Yes. 2019, a year when you can be arrested for having the wrong opinion. That's exactly what I was saying.
I saw this in several news sources. And yes, in this case 'misgendering' was more than just saying the wrong pronoun. But was it doxxing? What information exactly was published? Home address? Personal mail/phone? Article says nothing. In fact, all allegations about doxxing, are based on transwoman's word and nothing more.

I've already wrote that this has nothing to do with 'offense'. You know, it's actually funny how you accuse some article of distortion of the facts while doing exactly the same thing.

Although LootHunter seems to be getting flak (even getting downvoted) for his posts (yes I'm assuming his identity) - but as for the above snippet - that's actually a very good point.

Before going for the knee-jerk angry reaction and/or downvote, note that I do not actually have a problem with trans-gender or identity issues or whatever, and they can be in games for all I care - however, they need to make sense.

Sure, it's 2019, and the game takes place then - and it would therefore make perfect sense for many of Seattle's denizens to recognise a chosen pronoun - whether it actually refers to your birth gender or what you look like, whether it refers to the opposite, or whether it's invented. Since (I assume) this is currently happening in Seattle now, it makes sense to stick it in the game.

For the HUMANS.

For the Vampires - I can see Brujah going with this, because they like to shake things up (I guess they'd be the "wokest" clan). I guess some are early adopters (if something is mainstream), or rebels (if it's still relatively uncommon).

Tereador also, due to being "close to humanity" and all that, I can see them keeping up with the latest trends, so it makes some kind of sense for them to adopt this.

Malks I can see going with it - they'd peer into your mind and discover what you want to be (as opposed to what you are), so they'd automatically see your "gender identity". I would expect them to be prone to "accidentally" blurting out ones "past/birth" gender during conversation though - possibly making some kind of remark about ones mental stability in the process.

As for many of the others.... Some have been alive (or undead) for hundreds of years, and in all that time vampire society (including rules, social customs, etc.) haven't changed that much. Sure, technology has been incorporated, and they keep up with general society in general - but I really can't see clans like Ventrue taking gender identity stuff seriously at all, and if anything I suspect they'd want to be "traditional" about this kind of thing. I would suspect that most other clans would fall into a similar boat.

Tl;DR: If they do add things such as a third gender pronoun, I hope they do it properly and actually have it make a difference. So there'd be some characters in the game that would have no issue with it; however, there should definitely be some characters that ignore it, or are outright against it, or who chastise you for it, or possibly even ridicule you for it. By the same token, there should also be those who congratulate you on your extreme wokeness - sure this will likely be extremely cringe-worthy, but that's because cringe-worthiness typically accompanies extreme wokeness (or similar things, e.g. praising an author for being "so couragious" due to being disabled or something).

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I salute you in your quest to save us all from people forcing us use words we don't want to use. Your commitment to your cause is admirable. Have a great life!

That's. Not. True. It's bullshit hyperbole and you know it. So stop bullshitting. I'll just quote from the link I posted here...

"However, Hayden, posted a statement on Twitter on Tuesday (February 12), claiming that the police arrest, in fact, stems from Scottow allegedly sharing “confidential details of my personal medical and financial information” on social media."

And here's a link directly to her statement...

For the record... I'm not trying to defend the character of Stephanie Hayden. I have no clue who she is, and honestly, after Googling her, she seems to have a history of using her expertise as a lawyer to bully people. But that doesn't mean she got a cis woman arrested for calling her a man. Stephanie could be a genuinely shitty woman and you can be horribly misrepresenting the story in order force through a bullshit narrative about people "being arrested for misgendering someone"... which, by the way, you still haven't proven actually happens. If you're not offended, then why do you care? Why are you wasting time on this if it doesn't offend you? Because from where I sit you seem mighty offended...

Scottow. Meechan. Tommy Robinson. A woman, whose appartment was raided by police after she objected some muslims playing in the park - I've saw youtube video, but I don't remember her name.

Yes, I'm hyperbolizing in a sense that you won't get arrested for saying something in a casual conversation. But the moment you engage in political activism, or even simply go public with your opinion - THEY will come after you.

