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I'm here. Thanks for the kind words, everyone. Some guy burned through a red light on a large intersection and t-boned their car, driver's side, my boy is also riding on the same side. Miraculously they are both unscathed, just a bit shook. Same goes for the other driver and his wife. Anyway, all good.

As for what's been happening here - I won't be supporting the current election as I'd like us to get faster to Joppo, now that he's been investigated as L. Normally this wouldn't be enough to back him up as Cadaver may be covering for his buddy which brings me to my second point. Scene has already mentioned this but I really don't like the fact that Cadaver wouldn't skip through to the only person who he knows for a fact is Liberal. If Cadaver is L there is no satisfactory reason not to do that. I don't care who the Chancellor is and how nice reputation they have. The President is a lot more important in this stage of the game.

Alternatively, if both Cadaver and Joppo are F Cadaver's optimal play would once again seem to be to push for Joppo as now he has a valid reason to do so. Which he doesn't. That concerns me as the only decent reason I see for a F not to try and skip to his buddy who he has cleared would be that he already has another buddy in line. Bucktooth or ZFR. Based on actions ZFR is less likely to be F which leaves bucktooth as the more concerning one. As I said before an F president is a bigger concern.

Which takes me to Pooka who appears to believe the Chancellor is more important than the President at this stage. That's clearly incorrect (unless you are Hitler or you're setting up for him). Pooka also appears to think Cadaver is more likely Liberal, something to keep a note of.
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Cadaver747: You are always talking about me "top decking", first of all *WTF is top deck*?
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GamezRanker: Top deck/top decking is when 3 govvts in a row are neind, causing the top card in the deck to be played/enacted....no matter what it is. This can be advantageous in a deck full of L cards, I think, but not one chock full of F cards(like it is now, iirc/afaik).
The deck is NEVER heavy on L cards. It starts with 11F x 6L. Fascists win with 6 F enacted so even if it were to happen that the score was 5F x 0L (max L cards and the minimum possible F cards in the deck), said deck would contain 6L and 6F. That's 50%, hardly "a deck full of L cards". (At least if the game isn't homebrew. If the rules or deck have been changed anything is possible.)

Not only that, but at the beginning of SH games fascists have to lay low, which causes that even when they get in government several L end up enacted early on. A deck full of F is pretty much a certainty in every game.

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dedoporno: I'm here. Thanks for the kind words, everyone. Some guy burned through a red light on a large intersection and t-boned their car, driver's side, my boy is also riding on the same side. Miraculously they are both unscathed, just a bit shook. Same goes for the other driver and his wife. Anyway, all good.
I'm relieved to read that everything is alright. As long as the only losses are material, it is all good, and even those you can probably get back. The some guy's insurance will probably foot the bill. Thankfully your family's life and health weren't harmed at all.

As for your game analysis, nothing to disagree with. The only thing getting me perplexed is that if Cadaver is a fascist I expected to be accused by him because the mud thrown at me would smear you too.
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joppo: The only thing getting me perplexed is that if Cadaver is a fascist I expected to be accused by him because the mud thrown at me would smear you too.
Would it, though? You can still be a fascist who validated a Liberal just like Cadaver can be a fascist who validated a Liberal!Joppo. Also, some people are already not believing me anyway. How worse can it get? And again, you can be his buddy :) I find his play so far perplexing as either alignment, so who knows what's he's going for here. To be honest I'm surprised we haven't had any official showdowns yet. I expected something to happen earlier but I'm not experienced in this game, maybe that's how it goes and shit normally hits the fan a lot later on.

Anyway, L!Cadaver's is in the ultimate spot to claw and bite his way through President Joppo + Chancellor Dedo, as from his claimed perspective both of us are Liberal and in reach. He should be dying on this hill yet he isn't. How come?
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joppo: The only thing getting me perplexed is that if Cadaver is a fascist I expected to be accused by him because the mud thrown at me would smear you too.
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dedoporno: Would it, though? You can still be a fascist who validated a Liberal just like Cadaver can be a fascist who validated a Liberal!Joppo. Also, some people are already not believing me anyway. How worse can it get? And again, you can be his buddy :) I find his play so far perplexing as either alignment, so who knows what's he's going for here. To be honest I'm surprised we haven't had any official showdowns yet. I expected something to happen earlier but I'm not experienced in this game, maybe that's how it goes and shit normally hits the fan a lot later on.

