dick1982: ok. anyone noticed that the website is down? did EU ban it or did my ISP do that?

GOG.com: DRM-free {…} has been at the heart of GOG.COM from day one. We strongly believe that {…} has changed since 2008, and today many people don’t realize what DRM even means. And still the DRM issue in games remains – you’re never sure when and why you {…} are affected {…} as well. To help understand {…} how it influences {…} media {…} approach, we’re launching the FCK DRM initiative. The goal is to educate people and {…} visit https://fckdrm.com, and share your opinions and stories {…} and {…} you.

OneFiercePuppy: {…} Your contact email for this is I want to fck DRM. That's some Silent Horses playing, Buffalo Bill tier creepy obsession.

PixelBoy: {…} I find it amusing that a site basically promoting GOG only doesn't even consider worth mentioning the once-hyped movie section of GOG.

timmy010: don't like the name. didn't expect that from a proper store front. have some self respect.

MIK0: {…} The multiplayer part of Galaxy should be open and usable by customers without the needs of galaxy or a server behind it (it should be configurable). That way it could also be used in other version of the game and allow crossplay. If a game rely on Galaxy for the multiplayer part it has the same limitation of having drm.

madammina: GOG I appreciate the pitch and I agree on no DRM. But between the literal name of the promo and how you are acting on twitter I'm getting a little uncomfortable if you are telling us everything. If you are who you say you are and what you want.

Zegnat: So I assume GOG has been sitting on this website since June already? Remember that the EFF launched a new logo in July, hahaha! {…}

Koitenshin: {…} If it looks more professional and less like something a 13 year old kid would make, you could start an entire revolution.

Dreadz: GOG going into political activism soon?

squid830: You seem to have quite an opinion on a suggestive-sounding name (which if you'd actually notice, is not actually, technically speaking, crass at all) for someone who has the grammatical capabilities of a dung beetle coming down from crack with a few tokes on the bong too many. Probably also drunk.

Even then I'd probably find it much easier to understand the beetle, as it most probably has a consistent language - which could in theory be incorporated into Google translate (this isn't likely, since drunken cracked-out weed smoking dung beetle to English translation hasn't ever been suggested as something worth striving for, let alone suggest as an option); the closest I came to attempting to understand your "language" (such as it is) was by studying how teenagers communicate on social media while drunk and/or stoned when using their mobile phone with only one hand.

Which also explains why you don't get it. Though to be fair, the beetle would probably have problems too at this point, what with the downers to counter the coming down from the uppers and all.

If I understand you correctly (and I apologise if I do not - but as described above that's not exactly unexpected) - you don't appear to appreciate how evil DRM actually is, by saying something to the effect of "well some games have it, so yeah I'll use it when forced to and I'm fine with that".

THAT is the problem - and the purpose of the website is to raise awareness among users of what it is, what it can do, and how it can totally FCK u UP. Because DRM can FCK u UP, u ND 2 tel DRM 2 FCK OFF. So FCK DRM.

Hope that makes things clearer. Though hopefully you've visited the website and now realise how evil it is. Every time you buy a game with DRM, you are basically saying that it's OK for someone to come over to your house and steal your car seat covers because they're kind of embarrassing and the company that made them is really sorry they exist and wants to cover up all evidence of their shocking design. Or wants to digitally replace Jabba the Hutt with a shaved walrus due to NASA coming into contact with aliens that kind of look a bit like the Hutts and we don't want to offend them lest they destroy our planet.

Do YOU really want someone to have the power to digitally replace a fictional character in a game or movie you like just because not doing so is believed by the powers that be that it could lead to the destruction of our entire species? After you've bought something, don't YOU have the right to watch it the way it was originally intended, without political interference? Wouldn't you rather doom the entire species than have something that YOU bought and paid for is altered to be slightly different just to appease minority interests? Who are these ALIENS to tell US what to do on OUR OWN PLANET?

Freedom or death. FCK DRM.

smrtgi19: {…} the email address is iwantto@fckdrm.com, well all righty then I imagine people can get around drm by fcking it

HunchBluntley: Fondle, Caress & Kiss, of course.

Kanashe: GoG doesn't trust you, they don't give a fuck about you or anyone here. All they care is a simple fact of "Hey, how can we scam these suckers for money while acting like we give a flying fuck for 'em?" The answer is simple, keep on hammering how they're against DRM and all that "consumer friendly" or "gamers are important" bullshit. {…} Also, quality level of service? That's an effing joke, since some games they have here are either an unpatched mess, overpriced more than on Steam and many other things. Hell, their costumer support is twice the joke and makes Steams seem twice if not four times better.

Icinix: {…} Fight Content Kill-switches is kind of cool.

zgrillo2004: Many thanks GOG for taking a stand against these corrupted companies that are under the guise of helping the consumer. These companies have gone too far and they are getting greedier each year.

Cavalary: PS: Contacted Fireflower and Zoom to ask if they'd be interested to get listed. Would also be a test for GOG, to see whether they would list them if so.

MIK0: They clearly are not serious about it, their history speak for itself. This is just another clumsy pr stunt.

Teppic: Is this really called fuck DRM? Is GOG run by 12 year olds?

Cavalary: A follow up, since I mentioned sending messages to Fireflower and Zoom Platform about being included on the list on the site, just got this from Zoom:

"Thanks for sharing! While we very much appreciate you thinking of us, we have other more serious issues with GOG, besides simple competition. Therefore, I’m afraid we must decline. Thank you again though for the thought."

