Yeah, or that.

I don't really see the point... say I'm a wolf, and your a wolf. If I suspect Hyper has swapped us I'm hardly going to confess... whereas if he tells me if I swapped with a villager I'm more likely to fess up to win with my new team...
If I don't know who he's swapped me with then confessing would be premature.


I'm kind of getting an honest vibe from blotunga now... more of a struggling town then a caught wolf.
But if that's the case I don't really know where that leaves us.

HSL really the sooner the better with all of it out please.

if you've cracked the game and solved who the wolf is, please tell us who to vote for in the same post as telling us the switch and why you know who is what and all of that

time to be there

As I said, it's not disallowed. I just wanted to remind everyone that I'm not encouraging this direction since the related information is not intended for such use and it may distort the game. I won't be accountable for anything that anyone may assume and the respective results based on such data.

I can't be held responsible either.


Drealmer's drunk again.

So...minion then? You're working against lynch, so not the tanner unless you're playing a reeeaallly slow burn long game.

Curious - if the vote were right now, who would you vote and why?

Pretend I either didn't read or don't remember anything you said prior.

I've been drunk once. I don't know why anyone would do that twice.

Did you swap me and someone else? Or was I even included in the swapping? If I was not then it makes no sense for me to say who the wolf is.

You just have to keep at it and you don't remember the bad parts as much. That said, being stoned isn't pleasant for a lot of folks either, so it's very much a YMMV thing.

How am I working against lynch? This is not a regular game where no-lynch happens (excepting theoretical edge cases), so what I worry about is lynching a role other than an actual wolf, and I'm trying to get any kind of information at all from the only source which I think has not yet sunk into wifom gambit territory.
Of course, I don't understand the context of that push with this quote. I thought I answered the question you were asking (which yes, means I believe that cristi could've known, and that this probably wasn't a slip, though it might've been).

Oh, realization (leaving the above in to indicate my thought process) - I'm 'defending' cristi, so you're suspecting minion to her werewolf. (And the no lynch was about defending myself.) No, sorry, honest villager saying that yep, at least this 1 night newbie was aware of that rule, so it could very well be that she was as well.

Not taking the upcoming reveal of the troublemaker action into account: Trent. Close call between him and blotunga, but I find his minion claim to be entirely unconvincing, which I believe to be intended. If he was tanner or even minion, he was doing extremely well with just not doing anything at all. The fact that he changed his behaviour and went for this gambit indicates to me that he's trying to look like tanner, and so really is werewolf.

And from the top, since you're asking for it: Two lying seers seems unlikely (though I still haven't ruled it out to my own satisfaction, and I'm sorry if I trampled over your attempt to clarify it) due to the odds and lone mason confirmation from cristi. That means there's only two villagers in play. I'm one, and you've confirmed drealmer, with yourself safe enough for me due to your very early villager amongst 3 names claim. That means blotunga and trent are scum. (I know for the rest of you that's not as clearcut, and I can only offer my honest scum-hunting as defense.)

Well, technically you did say you'd respond when he said if he'd visited anyone or not, so he was taking you literally and/or amusing himself with said literal interpretation.


I meant working against being lynched yourself (trying to be/look townie and all), not trying to push/manufacture a no lynch. I can see how that could have been unclear though.

But yeah, I liked this post.

Was mostly obliging adalia's last post about blotunga's alignment/mindset in a roundabout/oblique way.

FWIW, I really wasn't explicitly (or at least not consciously) testing a trial minion w/ cristi wolf scenario - really was just taking adalia's desire to town-read blotunga seriously and testing it by poking you. Notable that you also wanted to town read blotunga at one point.

That said, I got a little bit paranoid when he made the cristi connection , so I re-read trial (13ish posts, although a few are longer). Thought process feels natural and pretty transparent. Reasonable he could've made that leap that that's what I was doing, even though it wasn't. I think.

If he's not town, then GG to him. But I'm still reading trial as town, Drealmer is town, so unless i go down the "both seers lying" longshot path, blotunga has to be not by POE.

That said, I'd still like to see blot do <something> so we have something contributory on his part to go on.

And yeah, I'm starting to agree with drealmer at least inasmuch that if HSL doesn't act soon we're probably going to start losing people's attention. ;)

oh

my view on blotunga is that he's trying to get lynched so probably the tanner, very less likely minion with how zeo's been being, but either way, not wolf

which brings it back to zeo or trent as the lone wolf

and I gotta go with that first read and say trent started with the wolf card



and nowwwwwwwww *drum roll* .......

I leave for about 7 hours and barely anything has happened. Disappointing.
Well, I may as well let you all know about the some 10 or so games of One Night I played with some friends. The Daybreak expansion was great and made some roles in the base game such as hunter and drunk way more enjoyable. The curator was perhaps the craziest role I've ever seen.
Can anybody who's played it/is more familiar with it than I (I'm guessing Drealmer) tell me exactly what point the Bodyguard role has, though? So far as I can tell, it's less of a boon than a burden. Is he supposed to create chaos on purpose by making it so that his vote is effectively nullified and could potentially screw with the lynch, or can he legitimately help town in some manner?

What about cristigale? Do you consider her to be the actual Seer? If so, why? If not, why not?



How's that puzzle solving going?

I'd also like cristigale's take on recent things.


Ah, a liar and a cheater? Instead of coming clean after I obliged you, you're back with more questions and conditions?

*sigh*

Fine.

I switched one of the four claimed villagers with bler144.


I'm off to bed, should have hours ago already. Will try to check in tomorrow earlier than these past few days.

Eh, told you he swapped me and trent.

Would be amusing if he swapped me and drealmer, but I think that less likely. Swapping me for blotunga or trial I'm considering not viable for the simple reason that I'm not sure what he gains by that. If he's trying to learn about 2 players he doesn't know much about, why not swap the two of them?

Not that I had perfect <strategic> logic for my action, but it did have a certain internal coherence. I'm assuming his was a similar decision - not who he wanted to learn about (after all, he reads cristi well generally - why not swap an unknown with her?) but just who he wanted to mess with.

Which, to be fair, is pretty much what I did as well.

Thus why I'd say it's pretty certain it's either
1) Trent, or
2) Drealmer.

Post-merge.

Then again, all that's probably wrong. If I'm thinking about it correctly, I don't know what he gains by teasing it out this way.