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supplementscene: As I've said from my POV you could be a fascist getting your fellow fascist into play.
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dedoporno: So you're saying ZFR is probably a fascist?

Sorry, I couldn't help it.
Something being possible does not make it probable
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supplementscene: Something being possible does not make it probable
Eureka!
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supplementscene: What do you think of the events that have occured in the game thread thus far

Scene v Lift

ZFR v Maxleod

ZFR's read of Scene and Maxleod? Fascing both and Libbing an inactive poster. Is this logical?

Anything else you notice?
Scene vs Lift: Liberal vs Liberal.
No idea about the others. All I know is Maxleod is suspected of being F in general. I remember his last post to me being not really helpful, so maybe I also am not a fan.

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supplementscene: Pooka has also alluded to the fact my fascist chat joke sounds suspect. I tend to think that is not a reasonable criticism. So that makes me question if he is Liberal too.
Well, like I said earlier, it doesn't sound like you to just drop a "joke" like this. I'm glad you came out and just admitted it's a joke.


Yeah, if I don't see anyone else chiming in, then I assume the majority is fine with Joe and will nominate in the morning when it is convenient for me. But now I'm reminded of another point by scene, heh.

@scene ironically in order to get my government to pass, I need the majority vote. That means at least six players voting ja! So most probably the fascists have to be included. But fascists can and do ja! 100% liberal governments when convenient. Secret Hitler is a dirty game of dirty politics, and if we have to turn down a government because too many people are saying yes, we might as well not play, right? After all, outside of conflicts, voting patterns is how we will catch fascists.

And remember, we're nor in the Hitler zone, so we can nominate chancellors with much more freedom and less trouble than now.
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PookaMustard: @scene ironically in order to get my government to pass, I need the majority vote. That means at least six players voting ja! So most probably the fascists have to be included. But fascists can and do ja! 100% liberal governments when convenient. Secret Hitler is a dirty game of dirty politics, and if we have to turn down a government because too many people are saying yes, we might as well not play, right? After all, outside of conflicts, voting patterns is how we will catch fascists.
If I was a cynical man I might have seen this as one scum signaling his scum-buddy to roll with the plan. But I'm not that cynical, right?


Right?!
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PookaMustard: All I know is Maxleod is suspected of being F in general.
How did you come to know that?

Nobody, except for me has said Maxleod is F (plus joppo who supported me). And it was for a very particular reason, not in general.

It's noncommital statements like this that I don't like and make me see you more as scum.
The more I think about it the less I like it. Me sussing Maxleod is the sole reason I'm scum reading Pooka, and all he has to say about it is "All I know is Maxleod is suspected of being F in general."? It's really like he's trying to downplay it.
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ZFR: The more I think about it the less I like it. Me sussing Maxleod is the sole reason I'm scum reading Pooka, and all he has to say about it is "All I know is Maxleod is suspected of being F in general."? It's really like he's trying to downplay it.
You must've missed the part where I'm like "my attention for the game is low."
I'm not downplaying it. I've commented on the brief skips I saw. And if my attention is scatterbrained, it won't matter if I'm lib or fash, I still have to pay attention and comment on what's worth commenting to make my team win.

The next sentence after the bit you quoted expands further on what I've read of Maxleod, but it's not included for some reason. Is it really not worth considering? That the response I've got from him hasn't been helpful? Better yet, that I barely see him posting to begin with?
ToDay tho persons brought my attention: Scene with his *obscene the drama-queen* show with ZFR and Pooka's *liberal* views on government inclusivity (Liberal and Fascists join us).

And, my Dear Lords, if you ever find yourselves in a situation where you would require all the more boring facts shaped in words, the what common folk usually call "quote", please inform me at once! All I wished for is to serve our good companionship. After all we come together to shape the world around us.

Now, let me proceed please... Shall we?