So they won't be listed because they specifically don't want to be associated with GOG, not because GOG skipped over them. Wondering what those issues are now though. {…}

darthspudius: {…} Of all names, they had to pick something to immature and one that makes them look remarkably unprofessional. It kind of makes me sad as a customer to know I supported these idiots. {…}

Cavalary: {…} PS: Another follow up, Fireflower replied as well, they had actually tried using that listed e-mail address to get listed right away but the e-mail bounced, will try again. So hey GOG, when you ask for entries, make sure you can actually receive them!

Trilarion: Sorry if I don't subscribe to this, but it's a bit too vulgar for my taste and also I don't believe in GOG anymore. They did too much for pure marketing reasons lately and most of the changes were for the worst.

Regional prices, Galaxy bundled installers, publicly leaking private information of users. I don't think they can really be trusted anymore. This whole thing, apart from being a bit vulgar, looks like a marketing scam to me, much ado about nothing. There is hardly any information present and it's quite unclear what the goal really is, probably just some quick clicks.Trilarion: I think this summarizes it really very well.

DeadjackFr: {…} Yes it's vulgar. I'm disapointed by this kind of methods. Social medias, Youtube and ect... relies too much on this.

Seriously if DRM free is right just polish it like the jewel it should be, otherwise don't promote it this way... because it sounds like a desperate attempt to bring audience on GOG.

And by audience I mean the wrong one...

Instead of FCKDRM, WHY DRM FREE would have been way better. {…}

Seriously you can do better than that. {…}

Cavalary: {…} Yeah, still waiting for FF too, since they said they tried using that listed e-mail and it bounced, will try again and if still no luck contact support.

wh04m11: okay, this is epic

Cavalary: Back on topic, still waiting for Fireflower Games to be there. And any sort of blue reaction to the discussion really. And to the fact that the e-mail address listed apparently didn't work when FF first tried to send a message (no idea whether it was fixed since).

MIK0: {…} I don't expect much follow up on this. It's not like that page means something or have some kind of utility. {…} Tipical half-baked attempt by GOG.

MartiusR: I really like the idea of initiative, but... If it's considered as something which would like to have more official supporters (from side of companies, developers etc.) I kinda doubt that the current name is the most fortunate one.

It's partially marketing stuff, but still - you need to be "cool and dandy" in those things. {…}

mechmouse: The movement seems to be loosing Steam (pun intended) and It's not had the coverage I'd hoped for.

I think we need to have some more focused action

GoG streamers should ask their followers to reply to as many social media posts from Publishers/Devs with the fckdrm hashtag and domain as they can.

Every publicity post from Square-ENIX, Team17, 2K, and so on needs a GoGlodyte to reply with FCKDRM. {…}

Anothername: What a sad try. I see nothing out of it. They don't even bother adding that fire flower shop. I do understand they and Zoom freak each other out with Zoom having some (ex?) industry giants behind it; but that fire flower is not added yet comes of a bit petty. "Thou shalt have no other DRM free gaming before me" much? Defeats the "together forever" purpose against DRM.

Besides no talk from staff about that at all. Such an initiative invites to have dialogue about it, talks about that. People obviously would love to hear some more details beyond a simple "here it is, suck it up or gtfo" behind choice of the strong wording of that campaign. {…}

Anothername: Sorry for the late reply; for some reason there are no notifications anymore on this thread; also it does not get moved upwards by posting into it. Could it be that gog wants to bury & forget this ever happened? oO

Thats the competition in question:

https://www.zoom-platform.com/

http://fireflowergames.com/

According to a few pages back Zoom has problems with GoG and does not want to participate and Fire Flower asked to be in but does not get to for some reason. {…}

Cavalary: Zoom really does, from the couple of messages exchanged with them. Also, flat pricing. And their primary goal is making older games that no longer run well on modern OSs work again. So yep, pretty much just like GOG started out. {…}

Klumpen0815: I asked them to add Zoom Platform and Fireflower Games on principle via eMail when this thing appeared, not expecting much.
They weren't added of course.

This is just an dishonest promo campaign probably decided on in some shareholder's meeting.
Although GOG clearly has its merits and is still my primary store, the other two stores are actually more DRM-free than GOG since GOG has implemented DRM into many multi-player games via Galaxy since it checks accounts and ownership so that you can't play those games in MP with your siblings without buying another copy for the same household for example.

Eitherway, making such a site and then making it look like GOG is the only DRM-free gaming store out there is just outright lying.
Yet another disappointment.

Jeffry84: If someone's interested the 18th September will be the International Day Against DRM:
https://www.defectivebydesign.org/dayagainstdrm?pk_campaign=idad2018

Cavalary: Also if anyone's interested, asked if there was any update from Fireflower, just got "It didn't bounce this time but they haven't replied."

SCPM: In case folks are wondering what ^ is about:
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/denuvo-5-2-anti-tamper-tech-used-in-newer-games-has-already-been-cracked/
A new scene group has cracked the latest version of Denuvo on Football Manager 2019 and The Quiet Man. This group happens to be calling itself FCKDRM.

SCPM: In case folks are wondering what ^ is about:
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/denuvo-5-2-anti-tamper-tech-used-in-newer-games-has-already-been-cracked/
A new scene group has cracked the latest version of Denuvo on Football Manager 2019 and The Quiet Man. This group happens to be calling itself FCKDRM.

Enebias: Well, if you want to do damage craking them early is the best way.

Pheace: So it's not about game preservation then, it's about a resistance to DRM because... issues?

Pheace: So it's not about game preservation then, it's about a resistance to DRM because... issues?

Pheace: They could've gone for the games that have gone longest uncracked

Crosmando: Like what, Handball?