Anyway, L!Cadaver's is in the ultimate spot to claw and bite his way through President Joppo + Chancellor Dedo, as from his claimed perspective both of us are Liberal and in reach. He should be dying on this hill yet he isn't. How come?
You're right, he should. I don't have a good answer. Actually I don't even have a bad answer. Too many things have been perplexing so far in this game.

Either the fascists are in terribly bad positions and they consider the game lost so they're not even trying anymore, or they have some incredibly good position we're not seeing (like a hitler ZFR ) — and that still only works for them with a dose of luck because they can't know if I'm not getting an L to pass to my 100% sure liberal chancellor.
Enjoy a bump
One thing I have learnt. Is that you are I are opposites but also just the same. Like an image in mirror. We hate people. And they in turn hate us. And fear us. Before the day is over your heart will be broken, just the same as mine.
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joppo: The deck is NEVER heavy on L cards.
What I meant is, a deck with more L cards in the deck at the time would be a better time to risk a top deck than when there's less in the deck.
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JoeSapphire: *smug*
It's been 4 days, please post. And vote.
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dedoporno: I'm here. Thanks for the kind words, everyone. Some guy burned through a red light on a large intersection and t-boned their car, driver's side, my boy is also riding on the same side. Miraculously they are both unscathed, just a bit shook. Same goes for the other driver and his wife. Anyway, all good.
WOW, I praise God that they are okay! That must have been horrible to experience (and very scary to hear about as husband and dad) and I'm very glad everyone is okay.
Post edited March 22, 2022 by Microfish_1
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Cadaver747: One thing I have learnt. Is that you are I are opposites but also just the same. Like an image in mirror. We hate people. And they in turn hate us. And fear us. Before the day is over your heart will be broken, just the same as mine.
One thing I have learnt from this game is that if I met an alternate universe version of myself who had become a politician I'd hate him just as much as I do regular politicians.

Politics is a rotten business.
hi I'm here I locked myself out of gog I'm happy to pin all hopes on joppo and dedo being L. I've voted no.

let's nein to victory!
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zeogold: ping
The gov failed and Zeogold's flavor should be incoming soon.

Voting Records:

Phase 9 (Buck/ZFR)
Ja: 4 - Pooka, Cadaver, Buck, GR
Nein: 6 - Joppo, Dedo, ZFR, Maxleod, Joe, Scene,
01 Joppo - no
02 Dedoporno - no
03 Pooka - yes
04 ZFR - no
05 Maxleod - no
06 JoeSapphire - no
07 Supplement Scene - no
08 Cadaver747 - yes
09 BuckToothGamer - yes
10 GR - yes

F: 2
L: 4
Gov Tracker: X - -
L Policies: X X X X -
F Policies: X X - - - -

Policy Deck: 9 cards
Discard Pile: 2 cards

GR is now president and must nominate someone.
Post edited March 23, 2022 by Microfish_1
GR, I'll vote JA as long as your chancelor is NOT:

-Joppo
-Cadaver
-Dedo
-ZFR
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I'm up to play? Ok then, I guess :|
(busy IRL somewhat, but i'll try my best)

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maxleod: GR, I'll vote JA as long as your chancelor is NOT:

-Joppo
-Cadaver
-Dedo
-ZFR
Well, I was thinking of picking a tested player/etc......maybe scene or someone else along those lines
Who do you think I should pick, if I may ask?

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Question to All

Got any suggestions? I'm all ears
(and thumbs, but that's another story)

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IRL Update

Family member is doing better, and will be home in a few days...thanks to everyone for all prayers/well wishes/etc
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Welp, going to bed for several hours or so.....will check to see what input y'all give and prolly pick a nominee then.
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Microfish_1: Voting Records:

Phase 9 (Buck/ZFR)
Ja: 4 - Pooka, Cadaver, Buck, GR
Nein: 6 - Joppo, Dedo, ZFR, Maxleod, Joe, Scene,
01 Joppo - no
02 Dedoporno - no
03 Pooka - yes
04 ZFR - no
05 Maxleod - no
06 JoeSapphire - no
07 Supplement Scene - no
08 Cadaver747 - yes
09 BuckToothGamer - yes
10 GR - yes
Bolding by me. I find this vote result intriguing.