Yeah, I figured as much but it still feels like something we should be cautious about. Anyway, I voted in favor.

I agree that one of Joe Pooka could be F. Fascist-Pooka Hitler!Joe is also a possibility.

If you're unsure about a president, this is the time to vote them. With the end of a deck and a good estimate of the number of L cards.

Assume Joe is fascist.
If he gets FFL, he either has
a) to pass a Liberal policy.
b) Claim FFF, which greatly reduces his credibility, since as I said of 5 presidents, the first four were less likely to lie.
c) Enter a conflict with scene.

All three are not bad for liberals. We either get another L, or expose/sus a fascist.

Compare this with a fascist president on a new deck with only 2 or 3 L cards. He can easily hide behind an FFF claim and his credibility wouldn't be affected as much since FFF is actually quite likely.

I understand that at this moment electing a fascist is not the end of the world, but I worry about the effects it will have later. I am not that sure all those outcomes are balanced the way you said. They're not bad for liberals but I don't think the fascists will think it's too bad either.

For example, passing an L now wouldn't be too bad for F!Joe if it means he will get to drop one of the only two L cards in the future.
Or he might think that with ten players he will never be president again so he might as well drop the L he hypothetically gets right now and also conflict a liberal Scene.

I don't know. So far I'm voting NO but I'm still gonna mull it over some more.

I don't see him having the chance of being president and dropping an L in the next deck.

Can we at least agree that we want a fourth L policy enacted? Besides, from my POV, both Joe and Scene seem NAI so far, just vote Yes. Or No. Do what you want. Just vote so that we can advance.

Or what?

In case you folks didn't hear, Joe Nominated Scene as Foreman, please send in your votes accordingly.

A HUGE THANK YOU to Zeogold for closing up the last phase when my finger was inflamed such that it was painful to type!

HEY! It's been 4 days!

Don't make me break out the movie quotes on you!

Not as president, of course. Too many seats before he has another go. But he could be appointed chancellor.

OK, but it's not easy to drop L as Chancellor.

Pro tip: If you do, make him not repeat quotes from last time :P

good!

LOL, yes

Technically it is easy as long as the fascist chancellor is willing to conflict his liberal president* and thus be locked out of office. Depending on how close the end of game is, it's a negligible sacrifice.

What F!Joe would need to drop that L:
- being appointed chancellor;
- being elected;
- getting an L from the president.

Getting L depends on the order the cards take in the reshuffle, so there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Being appointed is entirely possible. Depends on what Cadaver, BTG or GR think of Joe. Assuming this government passes he will only be termlocked during the next ( possibly Scene's)
And him getting 6 YES votes is absolutely possible from what I saw in the current election.

* If the president is another fascist the chancellor won't even have an L to drop, unless in the tiny chance they both Ls in which case it will still be easy to hide them.

While president can drop without a conflict.

ergo, not as easy for chancellor QED.

ZFR, are you fascist?