Scene started playing even before the initial game began. His words and his continuous emotional involvement showed me the very same message "Look at me, I'm SO LIBERAL" (also "love me more" and "I want to be in control"). Do I believe Scene is Liberal, mostly certainly so. Would I vote for such a government with him it? Absolutely not. I mentioned before (in my only post I guess) how I'm not a fan of political system but if I had to choose I'd go for another option.

This is not a claim that I would choose open Fascist party with members eating children at breakfast, no. Also it's not a claim of anything else either.

Now Pooka. I like his style almost in every game but this is my first SH and things look way different here. Pooka's statement on his views on New (World Order) Government intrigued me, it's almost look like that a Fascist is signaling Hitler "hey, jump in here", or just a smartass Liberal thinking so much of himself that to try and catch the Moriarty himself, claiming the victory in the end; at the same time it could be a frightened Fascist doing all in his power to divert the attention from something OR even to something; we can't deny the option that Pooka was just a sleepy head with so little time to think things through before saying them and all that show was for nothing, an impulse if you like.

Whatever the reason I would check their every word from now on.

ZFR is always work professionally and act by the book. In my opinion he represents the government I want, even if Fascist he would vote as Liberal. Do I think ZFR is Fascist? No.
@Cadaver: nice to see you finally (re-)joining the game. Yes, Pooka's express preference for Joe could be a sign of a Fascist!Pooka pushing his Hitler into position. ... However, even if that is the case, we still get a Liberal policy out of this. Hitler will pass L, if he can. We just have to be careful later, in Hitler-Zone, not to put anyone into the Chancellor position who appeared too Liberal - or for whom there was a noticeable push from others. But for now I am happy with Joe as Chancellor.

As for quotes: yes please. Give us all the quotes you got! ;-)
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Lifthrasil: As for quotes: yes please. Give us all the quotes you got! ;-)
Come on! Seriously? Scene was quoted several times and Pooka's post is right there (or up here). Anyway I'm glad I could finally spend some time with your guys.

I would of course provide the quotes if it's really necessary. Is it? (please say no)
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Cadaver747: I would of course provide the quotes if it's really necessary. Is it? (please say no)
You could include some funny quotes from famous people, I guess?

Like:
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet!"
- Abraham Lincoln
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Lifthrasil: You could include some funny quotes from famous people, I guess?

Like:
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet!"
- Abraham Lincoln
Or:

"Never tell me the odds!"
- GR
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dedoporno: "Never tell me the odds!"
- GR
Hmm, the words of the wiser nonetheless.

I say wouldn't it be nice to have a outdoors tea party, you know, tents, cucumber sandwiches, camp fire, like in the old times. We could talk politics if you are so fond of it, perhaps we could even play (our) cards, right?
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Cadaver747: we can't deny the option that Pooka was just a sleepy head with so little time to think things through before saying them and all that show was for nothing, an impulse if you like.
Well, I'm glad you commented on what you think of me, but you haven't really said your thoughts about my nomination of Joe. Besides, all of the stuff about me supposedly signaling fascists or Hitler is just, it's really out there. You guys are trying to see hidden stuff or signals in my messages wen there aren't. That's how I always play social deduction games.

Do you see me working hard on Mafia D1? Well it's the same thing here. Early on in the game, I'm not committed enough to analyze things, until a little bit later. Because D1 is either boring, uneventful, or all its conflicts are as the idiom goes, "making a mountain out of a molehill." A mountain that is usually flattened on D2 or even late D1.
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PookaMustard: Well, I'm glad you commented on what you think of me, but you haven't really said your thoughts about my nomination of Joe. Besides, all of the stuff about me supposedly signaling fascists or Hitler is just, it's really out there. You guys are trying to see hidden stuff or signals in my messages wen there aren't. That's how I always play social deduction games.

Do you see me working hard on Mafia D1? Well it's the same thing here. Early on in the game, I'm not committed enough to analyze things, until a little bit later. Because D1 is either boring, uneventful, or all its conflicts are as the idiom goes, "making a mountain out of a molehill." A mountain that is usually flattened on D2 or even late D1.
I tend to agree with everything you said above. As for the Joe nominee - I have no objections.