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dedoporno: How are you feeling for your own government? What would be your top choice(s)?
Joe, of course. I know I'm Liberal, so I won't be letting my chance to enact a L go to someone I don't know if they are also Liberal. I'd also pick from GR or Cadaver but they're so far away, so it's best suited for someone closer. If nothing changes, I'll make my nomination much earlier if I don't forget about the game (again) once I get home.
I, personally, don't see anything too concerning about Pooka at the moment, he's mostly neutral to me and if he's going to pick Joe I won't mind supporting his government. If the final Chancellor nominee happens to be someone else I reserve my right to withdraw my endorsement and go in favor of skipping to ZFR in whom I have a slightly more trust.
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PookaMustard: I know I'm Liberal, so I won't be letting my chance to enact a L go to someone I don't know if they are also Liberal.
whut?
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PookaMustard: Got distracted by work yesterday and seems I will be distracted by even more work today, and you guys been having a lot of fun since.

Anyway I honestly don't know why Joe is bad.

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supplementscene: How does Pooka have access to our private fascist chat? This could be game breaking. I was just trying to sheep him and put distance between me and ZFR too.
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PookaMustard: I'd normally say this is a joke but it feels weird coming from supplementscene. I don't know what it's trying to imply, he's scum? Sheep him? Distance? What's with all these words being here. Also is this a LAMIST attempt by inferring there is a private fascist chat in a game with no secret chats whatsoever?

I don't really see a lot to doubt Joe on, but I will eventually need to come to a decision. Maybe tomorrow morning or noon, I'll figure out if I pick Joe. No idea, honestly.
Seriously? And that's an awful long time to mulling about who to pick so. Why do you need to take so long contemplating who you're going to pick. Pick the person you consider to be most Liberal (if you are Liberal) and people can vote. Suggesting 36 hours of stalling isn't useful to help us solving the game.
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joppo:
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JoeSapphire: Was your point before that Maxleod should be seen as completely untested and therefore should be considered for government?
Definitely not. I still say he's not tested as far as governmental actions go, and those are the only ways to defacto test someone. But I am not perceiving him as liberal. Also ZFR presented a sensible argument for the theory that Maxleod is fascist.

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supplementscene: How does Pooka have access to our private fascist chat? This could be game breaking. I was just trying to sheep him and put distance between me and ZFR too.
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GamezRanker: (underlining mine)

Wait.........whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Is this a joke or were you seriously asking?

(I assume the former? also I note only Joe seems to have replied to this bit besides me)
It is definitely a joke. There is no scumchat in SH games, you know.
Maybe not all of it is a joke but I think that, as a point to gauge alignment from, it's just less useful than pretty much every other post.


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supplementscene: You're full of shit
Would it hurt to remain civil? Call ZFR or anyone a liar all you want, whether you believe it or don't but just wanna help your team's wincon. The line quoted is a bit of toeing the line of Rule 4 again. After you and Lift already had trouble with it.

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Just an out-of-game recommendation to you. You need to get better at detaching your emotions from your debating skills, at least as far as playing these social deduction games go.
In any and every case breaking rule 4 is the wrong choice. It is just plain anti-game.
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supplementscene: Why do you need to take so long contemplating who you're going to pick. Pick the person you consider to be most Liberal (if you are Liberal) and people can vote.
We still have people to show up and chime in, don't we? Weren't you the one who was pointing fingers at people for making executive decisions?!

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supplementscene: Suggesting 36 hours of stalling isn't useful to help us solving the game.
Even though I'd like the game to move a bit faster myself I don't see where's the rush in terms of solving the game. That being said I've been told there is a very specific set of players in this game who can benefit from rushed decisions.
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joppo: Also ZFR presented a sensible argument for the theory that Maxleod is fascist.
What do you think about its corollary, that Pooka is fascist too?

If we assume Maxleod is fascist, why do you think he acted the way he did, if not to get Pooka selected?
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supplementscene: Seriously? And that's an awful long time to mulling about who to pick so. Why do you need to take so long contemplating who you're going to pick. Pick the person you consider to be most Liberal (if you are Liberal) and people can vote. Suggesting 36 hours of stalling isn't useful to help us solving the game.
Awful long time to you, maybe. But to me? It's an awfully short time. My attention these days is basically the equiva- ooh, shiny!!

dedo said it better but
1) there are people who haven't chimed in
2) rushing helps fascists more than carefully taking our time

I'd rather have a successful government than a failing one. At this stage in the game, there's already a couple of candidates that would trigger an instant nein vote. Better choose one the majority's happy with and test someone at the same time.

