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@Wyrm I believe I townread you for the level of depth your posts have
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GammaEmerald: VLA until Thursday
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You're eating nothing but vla until Thursday? Wow. ... Or what does VLA mean in your case?

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Official Vote Count

Sage: 1 - Gamma
JMich: 1 - Bookwyrm
Bookwyrm: 1 - JMich
Gamma: 1 - Sage
cristigale: 1 - RWare


Everyone but RWarehall is at L-3
not voting: cristigale
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Post edited May 30, 2017 by Lifthrasil
FYI: GOG site is malfunctioning pretty badly for me right now.

Game related:
Looking at JMich's latest post, he's managed to say that everyone currently alive, except him, "should bear a bit more scrutiny". He lists the people on the wagon, and indicates that he thinks Drealmer was vanilla.

This amount of uselessness makes me wonder if he's actively trying to get killed. I'm honestly impressed, here. And baffled.
The site is bad here too. While normally I wouldn't think asking about roles is a good idea, but given that we are possibly at MyLo and the curious wording of JMich and his post...

Let me ask a few questions...

1) JMich, why do you think Drealmer had to be Vanilla? It seems you are claiming to have had a role yesterday along with Trent's and think 2 is enough in this setup. No need to answer what the status of that role is today, I'd prefer you do not, but if you have information from last night, it's time to spill it. Or are you claiming to otherwise have information the rest of us do not possess?

2) What makes you so sure Drealmer would be Vanilla if he was scum? That seems rather odd. I don't see how that can follow unless you know that to be a fact because you were his teammate.
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RWarehall: 1) JMich, why do you think Drealmer had to be Vanilla?
I got a PM asking me about my night action, should I choose to take one. I assume everyone with a role got one, and if you had a chat message from the mod, you would be informed that night had started. Considering drealmer posted 8 hours after nightfall, I don't think he got one.
I wouldn't know if scum got such a message or if they only got a note on their QT thread, nor would I know if scum roles (should there be any) get an additional PM.
And I don't think there were only 2 town roles, since we could be easily rendered powerless by the beginning of D2.
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Bookwyrm627: FYI: GOG site is malfunctioning pretty badly for me right now.

Game related:
Looking at JMich's latest post, he's managed to say that everyone currently alive, except him, "should bear a bit more scrutiny". He lists the people on the wagon, and indicates that he thinks Drealmer was vanilla.

This amount of uselessness makes me wonder if he's actively trying to get killed. I'm honestly impressed, here. And baffled.
I have noticed this too and It really makes me wonder about Jmich

For right now I am more then willing to let up my pressure on Gamma. We need to work together as a team in order to win this. If we do not work together to figure this out and get it right we may not have another chance.


Unvote Gamma


I would like to see what Jmich has to say in response to RW. I do have some fear that it may back fire and hurt us as it would also be giving information to scum. It is a very double edge but we are at a MyLo point and need to be sure before we move forward so we do not make any mistakes.
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RWarehall: 1) JMich, why do you think Drealmer had to be Vanilla?
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JMich: I got a PM asking me about my night action, should I choose to take one. I assume everyone with a role got one, and if you had a chat message from the mod, you would be informed that night had started. Considering drealmer posted 8 hours after nightfall, I don't think he got one.
I wouldn't know if scum got such a message or if they only got a note on their QT thread, nor would I know if scum roles (should there be any) get an additional PM.
And I don't think there were only 2 town roles, since we could be easily rendered powerless by the beginning of D2.
You know, I've just been watching you, and I really don't think you're being close lipped enough. You give away far, far too many details and just lay everything out without being questioned.

Alright, got that out of my system. Are you going to claim now, or do we just hope whatever you thought about doing is already complete after we pull the truth from your skull?
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Sage103082: It is a very double edge but we are at a MyLo point and need to be sure before we move forward so we do not make any mistakes.
Which means that verifying someone as town would really help. Giving extra info to scum is irrelevant if we do mislynch today.

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Bookwyrm627: Are you going to claim now, or do we just hope whatever you thought about doing is already complete after we pull the truth from your skull?
You really wish me to claim at L-3? How would me claiming being a loyal member of the Clear Sky Initiative help us with anything? Or is it that you're curious about my name, for whatever reason?
Unless of course you want me to claim for saying I was asked about my night action, if any, and you want to know if I am a power role that you should worry about. Which one is it I wonder?
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JMich: You really wish me to claim at L-3? How would me claiming being a loyal member of the Clear Sky Initiative help us with anything? Or is it that you're curious about my name, for whatever reason?
Unless of course you want me to claim for saying I was asked about my night action, if any, and you want to know if I am a power role that you should worry about. Which one is it I wonder?
You already claimed to have a power role on D1. Assuming that the mechanics are the same from last game, this means you no longer have whatever role you started with. I didn't ask whether you currently have a role, I asked what you had Day 1 and Ба! Зона проклятая! Рожденный лоялист, я умираю как лоялист.hat re

...my iPad is possessed. What did it auto-correct to Russian...? And I typed "why", not "what".

Never mind. Your PR was clearly "Screw with the devices of other players". Based on your behavior all game, you obviously target d me. x.x

Anyway. I asked what results you got from your role Day 1, not whether you have anything now. I think you're trying to pre-empt any attempt to lunch you. Therefore, lets lynch you. I don't think a Jester type role was included in this game.
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GammaEmerald: VLA until Thursday
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Lifthrasil: You're eating nothing but vla until Thursday? Wow. ... Or what does VLA mean in your case?

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Official Vote Count

Sage: 1 - Gamma
JMich: 1 - Bookwyrm
Bookwyrm: 1 - JMich
Gamma: 1 - Sage
cristigale: 1 - RWare


Everyone but RWarehall is at L-3
not voting: cristigale
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It means reduced or no posting until a point.
Wyrm where did JMich claim PR?
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GammaEmerald: Wyrm where did JMich claim PR?
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Bookwyrm, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. JMich's explanation makes sense. I didn't think there was a way he could properly answer my question to him. I was wrong. I don't think that is absolute proof Drealmer didn't have a role given GoG's sometimes questionable notification system, but he's likely correct. It's a little shady abusing PMs info like that, but that certainly doesn't make him in-game scummy.
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RWarehall: Bookwyrm, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. JMich's explanation makes sense. I didn't think there was a way he could properly answer my question to him. I was wrong. I don't think that is absolute proof Drealmer didn't have a role given GoG's sometimes questionable notification system, but he's likely correct. It's a little shady abusing PMs info like that, but that certainly doesn't make him in-game scummy.
So we let "I had a power on N1 and we're possibly in Mylo, but I'm not going to share what I may have learned or deduced from it and I'm not going to actually be helpful in any other fashion either" slide?

Did I miss anything?
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Bookwyrm627: So we let "I had a power on N1 and we're possibly in Mylo, but I'm not going to share what I may have learned or deduced from it and I'm not going to actually be helpful in any other fashion either" slide?

Did I miss anything?
Do you want him to reveal if it's not useful information? Do you want him to reveal if what he has to say isn't useful to us, but might help scum? If he made up that claim through educated guesses and is actually scum, fantastic. I'd be happy to lose to that. But logic to me, says he is town because the events as described fit my knowledge base and no one seems to be counter-claiming the reception of a PM when he claims to his been sent it. I cannot contradict his claim. We know JMich is a solid player. As such, I'm fine with him dispensing the information in his own fashion. He's not dumb, he'll reveal it if he feels its useful to town, just as he presumably felt revealing that part of it was necessary to clear him.
Hey, all. Expected to be here before now. Will catch up later in the morning.