LoliVampLover: I also note that Vampire the Masquerade as a whole has an interesting phenomena, as demonstrated by this poll: https://vtmb.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000019397 Independent is always high, while Sabbat is always low (due to being unplayable without mods). However, the Anarchs were up early in the poll, but then the Camarilla caught up and surpassed them. The image of the romanticized "heroic rebel" is essentially destroyed with the real life rioters in the US.

Given that, if the creators decided to keep glorifying the Anarchs over the Camarilla, it would result in an interesting effect where the real-life "rebels" (against the original creators) would actually side with the in-game regulars because the creators keep forcing a glorification of the in-game rebels.

squid830: That's interesting indeed. I've always figured I was in the minority for siding with the Cams (albeit not the Prince, obviously). IMO they're the most logical force, although I have to admit that the Anarchs, despite not being truly anarchic (they have a strong leader they all look up to, so despite what Nines says they're still "lead" like a faction, they have Princes that have territory - they're not really THAT different) are reasonably competent in holding their own, at least some of the time.

It's even more interesting given that Nines has literally saved the PC's life twice in the game, whereas none of the Cams have done that (not including the ending obviously). So I'd guess most people would kind of feel "obliged" to go with the Anarchs for that reason alone.

Swissy88: Gross.
Just a note to self so I never buy anything to do with this game.

l9p03iabvuntvs: For the record, of course reallife anarchs also have leaders.

LoliVampLover: Well, I originally thought that the Anarchs were the far left rioters, while the Sabbat were the far right religious nuts (ergo, their titles, like Archbishop and the like), which would make the Camarilla the rational moderates, but apparently, being neutral is now being "part of the problem".

Demitrix2k: Feels abit silly seeing so many people react adversely to a game not released simply because the writers are inserting their political and moral beliefs into the story, which seems to fall in line with their previous Bloodlines game aswell.

There's a huge market out there for gaming controversies so id advice people to make up their own minds on this stuff than listening to Insert Youtube personality here to talk about it for 10.5 minutes and rant about "sjw's"

If the idea of an RPG with adult themes of politics, sexuality and idea's like gender's and pronouns trigger you, then maybe you should stick to Skyrim, afterall its just a game that you can avoid buying.

Taking into consideration the team, the writers and their openess talking about how the game is going to be, have alittle faith, also props to them for releasing on GOG, that is epic doesn't buy them out

*knocks on wood*

126246: That is unless they're talking about how sexualized a large chunk of females are

AlRonnfeldt: It depends on how rational or silly these politics are going to be. One can't blame people for pointing out that the Earth is round if the game says it's flat, or that anarchy doesn't work.

zen3001: just like the women in the bloodlines 2 trailer, so they're not talking about this
zen3001: anarchism does work

lubwak: Not so broke, as the new franchise owners incresed the original game's bse price to a ridiculous level. Shameless and shameful! You could get it for like 4 bucks or so, when discounted, before.

alcaray: $10? Or what are you talking about? You realize that this thread is about VTMB2, right?