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General discussionGOG Mafia #67 - Mamlakat al Shams(1419 posts)(1419 posts)
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This is my favourite topic
Posted June 20, 2020
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SirMrFailRomp: Lynch me if you really can't stand waiting until I have a chance to get going, or give me an actual chance to warm up. I'm not going to start pulling stuff out of thin air on D1 just because "I should have something".thing.
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gogtrial34987: The thing with this attitude - which is not very helpful, but is fine for an ATE - is that it seems somewhat hard to put it in the same narrative with responses like:
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SirMrFailRomp: Ask specific questions please, I don't know which opinions I haven't given sufficient explanation for.
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gogtrial34987: and
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SirMrFailRomp: I feel like it was at least explained enough.
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gogtrial34987:
I'm not sure I follow, however this might be my own fault as I may have been drinking alcohol between then and now.

My question to Flockeschnee was simply that I wasn't sure which opinions I had given that weren't explained enough.

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gogtrial34987: Also, the one time you were actually putting up something of an argument was here:
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SirMrFailRomp: Sure, but the choice to not read the PM is inherently NAI so it essentially leaves his odds of being scum at the base probability from the dice rolls used to distribute the roles. Of course he could be scum, but I don't see it as any more likely than anyone else being scum at this point.
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gogtrial34987: Which to me feels pretty defensive of Carradice - and yet now he's your prime suspect (even if "not a strong case").
That's exactly the point! I'm not really convinced we should lynch Carradice for PMgate, he's just my prime suspect by process of elimination.

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FlockeSchnee: You must have thought something when you made the following two posts, so please elaborate?

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SirMrFailRomp: The avatar shenanigans are irrelevant but the fact that some people thought they were important might not be, I buy trent's explanation re: voting for scene.
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FlockeSchnee:
This is helpful, this was before I was ill and I'd completely forgotten about it.

It seems like ages ago but Joe (and dedo to a lesser extent) did make quite a thing of the avatar changes even though Joe at least should be aware that the avatars take way too long to change for the to have done it at the start of the game. But really it just seems like Joe didn't think about it enough before posting rather than it being some kind of slip. I don't think Joe's mistake is AI, but his "general offness" might be.

Hmm, I really don't like this non-majority lynch thing because normally I'd be worried about the possibility of a no-lynch so I'd be going "Shit, better vote for someone!" and I'd commit to a wagon. But with this system there is no danger of an accidental no-lynch so I don't feel the same pressure to vote to make sure we avoid it. Normally in this situation I might vote for the leading wagon even if my heart wasn't in it, but it's not really needed for this one.
I'm rambling because I'm tipsy, sorry. Damn, I nearly lost this post while trying to copy it from notepad because I pressed Ctrl+V instead of Ctrl+C, but undo saved me. ヽ(*⌒▽⌒*)ﾉ
Posted June 20, 2020
Bump.
Posted June 20, 2020
HMM!

It may look like I messed the formatting up, but as far as I can see in notepad it's fine. The latter part of that post should have been:

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FlockeSchnee: You must have thought something when you made the following two posts, so please elaborate?

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SirMrFailRomp: The avatar shenanigans are irrelevant but the fact that some people thought they were important might not be, I buy trent's explanation re: voting for scene.
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FlockeSchnee:
This is helpful, this was before I was ill and I'd completely forgotten about it.

It seems like ages ago but Joe (and dedo to a lesser extent) did make quite a thing of the avatar changes even though Joe at least should be aware that the avatars take way too long to change for the to have done it at the start of the game. But really it just seems like Joe didn't think about it enough before posting rather than it being some kind of slip. I don't think Joe's mistake is AI, but his "general offness" might be.

Hmm, I really don't like this non-majority lynch thing because normally I'd be worried about the possibility of a no-lynch so I'd be going "Shit, better vote for someone!" and I'd commit to a wagon. But with this system there is no danger of an accidental no-lynch so I don't feel the same pressure to vote to make sure we avoid it. Normally in this situation I might vote for the leading wagon even if my heart wasn't in it, but it's not really needed for this one. I'm rambling because I'm tipsy, sorry.
Posted June 20, 2020
Oh screw you GOG forum software.
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Posted June 20, 2020
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SirPrimalform: Bump.
Clever girl!