And? What information exactly? This is such a broad definition. For all we know that could be just Hayden's former name and a cost of transition operations. Both of which can't be directly used for harrassing. Unlike personal phone, address or credit card number.

Apparently "from where you sit" you can't read my previous comments in this very topic, on the last two pages.

I don't know who those first two are.

You desperately need to do some research into the Tommy Robinson debacle. He was not arrested for "having a wrong opinion".

Here's why he was actually arrested... He was arrested for contempt of court; for endangering a trial. That's illegal in basically every fucking country on the planet, dude. There is no country anywhere where you can do shit like that. The whole reason the current trial is a shitshow is because he continues to act in ways that put him in contempt of court.

Now sure... you could argue that reporting restrictions are unfair. I tend to be swayed by the justifications for the restrictions, especially as it concerns the need to uphold jury impartiality as best as possible. But let's not pretend that this has anything at all to do with his (bigoted, wildly fucked up, and genuinely dangerous) "beliefs". This is about him quite literally being in contempt of court, breaching reporting restrictions, and potentially endangering a trial for his own bigoted bullshit.

If it were about his "opinions", he would have been "disappeared" a long time ago. But he's still here, still talking, and still a public figure... and that's partly because it's the right, not the left, that actually run most governments.

As for that woman... you're going to need to find me the source on that because I can't find a damn thing even remotely related to something like that happening. Both of which are private information for a trans person, and leaking those things without said trans person's consent is doxxing.

It's private information. Not for public consumption.

This isn't hard. Okay fine. I mean I've literally responded to all your comments on the past two pages, but let's look at them, shall we?

"Huge red flag that devs are going to put identity politics and 'social justice' ideology into the game."

"Perspective of seeeing a game infested with intersectionality messages makes me very concerned"

Concerned that... what... people who aren't cis-het white dudes will get to see and maybe even play as themselves in the game?

IDK you seem kinda offended, there, bro...

REPRESENTATION?!?!? HOW DARE THEY?!?!?!?

THE PAIN! THE HORROOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!elebendy!!!!!11!!!1!!

SHAME FOR WANTING REPRESENTATION! SHAME!

Okay this does not show any offense. I don't agree with you, and I do think I'm gonna be the one proven right, but hey, this is a reasonable comment. So... good for you, I guess?

See this is where you just go entirely off the fucking rails and into actual La La Land. Like I can imagine you dancing to same really lame elevator jazz singing about white genocide and bullshit like that right now...

Wow I apparently can't post anymore... okay...

(Either I fucked up or it took two posts... huh...)

Right but you're totes not offended and definitely not using emotion to drive your paranoia here at all...

Who fucking gives a shit? I mean besides you, who's totally not offended like... not at all...

Yeah okay I'm gonna stop here. This is fucking ridiculous. alcaray is 100% correct and I apologize for my part in this derail.

My actual final statement in this thread:

There is absolutely nothing in that article that bothers me in any way, shape, or form. It has made me even more excited and provided even more justification for the $90.00 USD I'm about to spend through GoG on the game. I can't fucking wait. Only way this could be better is if they announced a remaster and expansion of VTMB 1 (working in several unofficial mods to expand the game with new storylines, added clans and bloodlines, added disciplines, the ability to play as a Kuei-Jin, Werewolf, or even Ghoul/vampire wannabe, perhaps, with whole new gameplay).

I really don't give a rat's ass about gender options...

Okay that's not 100% true. I think it's fucking cool as hell that they let you pick your character's pronouns. I think that's really neat. And my straight, cis-gendered ass fully intends to play with that.

I love the fact that the character creation will be way more in-depth. I kind of like the idea of being able to create a PC in detail. I'm egotistical enough to basically want to create myself in-game (or as close as it will get me).

I hope they give you the ability to make more than one person into a ghoul, and perhaps even let you sire more than one person. And I hope they give those ghouls of yours more personality, and make them more helpful.

I hope the world is larger and there are far less unlockable doors than in VTMB 1.

I hope it earns a 2020 M-rating, like God of War, Grand Theft Auto, Witcher, and other modern games have done, and I don't just mean with gore and language (I mean with nudity and sex... to be entirely clear).

