I'd like to take [player] to lunch.
Strict reasoning says [another player] might be better from a "clearing the picture" angle, but I suspect [player mentioned in the first sentence] is more suspect and gives a higher chance of finding scum.
I shall wait for Caesar and Joppo to give their promised reports before revealing the above names.
At this point I am so bleh about the game, I am not abandoning the game and I will answer any questions anyone has of me, but I am tired of trying to analyze everything in my head as to what's going on and who's lying and why. Lynch me, lynch Pooka, lynch Joe, I don't care much who it is anymore. If someone wants to use this as a sign of me giving up because I'm scum, well you'll be wrong but meh whatever happens oh well.
I know the feeling all too well. I probably should have skipped my second game to unwind a bit, but didn't and eventually the drain became too much and I had to step away for a bit. It wasn't that I didn't enjoy
playing, because I did. The head games--especially coupled with IRL health issues (now over, mostly)--just became too much for me. I don't see this post of Trent as a scumtell but as honesty.
Joppo, I do understand. I also appreciate the explanation!
@GR I don't have room for all my steam games to be downloaded at once, let alone all of my gog installers.
Games like the Mordor games which require 80+GB apiece
make me despair somewhat.
@Joe I hope to someday see a scum bus driver. T'would be interesting and frustrating, especially if it was a hidden (even from that player) trait!
1. Man, you really do love your math. I like it a lot (or I wouldn't pursue a career in programming), but you take it to another level. I don't think I am smart enough to understand your layman explanation
I trust you to have done your job correctly. I also trust you to give me a headache if I attempt to understand all your calculations. :)
But while I do see the value your spreadsheet can bring, excuse me if I prefer to focus my attention in the more traditional methods. If I put too much weight in your spreadsheet I will end up forgetting to listen to what my gut tells me. Like an echo chamber I will end up suspecting who everyone else already suspects instead of thinking for myself.
2. The nightly and the heightened work rush situations bring me another problem: once someone acts thoroughly scummy I have a low chance to be among the first to point it. I help no one if I just repeat "Yeah I was gonna say that thing you said above, that player who you just said looks scummy looks scummy". Should I post LAMIST in order to simply post more often?
Congrats on the holiday! Sorry about your ISP situation.
1. I agree fully. They are a useful tool (I am glad I don't have to do the math to reason them out, even if I did use a calculator to check one of the early spreadsheets with averages listed.), but they should not take the place of good old gut reasoning.
2. I had the same issue in my early games and was advised during and post games:
[paraphrased] "just spit it out! Yes, you might look like you're playing 'follow-a-random-leader', but your thoughts are on record, which cannot hurt town (unless you give away your PM info too soon, etc), and helps show that you are indeed present and engaged." Also, exact quotes and saying 'yup, this is my opinion' is marginally better than nothing, rewording is better if you have time, as this might present a new approach to some players, as sometimes merely rewording something helps make a concept clear to someone.
I have tried to follow that advice to this day, even though I am still tempted to repeat other players POV instead of reasoning for myself. in the end, if a player is scummy, several people will pick up on the same thing (reference Scene's last Day in 57)
(Is this the point where I should/can post a LAMISS jokepost?)