GameRager: But seriously, what do you think they come from?
Vestin: "Being unscrupulous is better than having remorse" - this, in a nutshell, is what spinefarm is arguing for (among other things).
He's struggling to prove that, at the very least, everyone HERE is a pirate (and it's a black-and-white thing: a single illegal download in your lifetime and you ARE one, according to him). Once he ascertains that, he believes that suddenly NO ONE here has the right to prove that piracy (in any shape or form) is evil. Why ? Because that would make them hypocrites and - as he nonsensically implies - what hypocrites say is worthless. Once we reach THIS point, suddenly - he's not a bad person since everyone else is the same.
If you find all of the above mind-boggling - congratulations.
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*Snipped head hurty bits*
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I don't have the stamina for this, especially since this only works as long you are dealing with a smart, logical and reasonable individual who wants to listen. So - though you may be biased in a way I might disagree with - if you want to carry on this conversation, I wish you the best of luck and - once again, though more overtly this time - I'd like to compliment your mental fortitude. Using all one's intellectual prowess to force an agenda is one thing but to spot something, go "that's not right :|" and selflessly argue against falsehood only in the name of truth... that's a pursuit I find noble and worthy of praise :). glhf
Both sides(Some members of both, anyways.) seem to employ such black/white reasoning on many occasions.
That's part of why I aim to try to educate and inform where I can, on BOTH sides. If we MUST be on opposing sides and argue i'd hope we all can at least do it as factually as possible, without resorting to too many generalizations & other lower forms of "debate".
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Thanks...the compliment is appreciated. :)
spinefarm: People are just angry that someone downloaded a game and they pay for it. That is the whole issue :) I have my POV and I will not change it for someone to like me or hate me :)
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And this coming from a guy living in a country famous for pirating stuff from the internet :) And yes 1 mp3 downloaded make you a pirate or there is a difference between stealing 1 car or 10 cars.
Start reading now - I never stated piracy is something right. But stating that pirates are lowlife,extremist....stuff like than don't make you look smarter...neither wrighting long posts ;)
Some might be, but I don't think all are. I think more are just frustrated at how you choose to tackle the debate on this in this thread. Repetitive and generalizing come to mind as key terms when discussing
some(not all, mind you) of your posts here.
And you don't have to change if you don't want to, but trying different tactics might help if you're truly trying to convince people of what you're trying to say.
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Again, he wasn't calling you those things directly, and he writes long posts because he likes to write...like I sometimes do. ;)