And finally, I hope it's as good as VTMB 1 ended up being. I can't wait to play as a vampire again, and I'm looking forward to what Brian Mitsoda gets us this time.

And even though it has nothing to do with anything at all, I just want to say it because I feel like somebody is gonna get their undies all knotted up over it:

Thank God for Jim Sterling

Scottow - the very woman we were talking about, who misgen... sorry, called transwoman by her birth-name and said what clinic she used for transition.

Meechan - the guy, who made a video with a pug making nazi salute.

And I will.

Wow! Not wanting grooming gangs in own country - how bigoted, fucked up and dangerous!

I too failed to find the video. Essentiall the police was knocking at the door and when woman opened it they grabbed her. Probably the video was deleted. You know, like all other videos on youtube that expose some nasty SJW tactics.

"Social justice" and intersectionality is not about representation. And you know it!

Also, it looks like you seem kinda offended by my opinion...

Everyone, who want characters in a game (especially role-playing game) to behave authentically (which in this case means consistent to lore) and believable.

The funniest thing about this discussion is how it ignores some of the core elements of VTMB. LaCroix vs. the Anarchs was pretty much a capitalist vs. socialist choice (note how Nines was born during the great depression). There was also toned-down, but explicit criticism of Bush II.

It's also weird how so many people whine about "SJWs" (even though as another person mentioned, it's not a real thing outside of internet discussions) in video games and yet they completely ignore what a terrible impact business-types have had on video gaming.

Look at the Fallout series; Bethesda ran it to the ground. I haven't played F4 or the MMO, but F3 was complete shit compared to FO1/2 and NV and from what I've read F4 and the MMO are trash.

EA destroyed SimCity (the original citybuilder) by adding mandatory online play and and tiny city sizes - something any city builder fan would tell you is a stupid idea. Yet of course they went with it (and also lied about their simulation model - but that's a different story).

Or look at Blizzard; they are increasingly becoming a fucking joke. Don't you have phones?

Yet none of the anti-SJW crew gives a fuck about this. I wonder why? Maybe they are not really interested in gaming? Who knows?

Is your question really "How come the anti-SJW crew doesn't criticize games without heavy-handed political messages for their heavy-handed political messages?" Your whole premise is rooted in such a strong bigotry for opposing view points that you literally can't conceive that someone not liking current political issues pushed into their game could have any other problem with any other game that wasn't also grounded in the same.

How do you know the people who dislike the political direction they're pushing in this game ALSO didn't complain about Blizzard phone games, or online-only SimCity 5? You don't. You're just so grounded in contempt for others that it doesn't occur to you that these subhumans with opinions you hold so vile probably agree with you on most other games. That your dislikes are their dislikes and you have a world of common ground outside the political arena.

Really? SJW is not a real thing in the games?
REALLY, good sir?
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The only thing I do not from your post understand is either you are a really naive man without much knowledge of the subject or a another professional liar defending SJW crowd.

About business-types ruining video gaming - vote with your wallet. Do not buy EA or Activision-Blizzard products. There is an almost casino in newest NBA games? But why do you buy them? Why do you support EA intentions? Because you are addicted to sports games? But there are plenty of them already made, why do you buy the new ones? For "fantastic visuals"?
Bussinessmen wants their profits - NOTHING else. They loose profits - they stop doing that bullshit loot boxes. But you continue to buy their products, so they get their money. And yet you blame us, anti-SJW, for - whey exactly? Not fighting YOUR fight for you?

for a game that's coming out in March of next year, the build quality leaves a lot to be desired. they need to fix those facial animations as soon as possible.

If you are such a hardline conservative you won't play a game that has any progressive views, you definitely wouldn't play the original VtMB to begin with.

I don't get it, VtmB was a political game to begin with. There were also characters who were lesbian / gay as well. It puzzles me that this generation's more sensitive to these issues of "diversity" yet they're no different from the "Nazis" that they so despise when they attack people who have different opinions.

I never bought games again from companies that insult their audience ever since this bullshit "progressiveness" started to infect the Western world.