Caught up now.

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Microfish_1: @Dedo I'm asking you to join me on ZFR for this exact reason: stubborn refusal to see what is as plain as day to you and me.
But ZFR did eventually agree and concede to that and backed off. Carradice's immediate attack for not having a vote placed was what triggered the re-vote. To be honest my initial impulse was to do exactly the same as it was the second if not third time when Carradice did or said something that they personally listed as not OK previously. Unlike ZFR I restrained myself but that was (and still is) the biggest gripe I have with them (PMGate is another one but it doesn't really count in terms of scum-hunting).

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Microfish_1: i saw Joe as extremely fishy due to his whole avatar fixation in RVS.
Considering I also touched on the avatars situation, did I not look at least somewhat fishy to you, too?
Posted June 20, 2020
I will be less engaged for the next few days, I got one of my Father's Day gifts today The Last of Us II and I will be playing it all weekend. I will still check in and keep up, but I apologize now if I am less available than normal. I have been waiting for this game for YEARS and it is now here and I am going to be playing it as much as I can :)

Still good with my vote, willing to move to Scene. If someone can make a stellar case for someone else I could be persuaded to move my vote, but will not vote dedo, gogtrial, or Joe.
Posted June 20, 2020
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SirPrimalform: Bump.
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dedoporno: Clever girl!
i no ryet
Posted June 20, 2020
It's 1:34AM, flavor can wait.

END OF PAGE 10 VOTE COUNT!

Carradice (3) - trentonlf, ZFR, Lifthrasil
SirMrFailRomp (2) - Flockeschnee, gogtrial
Microfish (2) - Vitek, supplementscene
Lifthrasil (1) - JoeSapphire
ZFR (1) - Microfish

Not voted: FlockeSchnee, yogsloth, Vitek, gogtrial, supplementscene, dedoporno, JoeSapphire, trentonlf
Not voting: yogsloth, SirMrFailRomp, dedoporno, Carradice

Carradice is closest to imprisonment, at L-4.
There are 13 players. It takes 7 votes to imprison.
Court Phase 1 ends on Saturday, 20th June, 7PM London Time + any overtimes. LESS THAN 24 HOURS LEFT!
Check to make sure your vote is against the correct person.
Posted June 20, 2020
Well, I don't feel confident about it, but Carradice is still my "least town".

Vote Carradice

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Pookina: Court Phase 1 ends on Saturday, 20th June, 7PM London Time + any overtimes.
Is that London time taking into account that London is currently UTC+1?
Posted June 20, 2020
Things aren't exactly great at least for me. I hear where SPF is coming from (regardless of whether what he says is true or not for himself) as I also don't really have a great deal of good reads to lean on. At best I have a couple of people who either have some small things that rub me the wrong way (like Carradice's immediate non-voting retaliation on ZFR), Joe's SOMGUS vote on me and Micro's fluctuating opinion of Joe. People like Scene and to a small extent Lift aren't more than unpleasant gut feelings (I admit it's quite possible one if not both of these are additionally boosted by some form of bias toward the player or their playstyle but one isn't really paranoid if he ends up being right so I'm not discarding them either). I don't like that SPF is a bit going with the flow and not producing too much drive-force but at the same time I'm not doing a whole lot myself so even though he is on my list I can't really vote him without feeling a bit of kettle-pot shame in the process.

The past day has brought up what appears to stand out the most - Micro's stance towards Joe and then ZFR. But mostly Joe is the interesting part there. It's strange that Micro suddenly expressed a strong conviction against Joe out of nowhere (allegedly that was there all along just not voiced).

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Microfish_1: If I could vote for two people, I would vote for ZFR & Joe, but as I am still convinced that Joe is scum, and Joe's wagon is actually leading atm, I shall not change my vote at present but I really really really want to!
Not too long after being question by others the Joe conviction suddenly disperses and turns out to be nothing more than an after-image something small that Micro didn't appreciate at the time - the avatars swap discussions.

