Posted May 22, 2017
Bookwyrm627: Lets take a look at your actual statement (with the stated word correction. Bold in mine)
When I read this, it looks to me like you're saying that I'm pointing at another role but I'm not claiming that role. I'll concede that my statement could be read as my pointing at the possibility of Cultist being a role in the game. My question is this: under what circumstances would I ever claim to be a Cultist on Day 1 during RVS?
Sage103082: Bold where I said you claimed to be a cultist. I never did. I pointed out you mention the role but had not claimed it. Which is exactly what you concede to above. When I read this, it looks to me like you're saying that I'm pointing at another role but I'm not claiming that role. I'll concede that my statement could be read as my pointing at the possibility of Cultist being a role in the game. My question is this: under what circumstances would I ever claim to be a Cultist on Day 1 during RVS?
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Sage, please read my post again. Especially the bolded part. I specifically said "you're saying that I'm pointing at another role but I'm not claiming that role". I didn't say anything like "Sage says I'm claiming to be cultist".
The implication from "Pointing to another role though no[t] claiming it yet" is that I might try to claim whatever role I'm pointing to. Maybe its just me, but the idea of me claiming cultist on Day 1 seems to require laughably absurd shenanigans, so I didn't consider that the role you might be referring to was 'cultist'. Thus my question about which role you thought I was referencing; I genuinely didn't know what role you would be driving at, because the only ones that spring to mind seem absurd to be in the setup in the first place.
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If that doesn't actually translate to "Bitch, I might be!", then I have no idea what I just said.
cristigale: @Bookwyrm - Help me out here on the Leeroy Jenkins thing. He's an RPG character who goes charging into a battle...right? In your early posts, it reminded me of a red-neck sheriff (like Jackie Gleason's character in Smokey in the Bandit). Is that part of Leeroy Jenkins as well?
Was your vote on drealmer serious? If so, I concur with Gamma, that vote felt awkward.
Leeroy Jenkins is from a video of a WOW raid that goes horribly, horribly wrong because Leeroy just goes charging in and setting off all the monsters, quickly resulting in a TPK (total party kill). The connotation is somewhat analogous with "Hold my beer and watch this". Was your vote on drealmer serious? If so, I concur with Gamma, that vote felt awkward.
I have no idea what Smokey in the Bandit is, nor do I know who Jackie Gleason is. I assume they are not associated with Leeroy in any capacity. The accent was because it amused me.
You tell me. Do you think a vote for someone (within the first 40 posts) based on the votee saying "there are no donuts in the Zone" is a serious vote? Better question, can you say that vote is serious and still keep a straight face?
cristigale: Oooh...ooh...ooh....pick me,,,,pick me (waves arm for attention)
On second thought, it's a smart-ass answer. (puts arm down)
I can appreciate a good smart-ass answer. And I'm pretty certain those are the only possible answers that aren't massively contrived. On second thought, it's a smart-ass answer. (puts arm down)
cristigale: But seriously, Bookwyrm, you seem to be baiting players with the Cult references. Which is fine to see who bites and how. But in this case, the conclusions you are drawing do not add up.
cristigale: This doesn't feel like town poking and prodding, it seems forced which feels scummy,
Vote Bookwyrm
You know what feels forced? Voting for someone because that person placed an RVS vote based on a statement about flavor. You know what this reminds me of? This post. Specifically "However, scum-me on this day, would have found a reason earlier to suspect someone" cristigale: This doesn't feel like town poking and prodding, it seems forced which feels scummy,
Vote Bookwyrm
Unvote Drealmer.
Vote Cristigale.
If I hadn't added the surety of specifically unvoting Drealmer, would the generic unvote have removed my vote. It was in a question to the mod, but it was bolded. I didn't know, so I removed any room for doubt about my vote placement by making sure to do it in an acceptable way.
In any event, I've placed my first serious vote of the Day.
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Lets nip this cultist boop in the bud.
If you think there might possibly be a cult in play, then I want you to take a quick look at the game setup. There are 9 players, a confirmed Clear Sky faction, and a confirmed Monolith faction. The question of third parties is left open.
Now for a bit of abductive(?) reasoning. Lets pretend there is a cult in addition to the Clear Sky and Monolith factions. This means that at least 2 players are confirmed non-town (1 for each non-town faction, so the faction can exist). The mafia likely has more than one player, or they are just an SK (theoretically possible). The cult almost certainly doesn't have more than one player, or the game ends way too fast and town never had a chance. Town's boop is booped in the boop if there are already three hostile players with a chance to convert new players to hostile; if a townie gets lynched D1 in this environment, then they've basically already lost parity with the non-town factions (mafia NK and/or cult conversion occurring over night). Think about that for a moment, that town has to lynch right from Day 1 to be able to maintain their primary advantage.
About the only possible argument you could make for a cult existing is if the Monolith faction is that cult, which means there is no mafia faction and we can (probably) win this thing right the boop now if we lynch right. There might not even be any neutrals in this scenario.
You want to know why I said 'cultist'? A few reasons:
1) The Monolith sounds like a quasi-religious group that is enthrall to a specific person/thing/idea.
Google spits out a few definitions of a "Cult":
-a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
-a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
-a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.
Which definition do you think applies to the Monolith faction? You can even pick more than one!
2) It goes with the Warhammer 40k lore that this flavor reminded me of. There are loyalist space marines and traitor (chaos) space marines. Cultists are part of the traitor legions and general forces of Chaos.
3) Fitting (1) and (2) together yields "chaos loving cultist receiving whispers from the monolith"
4) It amused me to do so.
5) Old Man Henderson is awesome.