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Posted May 29, 2015
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DCT: just a standard generic repetitive twin stick shooter and that is not worth no 20, 14 bucks is still pushing it but eh that's just me on that one that or the devs may have insisted on it having DRM.
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JKHSawyer: I don't really know of many other twin stick shooters with this level of destructibility and flashy chaos, or big open maps you can tackle as you wish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XrEkBT4nGc

But I do agree that maybe it could be price related.
I was talking about pure/core gameplay, yeah it adds a few neat bells and whistles but really what does it actually bring to the table outside of a few nice little bells and whitles like destructible enviroments and it's premise? nothing your still going around gunning shit down in a level, then do it again in the next and the next and the next, there is nothing really new being done here it's just treading the same old ground just with a edgy coat of paint and a few cosmetic things tacked on. It going to get old and boring quick, after two levels your not going to care about the open areas, the destructible environments and the premise because your just going to be doing the same shit over and over for how ever long the game lasts and that is going to get old fast, lord knows the orginal Postal did.
Posted May 29, 2015
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JKHSawyer: I don't really know of many other twin stick shooters with this level of destructibility and flashy chaos, or big open maps you can tackle as you wish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XrEkBT4nGc

But I do agree that maybe it could be price related.
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DCT: I was talking about pure/core gameplay, yeah it adds a few neat bells and whistles but really what does it actually bring to the table outside of a few nice little bells and whitles like destructible enviroments and it's premise? nothing your still going around gunning shit down in a level, then do it again in the next and the next and the next, there is nothing really new being done here it's just treading the same old ground just with a edgy coat of paint and a few cosmetic things tacked on. It going to get old and boring quick, after two levels your not going to care about the open areas, the destructible environments and the premise because your just going to be doing the same shit over and over for how ever long the game lasts and that is going to get old fast, lord knows the orginal Postal did.
Couldn't you say that with a lot of games? All you do in DOOM is shoot monsters in some mazey corridors. Sure they add some bells and whistles like some more weapons but its just treading old ground. After two levels you won't care about the BFG because you're just shooting monsters over and over and over...
Posted May 29, 2015
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JKHSawyer: I don't really know of many other twin stick shooters with this level of destructibility and flashy chaos, or big open maps you can tackle as you wish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XrEkBT4nGc

But I do agree that maybe it could be price related.
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DCT: I was talking about pure/core gameplay, yeah it adds a few neat bells and whistles but really what does it actually bring to the table outside of a few nice little bells and whitles like destructible enviroments and it's premise? nothing your still going around gunning shit down in a level, then do it again in the next and the next and the next, there is nothing really new being done here it's just treading the same old ground just with a edgy coat of paint and a few cosmetic things tacked on. It going to get old and boring quick, after two levels your not going to care about the open areas, the destructible environments and the premise because your just going to be doing the same shit over and over for how ever long the game lasts and that is going to get old fast, lord knows the orginal Postal did.
What if I told you that gameplay wise it would not be the worst game released on GOG. I mean, the repetitive overpriced tech demo called Gone Home was released here. And that is what got me pissed, both in sense of price and gameplay there are worse things here. And if you ask me, I considered buying Gone Home until I read the reviews and arguments about price. Then I realized I woudl waste my money in a preachy tech demo.
Posted May 29, 2015
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DCT: I really don't think the devs care if anything GOG's rejection no matter what the reason fed into their hype machine, those guys have been working the anti-social justice crowd and the curious like old time wrestling promoters(and old time wrestling promoters lived by working fans hardcore), so with this and now the twitch ban they can sit there and say "hey our game is so controversal not only did GOG pass on it but Twitch won't allow it" making the anti SJW's get worked up even more and the curious even more curiouser as to see just how bad this game really is, which is great for them since the game doesn't have shit out side of that.

As for being bad, please. it's just your typical vocal minority crowd getting worked up over stupid shit again. Honestly take a toll of how many people here are being vocal about the game(I put it around 15 or so people) not being here and then compare that to the 35,000 votes and those out of the over 1 million users that buy from this site and there you will have your total of how many people are honestly upset by this.

If your prefer I can sum it up for you It's little spit in a vast ocean. In other words it's really not that big of a deal since the vast majority don't care or are just going to get it elsewhere. It just seems like a bigger stink than it is because the actual amount of customers that use the forums is probably something like 5%
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LeonardoCornejo: It does not look big here on the forums, but on the rest of the internet people are bitching a lot, and that is becoming negative publicity for GOG.