I didn't wait for the response on my question in #485 as Micro appears to be away and I'll most likely be absent for the better part of tomorrow and went back to check his posts. I didn't find nor do I remember any instance where I made a similar impression as Joe even though I also took part in the avatars discussion. Sure, mine wasn't as direct as Joe's but it was related to the same topics.

This whole suspicion of Joe feels fabricated during the time more people were viewing him [Joe] as a viable wagon which later on dispersed once it had to be properly defended.

That's why I'm going to

vote Micro


PSA: I'll drop by in the morning before going out and some time around noon/early afternoon. It's very likely I won't be around for the actual deadline!
Posted June 20, 2020
Well, 3 players I would like to see on D-2 leading, while Lift is still comfortable and unpressured. I still would like to hear from him more.

Vote Lifthrasil


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@ZFR: Yes, I thought that song could help. Actually the obvious second meaning was, to give peace a chance. Alas, it seems to have misfired, instead of taking it as a light joke it got you even more angry. It was not the intention. Nor it was the intention to mock any of your reasonments or anything. Also that barely-awake vote happened exactly like that. I do not write this for changing any vote, but in order to make it clear that the intention was not offending.


@GOGtrial: Yes, you are right, we were together in that game. However, I was only in the active roster for a few days, and our interaction must have been so light, if any, that I completely forgot about it. Now I recall that someone described you as an experienced player. However, I remained unfamiliar to your play style.


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GymHenson: "Call on me should any of you need anything...anything at all. I am here to do business, and to serve"

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As he leaves one guard asks: "I wonder if he has any apples...i'm hungry"

And to that question, a new answer comes seemingly from thin air: "Perhaps"

(*pic related*)
Mmmm... What about a loaf of bread and a file? You know, just in case of, er, a deficiency in iron. And maybe... vitamins. Don't ask.
Posted June 20, 2020
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Pookina: Not voting: yogsloth, SirMrFailRomp, dedoporno, Carradice
I'm gonna get big brain

With majority not required - which is new to most of you - there are scum down here in this pile not sure what to do

But it's not me

Let me look at dedo and the Sirwhatever twins
Posted June 20, 2020
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SirMrFailRomp: Well, I don't feel confident about it, but Carradice is still my "least town".

Vote Carradice

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Pookina: Court Phase 1 ends on Saturday, 20th June, 7PM London Time + any overtimes.
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SirMrFailRomp: Is that London time taking into account that London is currently UTC+1?
Yep, let's do this

Vote SirMrFailRomp
Posted June 20, 2020
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Pookina: Court Phase 1 ends on Saturday, 20th June, 7PM London Time + any overtimes.
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SirMrFailRomp: Is that London time taking into account that London is currently UTC+1?
Yes. All these time zone shenanigans made me use "London Time" instead of "UTC+X." The reason is that your phone's world clocks app can add different cities such as London, and use it to tell what's the time at a designated part of the world.
Posted June 20, 2020
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Carradice: Mmmm... What about a loaf of bread and a file? You know, just in case of, er, a deficiency in iron. And maybe... vitamins. Don't ask.
*All of a sudden, another cloud of smoke appears(this time by the queen's davenport collection) and everyone once again sees the merchant....this time alongside a table with a selection of cakes and pasteries*

He turns to the one who said something and says "No, sadly I do not..." before motioning to the table "...but I DO have some cakes with little (r)asps painted on them....quite lovely they are. Would you care to buy one?"

The merchant then sees that several eyes are on the one he is talking to, and then sees the look on the face of the one who asked him the question. Going over to the table, he takes a small cake and hands it to them.

"Here, free of charge.....it doesn't contain what you asked for, but it might keep your belly full and help you pass the time should you end up in the queen's dungeons"

He then bows politely to the one he handed the cake to before starting to proffer his remaining wares to the others, and several come over to purchase this and that....coin and items exchanging hands. Business done, the merchant leaves a little cake on a small pillow on the arm of the queen's throne.

"For your highness....hopefully it will lift your spirits a bit"

And with that he does a twirl and disappears once more.....everyone wondering who the odd little man is, where he came from, and what he will offer them next.
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