I agree, but what grinds my gears is that Gone Homo was released but this is not going to be released. If GOG releases the shitty Depression Quest I am going to make a thread requesting to remove it.

Maybe we should make a petition asking GOG to release Hatred. By we I mean the persons interested on buying it. I would like an official explanation on why it is not being released though.

Well, since SMAC is a "manage your very own dystopia", and since director Prokhor Zakharov (the faction leader saying that quote) and the University faction are not really paragons of virtue (none of them are. Even Lal's Peacekeepers are a bureaucratic juggernaut with corruption issues), using that quote in a morals argument could be seen as risky ^^

i made a copy-pastaru for you too!
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[i] So I'm sure that many of you have already heard the news that STEAM have decided to ban the visual novel "love blooming" game Moonlit Lovers from their store.
https://vndb.org/v861

For those unfamiliar Moonlit Lovers is a game where the protagonist has decided that he has had enough of being a singleton and decides to love the fuck out of as many people as he can(which happens to be all his crewmates) before having a pretty lameass forced happy end. Which actually, in my mind, isn't that dissimilar to a lot of games which are already on sale in Steam's store, however this one seems to have overstepped some unknown mark and become "too weeb" to sell.

Moonlit Lovers was on Steam Greenlight prior to STEAM deciding that the game wouldn't ever be allowed on the store and taking it down.

The question then would be, where is the line? Why is it that games like Hatoful Boyfriend and Long Live The Queen are fine to sell on Steam but Moonlit Lovers isn't? Moonlit Lovers isn't all that much worse, if anything, than those games and STEAM's justification for banning the game seems to be "We didn't like it therefore we wont sell it", which was surely the reason why Greenlight as set up in the first place, so that STEAM didn't make decisions simply on the arbitrary metric of whether or not they "liked" the game.

It seems to me that this is another chapter in STEAM's refusal to allow the features that they themselves implemented to allow community control of the store. STEAM consistently take matters into their own hands when it suits them and washing their hands entirely of other issues when that suits them. [/i]

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and?

I would assume the point is that Steam is no better than GOG on that matter and it might be even worse.

it still leaves a big "and?" - how does it relate to what I was doing?

Unless he wanted to discuss copy-pasta techniques, which is fine. I prefer to use CTRL+c and CTRL+v, but I know many who prefer to right-click and select from the mouse menu.

I wish I could answer your "And?" because it left me equally intrigued.

Kardwill, that's Academician Prokhor Zakharov. <.<

RoseLegion, do you really think the esteemed academician would be on board with an "a bible in every classroom!!!" campaign, eh?

Okay, that's just the opposite of what I meant. I should clarify: I'm not lamenting that Hatred is not here (quite the opposite, I think Gog has all the right to decide what to sell in their store; while I have no simpaty for this kind of game, I would have said the same if Gog had accepted to sell it).

My actual concern is that in the last two years (give or take) on one side I've seen the rise of the so-called SJWs (a term I find extremely dumb and hate to use, but it'll have to do for now) who seem more and more intent on reshaping everything and everyone according to their politically-correct worldview. And on the other hand, now there's also another group of people, the anti-SJWs, who are intent on doing basically the same thing, but for the opposite reasons.
I don't necessarily have anything against the opinion of those groups: my issue is with their methods. Both sides may very well have some valid arguments, it's just that they are very hard to spot among the seas of "WAAAGH!". It's totally fine to have an opinion. It's fine to try and promote it (civilly, please and thank you). The problems start when people behave like only they are always and absolutely right, and everyone who dares to disagree or simply have a different opinion is either an obstacle to crush, an idiot to convert or, in the worst case, an enemy to destroy. Above all, it's the complete lack of self-criticism and total disregard for the others and their opinions that worries me.

Bottom line is, no, I don't Gog should be coerced into doing anything. They have considered their options and then made a choice, as it's their right, and will face the consequences that will bring, as it should be. You might agree or disagree with their decision, but nobody can tell them that they SHOULD sell Hatred, or MUST NOT even consider it, or that they OWE us an explanation for why they did what they did.
Playing the "but but, it's censorship!" card doesn't automatically give you the right to command those who disagree with you. Freedom of speech is a nice thing to stand for, until you start crushing other freedoms in the name of it.

(this post isn't entirely a reply to you LeonardoCornejo. Also, sorry for bumping a second Hatred topic back to the first page)

You are right in a lot of things. But I still wish this game would be released here. Honestly I am not that interested in playing it, and that is why I believe a boycott against GOG would be stupid, but I believe the game deserves a chance, or at least GOG should get to check their community wishlist more often. I have seen many good requests with thousands of voetes or even more being ignored for a long time.

Well since we won't know the reasons why it's not here it's hard to say "hey GOG this should be here" since if it wasn't rejected due to content, it's possible that it was rejected due to price point I mean what I seen and read of the game it's sure as hell not worth no 20 dollars as it seems to be much what I figured it to be, Postal 1 with new graphics so outside of the whole controversial premise of the game there isn't much to it, just a standard generic repetitive twin stick shooter and that is not worth no 20, 14 bucks is still pushing it but eh that's just me on that one that or the devs may have insisted on it having DRM.

I know, "GOG should give us a reason then" but honestly I think it would really resolve jack for alot of people. Some will be content if the response was price or something other then the controversial nature but others will still try and argue that say if it was the price point that they would of been fine paying the 20 bucks for it because they felt it was worth it.

Damned if you do and Damned if you don't and sometimes it's better to deal with the devil you know then the one you don't know.

Still it's not like it's not available elsewhere, yeah there are those who want it on GOG but I look at it like this if you really want it that badly you will go to where it's available, if not then you probably don't want it that badly..

I don't really know of many other twin stick shooters with this level of destructibility and flashy chaos, or big open maps you can tackle as you wish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XrEkBT4nGc

But I do agree that maybe it could be price related.

I really don't think the devs care if anything GOG's rejection no matter what the reason fed into their hype machine, those guys have been working the anti-social justice crowd and the curious like old time wrestling promoters(and old time wrestling promoters lived by working fans hardcore), so with this and now the twitch ban they can sit there and say "hey our game is so controversal not only did GOG pass on it but Twitch won't allow it" making the anti SJW's get worked up even more and the curious even more curiouser as to see just how bad this game really is, which is great for them since the game doesn't have shit out side of that.

As for being bad, please. it's just your typical vocal minority crowd getting worked up over stupid shit again. Honestly take a toll of how many people here are being vocal about the game(I put it around 15 or so people) not being here and then compare that to the 35,000 votes and those out of the over 1 million users that buy from this site and there you will have your total of how many people are honestly upset by this.

If your prefer I can sum it up for you It's little spit in a vast ocean. In other words it's really not that big of a deal since the vast majority don't care or are just going to get it elsewhere. It just seems like a bigger stink than it is because the actual amount of customers that use the forums is probably something like 5%

It does not look big here on the forums, but on the rest of the internet people are bitching a lot, and that is becoming negative publicity for GOG.

This might not be as bad as the Nordic flop, but it already reached its worst, unless, as I said, SJWs do get involved. I just hope they keep their noses out of GOG and CDP in general, because after how they treatd The Witcher series they deserve only contempt from CDP.