This might not be as bad as the Nordic flop, but it already reached its worst, unless, as I said, SJWs do get involved. I just hope they keep their noses out of GOG and CDP in general, because after how they treatd The Witcher series they deserve only contempt from CDP.
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DCT: I really don't think the devs care if anything GOG's rejection no matter what the reason fed into their hype machine, those guys have been working the anti-social justice crowd and the curious like old time wrestling promoters(and old time wrestling promoters lived by working fans hardcore), so with this and now the twitch ban they can sit there and say "hey our game is so controversal not only did GOG pass on it but Twitch won't allow it" making the anti SJW's get worked up even more and the curious even more curiouser as to see just how bad this game really is, which is great for them since the game doesn't have shit out side of that.

As for being bad, please. it's just your typical vocal minority crowd getting worked up over stupid shit again. Honestly take a toll of how many people here are being vocal about the game(I put it around 15 or so people) not being here and then compare that to the 35,000 votes and those out of the over 1 million users that buy from this site and there you will have your total of how many people are honestly upset by this.

If your prefer I can sum it up for you It's little spit in a vast ocean. In other words it's really not that big of a deal since the vast majority don't care or are just going to get it elsewhere. It just seems like a bigger stink than it is because the actual amount of customers that use the forums is probably something like 5%
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LeonardoCornejo: It does not look big here on the forums, but on the rest of the internet people are bitching a lot, and that is becoming negative publicity for GOG.
It's still not as big as it looks trust me, it's what we call "Vocal Minority". Trust me bitch fests on the internet always looks worse then they actually ever are. Take the backlash over WWE's Royal Rumble last year. There was a huge stink over it, it was all over reddit, facebook, twitter and there was a movement to cancel WWE network over it the day before a big shareholders call just to prove to Vince that we weren't going to take it anymore. #CancelWWEnetwork was the top trend on twitter world wide in a matter of minutes, major news sites were covering the story, the WWE network crashed under the load of traffic and guess what..you know how many people actually cancled? a estimated 50 people, 50 people out of 720,000 something thousand subs at that time and guess what you know how many new people signed up? around 350,000 putting them over 1 million active subs.

That isn't the only example there are tons of examples you can find showing just how insignificant the amount of people in a average internet rage fest actually are.

Same with this, if it isn't then GOG would change their minds about the game pure and simple. They are a business and if they do something to hurt their income they will change it.
Posted May 29, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: It does not look big here on the forums, but on the rest of the internet people are bitching a lot, and that is becoming negative publicity for GOG.

This might not be as bad as the Nordic flop, but it already reached its worst, unless, as I said, SJWs do get involved. I just hope they keep their noses out of GOG and CDP in general, because after how they treatd The Witcher series they deserve only contempt from CDP.
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DCT:
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LeonardoCornejo: It does not look big here on the forums, but on the rest of the internet people are bitching a lot, and that is becoming negative publicity for GOG.
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DCT: It's still not as big as it looks trust me, it's what we call "Vocal Minority". Trust me bitch fests on the internet always looks worse then they actually ever are. Take the backlash over WWE's Royal Rumble last year. There was a huge stink over it, it was all over reddit, facebook, twitter and there was a movement to cancel WWE network over it the day before a big shareholders call just to prove to Vince that we weren't going to take it anymore. #CancelWWEnetwork was the top trend on twitter world wide in a matter of minutes, major news sites were covering the story, the WWE network crashed under the load of traffic and guess what..you know how many people actually cancled? a estimated 50 people, 50 people out of 720,000 something thousand subs at that time and guess what you know how many new people signed up? around 350,000 putting them over 1 million active subs.

That isn't the only example there are tons of examples you can find showing just how insignificant the amount of people in a average internet rage fest actually are.

Same with this, if it isn't then GOG would change their minds about the game pure and simple. They are a business and if they do something to hurt their income they will change it.
Well, I just hope the vocal minority helps releasing this game just as it has helped censoring stuff in other cases. Because if that is not the case then there is a big lack of balance regardign which vocal minorities are listened to.
Posted May 29, 2015
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Avogadro6: Bottom line is, no, I don't Gog should be coerced into doing anything.
They obviously weren't. Not even by the developers of Hatred.
Posted May 30, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: I mean, the repetitive overpriced tech demo called Gone Home was released here.
Gone Home is a tech demo? What sort of tech is it supposed to be demoing exactly? At any rate, Gone Home has received a great critic reception, and still is quite unique in its own way. Hatred is neither unique nor does it seem to be highly rated.
Posted May 30, 2015
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Fenixp: Gone Home is a tech demo? What sort of tech is it supposed to be demoing exactly? At any rate, Gone Home has received a great critic reception, and still is quite unique in its own way. Hatred is neither unique nor does it seem to be highly rated.
LOL it's like, you know, you have a certain agenda to push. :)

Having seen a few gameplay videos Hatred is less violent than at least a bunch of games sold already here. And it's better quality than a lot of other games already here.
I'll give GOG the benefit of doubt in case they couldn't agree on the price as a reason not to sell it.
Otherwise GOG done fucked up this time.
Posted May 30, 2015
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AndyBuzz: LOL it's like, you know, you have a certain agenda to push. :)
I do. It's called "Discussion boards exist to discuss things". Great agenda that. Your point is?

