannot be absolutely sure PRs were sent such a PM.
1) So he has something that looks like he is contributing to the game. He's under some suspicion, from me at least, for floating. 1) One is not currently pressed to be lynched...
2) One cannot be absolutely sure PRs were sent such a PM.
2) Unless he's a scum PR; maybe some kind of ninja or janitor? Even if he is vanilla scum, scum do have to take some risks, and this is a small one. He's made an observation that currently isn't verifiable, and he hasn't offered much of anything else to show he's town.
RWarehall: I have to wonder why you are so hellbent on JMich. ... I also don't see why you are so insistent that JMich needs to provide us anything more.
Multiple reasons, chief among them I'm trying to get JMich to be more active in the game. I'm not going to call him town for a single observation about a dead player. Can a stronger case be made that JMich is town than "claims to have gotten a PM at the start of N1"? I've asked this question of you more than once. For that matter, its an open question that anyone can answer. Such a case doesn't even have to deal with PMs.
Who would I be trying to cover for? Cristi and Sage have basically zero pressure being applied. I'm actively fighting with you, I've already been on Gamma's case, and of course I'm not going to advocate lynching myself. Everyone else is dead.
RWarehall: As to whether we are at MyLo or not, given the likelihood of 2 scum and I know my own alignment and I'm town, with flips and random chance, Drealmer is scum 2 out of 6 Or in other words, 2/3rds chance that we are indeed at MyLo. I don't like discounting majority odds.
This is fair, and I'm fine with this. I'm currently assuming worst case (workable) scenario as well. Bookwyrm627: You can't be certain that those with a PR did get a PM about taking their night action.
Sage103082: They do. I have been keeping quiet because the only information I gained from the night action I took was that scum have the ability to hide their actions. I feel that right now all we are doing is fighting with each other and not working together. I am hoping that this information can be used to help us move forward and work together.
Also, Sage, who (besides me) do you think is scum?