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Posted January 14, 2014
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Hello, all.

It's my unpleasant duty to inform you, that as of today (ca. 4PM GMT) Re-Volt is going to be temporarily removed from GOG.com catalog. The reason for taking that radical step is a problem regarding the ownership of some parts of code used in the build we were provided for distribution.

It was brought to our attention, that the version of the game uses content modded in by the Re-Volt community (namely programmers known as Huki and Jigebren), but the authors of the said modification were never asked for permission to use their work commercially, nor they were properly credited for it.

We have reached out to the Re-Volt community, and we are working with the IP right holder to clear all the questions that have arisen about the game build they have supported.

We have nothing but respect for the modding community keeping classic titles alive years after its release, and we take such issues very seriously.

Until this matter is resolved, the game won't be available for purchase on GOG.com.
Posted January 14, 2014
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G-Doc: Hello, all.

It's my unpleasant duty to inform you, that as of today (ca. 4PM GMT) Re-Volt is going to be temporarily removed from GOG.com catalog. The reason for taking that radical step is a problem regarding the ownership of some parts of code used in the build we were provided for distribution.

It was brought to our attention, that the version of the game uses content modded in by the Re-Volt community (namely programmers known as Huki and Jigebren), but the authors of the said modification were never asked for permission to use their work commercially, nor they were properly credited for it.

We have reached out to the Re-Volt community, and we are working with the IP right holder to clear all the questions that have arisen about the game build they have supported.

We have nothing but respect for the modding community keeping classic titles alive years after its release, and we take such issues very seriously.

Until this matter is resolved, the game won't be available for purchase on GOG.com.
Shouldn't this be front-paged as important info? Or at least posted in the main forum. Hiding the de-listing here is a bit cheap.
Post edited January 14, 2014 by jamesbuc
Posted January 14, 2014
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jamesbuc: Shouldn't this be front-paged as important info? Or at least posted in the main forum. Hiding the de-listing here is a bit cheap.
I wouldn't call it hiding it, as it is pinned on top of the relevant forum. The reason we don't post the news in the mainpage, is that we believe this matter can be resolved really promptly and the game will soon be back on sale.
Posted January 14, 2014
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jamesbuc: Shouldn't this be front-paged as important info? Or at least posted in the main forum. Hiding the de-listing here is a bit cheap.
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G-Doc: I wouldn't call it hiding it, as it is pinned on top of the relevant forum. The reason we don't post the news in the mainpage, is that we believe this matter can be resolved really promptly and the game will soon be back on sale.
What's the difference to the other modifications gog used in the past. I remember there was something similar with System Shock 2, the community wasn't very pleased that you used at some point their work.
Posted January 14, 2014
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jamesbuc: Shouldn't this be front-paged as important info? Or at least posted in the main forum. Hiding the de-listing here is a bit cheap.
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G-Doc: I wouldn't call it hiding it, as it is pinned on top of the relevant forum. The reason we don't post the news in the mainpage, is that we believe this matter can be resolved really promptly and the game will soon be back on sale.
It kinda is, unless anyone is actively looking for the game, they wouldn't know to look. In reality the only people who would visit this area would be people who either saw the game instore and want it or people who already own the game.

I would say that it would need at least a post on the main forums.
Posted January 14, 2014
That is too bad, I hope this gets resolved eventually as this is a great game.
Posted January 14, 2014
I'm glad this issue is being addressed. Hopefully everything works out for everyone.
Post edited January 14, 2014 by AdamR
Posted January 14, 2014
Thank you, I think this is necessary for this to be sorted out. Hopefully Jigebren and Huki will hear from you soon.
Posted January 14, 2014
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G-Doc: I wouldn't call it hiding it, as it is pinned on top of the relevant forum. The reason we don't post the news in the mainpage, is that we believe this matter can be resolved really promptly and the game will soon be back on sale.
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DukeNukemForever: What's the difference to the other modifications gog used in the past. I remember there was something similar with System Shock 2, the community wasn't very pleased that you used at some point their work.
yes but that was just the community not the actual person or persons who actually made the new dark fix(no one really knows who they are as far as I know), so while their gripes may have been somewhat justified it's not the same as the people responsible for the fix filing a complaint since it was their work. Plus also the SS2 fix was made using source code from the unreleased dreamcast port so it's possible that the rights holders hold all the cards on that one(thus not requiring to give credit or obtain permission) since the source code for SS2 or any other game using the Dark engine was never publicly made available, again not 100% sure on that one, may have to ask "UltraDavid"(who is not only a member of the fighting game community but also a lawyer specializing in intellectual property, video games and copyright laws) on that if I get a chance to head out to a tournament he's at again.

It's also possible that permission was obtained but given the(last I was aware of) anonymity of the fix's creators we or the modding community will never know
Posted January 14, 2014
Good luck with getting things sorted out! Re-Volt is a living legend in the racing genre and it is more than a worthy addition to the catalog.

Sure glad I picked it up!
Posted January 14, 2014
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G-Doc: I wouldn't call it hiding it, as it is pinned on top of the relevant forum. The reason we don't post the news in the mainpage, is that we believe this matter can be resolved really promptly and the game will soon be back on sale.
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jamesbuc: It kinda is, unless anyone is actively looking for the game, they wouldn't know to look. In reality the only people who would visit this area would be people who either saw the game instore and want it or people who already own the game.

I would say that it would need at least a post on the main forums.
Indeed. That is not the first time for such thing happening. Why not have a blog or diary where these news could be put instead of frontshop? (I understand main page is for sale, but would be nice to have a proper channel for info like this, new patches, etc.)
Posted January 14, 2014
Oh, phew. I was wondering why the card wasn't there, but I'm glad this isn't an issue that'll totally nuke it.
Posted January 14, 2014
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G-Doc: We have reached out to the Re-Volt community, and we are working with the IP right holder to clear all the questions that have arisen about the game build they have supported.

We have nothing but respect for the modding community keeping classic titles alive years after its release, and we take such issues very seriously.
Good for you - I'm really happy to see that GOG is taking proper actions to set things right. Wish there were more of that in the world.
Post edited January 14, 2014 by LinustheBold
Posted January 15, 2014
I'm new to GOG, their support is indeed amazing.
I hope there will be a quick solution as there is no way to aquire Re-Volt legally these days. It really is a great game and way ahead of its time.
However, I fear the company might not be capable of making a patch that enables the game to be playable on Windows 7 etc. since they nicked the community's patch.
Posted January 16, 2014
PLEASE sort this out ASAP. I want Re-Volt and I don't want to have to wait a long time to get it...

EDIT: Apparently the community is mad at WeGo about this because they used the modded version with no permission. So what, they don't want GOG to have the game at all? http://z3.invisionfree.com/Revolt_Live/index.php?showtopic=3241
Post edited January 16, 2014 by Zeether
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