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AndyBuzz: Having seen a few gameplay videos Hatred is less violent than at least a bunch of games sold already here.
Yes. Which doesn't change the fact the game is just chaos escalation from GTA games done ... Well, worse, as much as I was hoping to claim otherwise. Honestly, if you want that, you'll get a much better experience purchasing Saints Row: The Third off GOG as the escalation aspect works a lot better there. It just doesn't have as good of destruction model. Then again, it has an entire game attached to the chaos escalation.

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AndyBuzz: And it's better quality than a lot of other games already here.
... most likely, GOG carries some crappy games. Curation process doesn't work 100%. I'm kind of glad another one isn't automatically joining the ranks of them - it is, however, possible that the devs will bring the game to a better state trough patching, in which case, GOG might end up accepting it.
Posted May 30, 2015
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Fenixp: I do. It's called "Discussion boards exist to discuss things". Great agenda that. Your point is?
My point is that you are not as impartial as you think. You are willing to ignore glaring flaws in a game just so you can make a point and you negatively exaggerate on aspects of another, again, just to make a point.
You bend your logic and criteria depending the subject in order to prove a preconceived deduction.
If you didn't have an agenda the process would work the other way around.
Hopefully i explained it a bit clearer now.
Posted May 30, 2015
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AndyBuzz: My point is that you are not as impartial as you think. You are willing to ignore glaring flaws in a game just so you can make a point and you negatively exaggerate on aspects of another, again, just to make a point.
Of course I am not impartial, and while I'm not willingly doing what you describe (or at least I strive to avoid doing so), I'm pretty sure I'm doing it nonetheless. I'm human, I'm biased and that's why I'm looking for reasonable and logical arguments from other biased humans - it's the only way to learn. By the way, the actual Hatred discussion lives over here now, so feel free to respond there, I won't be posting here anymore (sorry for the initial reply, I got confused)
Posted May 30, 2015
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Sabin_Stargem: I wouldn't mind seeing Hatred to be released on GOG. DRM is about preventing the customer from controlling the product once it is sold - while gatekeeping is about controlling whether or not customer can buy that product at all. In my opinion, GOG's stance on DRM is incompatible with their curatorship mentality. By preventing me from buying certain media, a distributor can determine whether or not I experience something.

Imagine if DOOM never existed, and Brutal DOOM was released today: There would be lots of controversy, due to all of the demonic architecture, gory props, Nazi symbolism, and sheer violence that permeates the game. If distributors like Valve and CDProject have been indoctrinated to actively prune their catalogs whenever controversy arises, they would immediately remove Brutal DOOM from the digital shelves. As a customer, that means that I have two choices: Pirate the game, or never experience it at all.

To me, the freedom of the consumer demands access to product.
good posting.. sadly living in one of those countries, which censor way too much (influenced by the german censor state), i´m against censuration at all. Seeing that GoG caves in to the press and p.c. hordes is a dissapointment.
Post edited May 30, 2015 by Nekator
Posted May 30, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: I mean, the repetitive overpriced tech demo called Gone Home was released here.
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Fenixp: Gone Home is a tech demo? What sort of tech is it supposed to be demoing exactly? At any rate, Gone Home has received a great critic reception, and still is quite unique in its own way. Hatred is neither unique nor does it seem to be highly rated.
Corrupt critics, gamers don't like it that much.
Posted May 30, 2015
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LeonardoCornejo: Corrupt critics, gamers don't like it that much.
.... Rrrriiiiight. Metacritic, GOG and Steam user reviews say to me that there's actually more gamers who liked it than those who didn't - not by massive amount, but still, love it or hate it game. Are those corrupted too?
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Posted May 30, 2015
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amok: and?
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LeonardoCornejo: I would assume the point is that Steam is no better than GOG on that matter and it might be even worse.
Look, Steam is fully aware of what Scalia said about video games and porn in America. I doubt they are stupid, etiher. See, here's the thing, Steam doesn't want things on it that can get them in court. AO violence is not something that can thanks to Scalia's tie break vote, but, if sexy games get enough attention, that was what our courts made clear. They will look into any that garner enough attention and Steam having 70% of the market, is playing it safe.
Post edited May 30, 2015 by Tracido
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