We're not in Hitler zone, so we better use that time now and not regret it later.
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joppo: I don't, unless I was supposed to get you're implying a " -except-not-tested-at-all". There was no test of him at all because he did not have any choice.
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JoeSapphire: I'm interested to see if you can work out what I meant. Could you read post 375 again and see?

Also, if we were to classify maxleod as 'untested' how do you suggest we should proceed with maxleod?
Upon rereading I noticed I forgot to reply to this.
By now I think we are just using different definitions of how conclusive a test must be for a candidate to be considered "tested". The way I see it, anyone who doesn't have a choice can't be considered tested. We attempted to test him and me, and bad luck nullified that attempt.
Post 375 just reads to me the same as it did every other time before.
I later said my position about Maxleod so I see no need to address your last question.


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joppo: Also ZFR presented a sensible argument for the theory that Maxleod is fascist.
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ZFR: What do you think about its corollary, that Pooka is fascist too?

If we assume Maxleod is fascist, why do you think he acted the way he did, if not to get Pooka selected?
Fascist Pooka was a theory I was entertaining even before your argument. I am trying not to be swayed by confirmation bias, tho it looks like a fit.

On the other hand, even your own theory said it looked like the actions of an inexperienced fascist. It is possible Maxleod is a fascist who did not have a grand plan other than just stirring the waters. If I was playing without previously knowing the game and had rolled F I'd be somewhat short sighted when it comes to fascist strategy. It would take me a while to realize what to do in his situation.

So it is just like you said: there is a case against Pooka but it is weaksauce.
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supplementscene: Seriously? And that's an awful long time to mulling about who to pick so. Why do you need to take so long contemplating who you're going to pick. Pick the person you consider to be most Liberal (if you are Liberal) and people can vote. Suggesting 36 hours of stalling isn't useful to help us solving the game.
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PookaMustard: Awful long time to you, maybe. But to me? It's an awfully short time. My attention these days is basically the equiva- ooh, shiny!!

dedo said it better but
1) there are people who haven't chimed in
2) rushing helps fascists more than carefully taking our time

I'd rather have a successful government than a failing one. At this stage in the game, there's already a couple of candidates that would trigger an instant nein vote. Better choose one the majority's happy with and test someone at the same time.

We're not in Hitler zone, so we better use that time now and not regret it later.
The fascists will generally talk up a fascist candidate. You have 3 regular fascists and Hitler. So if 4 players or more like a certain candidate it doesn't make them a good pick. Rather the opposite, it means a team is likely working together to get their teammate into power.

The people you want to discuss your chancellor with aren't active posters either. So you're not likely to get much input in my view

What do you think of the events that have occured in the game thread thus far

Scene v Lift

ZFR v Maxleod

ZFR's read of Scene and Maxleod? Fascing both and Libbing an inactive poster. Is this logical?

Anything else you notice?
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supplementscene: Libbing an inactive poster.
is this me?
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supplementscene: and Libbing an inactive poster.
*Sigh...*
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joppo: Would it hurt to remain civil? Call ZFR or anyone a liar all you want, whether you believe it or don't but just wanna help your team's wincon. The line quoted is a bit of toeing the line of Rule 4 again. After you and Lift already had trouble with it.

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Just an out-of-game recommendation to you. You need to get better at detaching your emotions from your debating skills, at least as far as playing these social deduction games go.
In any and every case breaking rule 4 is the wrong choice. It is just plain anti-game.
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That's all fair. I have gone into rages a few times a few times in this game, which certainly hasn't brought the best out in me.

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supplementscene: Libbing an inactive poster.
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JoeSapphire: is this me?
Yes. Not a knock on yourself as I know you have limited PC access. But I think I should seem Liberal based on chat. So ZFR considering someone he knows nothing about over me makes me think a fascist team of ZFR, Joe, Lift is possible.

What do you think of the ZFR v Maxleod chat conflict?

Do you think Lift is Lib or Fasc?
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supplementscene: and Libbing an inactive poster.
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ZFR: *Sigh...*
Fair play, that is funny tbh

As I've said from my POV you could be a fascist getting your fellow fascist into play. Which is my concern. You choosing your chancellor without any outside influence is somewhat of a concern. Although I obviously contradict that with my chat wtih Pooka. IE fascist chat shouldn't influence a chancellor pick

My question is if I should put all trust in yourself. Or have insurance against a ZFR-Joe fascist team by voting for Pooka. But he sounds like he's nominating the same person as yourself, which makes no sense from my insurance perspective.

Pooka has also alluded to the fact my fascist chat joke sounds suspect. I tend to think that is not a reasonable criticism. So that makes me question if he is Liberal too.
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supplementscene: As I've said from my POV you could be a fascist getting your fellow fascist into play.
So you're saying ZFR is probably a fascist?


Sorry, I couldn't help it.