, it's a [url=http://www.techtimes.com/articles/18082/20141018/hatred-puts-gamers-in-shoes-of-mass-murderer-should-this-video-game-be-banned.htm]shame the facebook post is gone and there are no varied, independent sources claiming to have red it. I'm sure the main character's quote
"My name is not important. What is important is what I'm going to do ... I just fuckin' hate this world. And the human worms feasting on its carcass. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred. And I always wanted to die violently. This is the time of vengeance and no life is worth saving. And I will put in the grave as many as I can. It's time for me to kill. And it's time for me to die. My genocide crusade begins here."
was not specifically written to raise controversy at all.

I don't give a shit about Hatred. In fact, I believe games like it have a place and right to exist. Thanks for putting words in my mouth tho. Nonetheless, I do care about utterly unscrupulous behavior by devs and how they managed to successfully play a good amount of people into supporting them without actually releasing any relevant information on the game itself. I do not want them to get away with this - sadly, they already have, and the game is sold on Steam. GOG is just a small fish in the pond.

Mortal Kombat has violence yes... but that is literally the only comparison here. It's a fighting game at it's core. It's about fighting other people, or humanoid looking creatures you could say in a fictional universe. Hatred is about a man who hates the world and kills innocent people with no moral justification other that being crazy. You really trying to compare the two? Lets not be absurd...

I never used the size of the studio as an argument, I said there unknown which is true...

So because how you viewed the game as a child makes this relevant, that really doesn't help your case here. GTA has volience, you kill people yes, but largely that comes down to the player. At it's core it's an open world game were you make what happens happen. If you want to do nothing more than drive around and have an enjoyable experience, you can. Again you're trying to make these seem like there one and the same when there really not.

How do you know? And why do you care about their intentions so much, especially since you don't know their intentions and probably never will?

I think the press release was posted by StorkV88

If that's it, they made a press release announcing the release date and that they were closing pre-orders. If they hadn't said anything about GOG, how long would it have been before people started drowning them and GOG with messages and e-mails asking about it? I'm certain someone would have posted about it here, and once they replied that GOG rejected Hatred, do you truly believe the situation would have developed any differently?

Where does the assumption that a moral justification is needed come from?

google and see how many reactions there are about the game :D
mostly they all say that its to graphic

all games have murder and slaughter, but in this game its the centre of it, its shown in detail and thats why the most are seeing it as a 'threat' ....
if it wasnt so detailed and graphic then there would be no hype and the game could be released already :D

the gorey details in hd are the reason they object the game, thats why GTA V is released and other violent games are also released.

MK 1,2,3.... 1009 are violent but because the persons need to fight to 'survive' it is tolerated..
GTA same story, seems you are forced to do it in order to...

this newgame is just go out, without any motivation and just whack off all you see thats the breaking point the reviewers call in the videos online.



youtube. dot com /watch?v=XdnV4N-572E

He's not wrong though. You contribute nothing of worth to the community. You're a deliberately uncouth baiter whose presence immediately drags any thread you enter down in quality.

They voiced their intentions on Facebook! They specifically said to "bring it everywhere and let the haters hate!" I don't have to guess their intentions. And I care about their intentions because now they behave as if they should not bear the consequence of their actions at all. They wanted hate? Cool, they've got it, well done! Is the hate bringing them difficulties getting the game to public? Well what the heck did they expect? And now all the devs do is play the victim card (and please, don't play stupid, you can read as well as I can.)

If that's really the "press release", then I think it's fine from their part as it's "informative". Now google "gog hatred" with the "24-hour time" filter and boom, seems like the journos have tailored their clickbait article titles for some outrage (more clicks, more ad-revenues).

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Well, now on another topic that bothers me since the prophetizing facebook message from last week, people are complaining about the lack of DRM-Free downloads for the game (well, Desura seems in a "grey area" about it) but n this matter, if the devs TRULY wanted a drm-free release, they have other possibilities like indiegamestand an humble widget or itch.io.... They could even use BMT Micro or Fastspring....

===>>>So for all fans around here, ask the devs why they don't want to publicize a drm-free version with these partners.

Valve do not vet the games on Steam, it is community driven. Anyone can get in Greenlight as long as they pay the $100 (which goes to charity). Valve only takes a game out of Greenlight if it gets reported by enough people. So there was never a case of "Steam allowing it on Greenligh" in the first instance, in fact the opposite...

edit - snag... ninjad by the handsome AI.

I wouldn't mind seeing Hatred to be released on GOG. DRM is about preventing the customer from controlling the product once it is sold - while gatekeeping is about controlling whether or not customer can buy that product at all. In my opinion, GOG's stance on DRM is incompatible with their curatorship mentality. By preventing me from buying certain media, a distributor can determine whether or not I experience something.

Imagine if DOOM never existed, and Brutal DOOM was released today: There would be lots of controversy, due to all of the demonic architecture, gory props, Nazi symbolism, and sheer violence that permeates the game. If distributors like Valve and CDProject have been indoctrinated to actively prune their catalogs whenever controversy arises, they would immediately remove Brutal DOOM from the digital shelves. As a customer, that means that I have two choices: Pirate the game, or never experience it at all.

To me, the freedom of the consumer demands access to product.

I can understand legitimate gripes if you dislike a service that constantly seems to have double standards, but I honestly DON'T understand is why they'd give business to competitors in that fashion. A business is a business and a business is free to sell or not sell whatever they wish, but if you're the odd man out, it seems like you'd just be driving a portion of it away to Desura and Steam.

That said, Hatred is small fry compared to some of the publishers GOG has been picking up, so it seems odd to me that this game would cause so much drama, aside from the double standards issue. I think it's mainly the fact that GOG tends to be tight lipped about their standards and have to be verbally lashed to say anything about it. The more room you give people to speculate on the whos, whats and whys, the worse the theories will be.

When did they play victim?

And the freedom of GOG's owners/managers to sell what they want in their own store, and to do business as they see fit? That one seems to be quite low on the "freedom defenders'" priorities.

Not saying it is needed, rather saying it does not compare to MK because they both contain violence. They do not compare, therefor it doesn't make it okay to sell Hatred here just because GOG sells a game like MK.

They both have justifications for making them either valid to sell or not to sell...