One thing I find a little iffy is this claim that the developers were looking for a cash grab. It seems to me they were quite serious about making this game in this emo style. Even the trailers are really not all that controversial. The only reason this even appears as a cash grab or has any controversy whatsoever is the fact the people who seem to get outraged at the drop of a hat, heard about the game and slandered the developers claiming they were neo-Nazis and the like and their social justice buddies started reporting about it all over the place.

Heck, the outrage police did all the marketing for them! So, personally, I'm not so sure the developers really went out of their way to create any sort of controversy. It was made for them....

If they were looking for just a cash grab, then wouldn't they make the game more easy to digest for over sensitive people and more politically correct? Like something original but something that doesn't go too far like Goat Simulator. And about who is responsible for all the controversy, I agree with you. LOL The SJWs attacking this game and the people behind the game, helped promote this game so much. LOL If this game sells more copies than expected, then the people behind this game know who to thank. LOL

Dude, did you even see the hate everyone kill die scum trailer, it would make old ladies freak the hell out.

Of course it does, tautologically so. When the supporters of the game aren't saying "Hey, let's bring this game to GOG because I think it would sell well" but instead post "Woe is me, GOG persecutes me because I am awesome and I will boycott them or at least write an angry forum post and forget about it in a little bit when this sugar rush dies down" they do in fact deserve to be aggressively ignored. I'm not even saying the OP is trying to be a troll, because I think there are awesome alternate explanations for this sort of thing, but don't act like this thread started with positivity and went downhill. And do try to differentiate between what you want and what is; there's nothing wrong with wanting this game to be on GOG. There *is* something wrong with going about it like this.

Incidentally, there's very little (none to a quick search) "hostility towards the supporters of this game". Don't bring a persecutory complex into a perfectly reasonable "yuh-huh" "nuh-uh" argument XD

Yes I did and frankly it looked like a lot of other trailers for video games. All the shooters show death scenes and have William Shatner-esque over-emoting. If your shooter trailer doesn't look at least a bit graphic and extreme, no one will buy it.

Sure, there's a lot of violence in videogame trailers with harsh execution kills and stuff. I watch the most horrifying films regularly and play Manhunt a lot, but that one even threw me out a bit by being extremely hateful and aggressive.

Not saying your opinion is not valid or trying to be argumentative, perhaps your right.

It's kinda weird really. I personally wasn't planning on even touching this thing with a ten foot pole (not my thing at all), but looking at the library it comes out of nowhere.

As already mentioned, GOG already has Hotline Miami, Postal, all sorts of games that follow the same path as Hatred. If they net a deal with Bethesda to get Fallout back you'll probably eventually see Doom on top of that. If they're trying to take a stand against something it's rather lost because of that. At least to simple people like me.

It should be worth mentioning that almost the exact same thing happened to the Avernum remakes at the time Spiderweb's items were added to the catalog, probably because at the time deals were reached GOG were still Good Old Games. It got to GOG eventually. Who knows, maybe after everything dies down we'll eventually see it come out?

I think censorship being good or bad goes beyond a "yuh-huh" "nuh-uh" argument. We aren't talking about vanilla or chocolate here. You are trivializing something that shouldn't be trivialized. And most of the supporters of this game here aren't posting "Woe is me" posts but woe is the world posts. And what is wrong with "Woe is me"? People have reasons to be sad, you know and people have a desire to express themselves. And true gamers love games and get emotional over them. And people who support freedom of expression tend to get emotional when freedom of expression is being attacked and there is nothing wrong with that. You just don't get it because you have no interest in Hatred or you are just trying to justify hostility against this game because you are against this game being sold for whatever insane reason. LOL at your words, aggressively ignored. Those two words = a paradox. :P You can't aggressively ignore someone. So what is going on is a bunch of people being hostile to the supporters of this game. And I see no good reason for this. I suspect most of people who are being hostile to the supporters of Hatred under the guise "they are not expressing themselves in a polite way", "there are already too many Hatred threads" are really just the people who think the game is evil or think the devs are evil or don't want anyone to enjoy this game because they have no interest in it.

I used to play VTM LARP in my youth. Its not that much worse than vampire emo...

The big thing I got from the trailers is how they really like to show cutscenes more than even the game footage. Its kinda like a movie trailer when it seems they just took all the good parts and showed you the whole movie in a two minute trailer...too often it's true...

While I'd be mildly upset if GoG passed on the game because of its violent content, I doubt that is really the case. My guess is the game just isn't polished enough for their liking. But we'll see when the real play reports start coming in.

If the OP had created a thread about how GOG is declining to sell a game because of self-imposed censorship, then this entire thread would have been a very different beast. Where's the release explaining why the game isn't being offered? There isn't one, so your accusations of censorship are unfounded. Could there be regional restrictions that GOG doesn't want to change rules for? Sure could. Could there be quality concerns? Yes (I mean, really - look at the trailers again. Valid quality concerns abound). Could there be any of a vast number of legal obstacles to consider? Oh, always yes. Now, I'm not considering anything outside this thread in this argument, so notice that there's no justification here for attacking the game. But if the game supporters are going to be unpleasant, then their support of the game will be counterproductive.

Interestingly, your baseless ad hominem claims that I am irrationally trying to justify hostility against the game amount to you wanting to censor my behavior. Because you don't like it.

Come on, monkey. You're better than this.

I forgot GOG rejected the Avernum remakes, thinking back to that I personally thought those were rejected because they already had the originals here and didn't see much of a point of selling both the classic games and the remakes since it wasn't until we got the enhanced editions of Baldur's gate 1 and 2 as well as Icewind Dale that we got the remakes of Avernum 1 and 2. Then again we did also get Super frog HD..just can't recall if that came before or after GOG turned down the remake of Avernum 1.

But anyway you do have a point though, GOG rejects shit all the time for many reasons and they do so for many reasons and often they change their minds on it. They rejected Xenonauts sometime back for being too pricey for a indy game and here it is, Cat Lady was also rejected only to be quickly accepted and as you pointed out the remake of Avernum 1 was rejected and was brought here just before the sequel was going to be released.

So just because it was rejected doesn't mean it won't show up here. If the game turns out to be more then just a bland mediocre game that gained notoriety due to it's subject matter then it could feasibly still come here.

Sadly this is something we have to deal with if we don't want GOG to end up like say Steam right now where there are tons of total shit just getting released left and right, not saying we have to always and blindly accept it especially when they reject something that is really good for whatever reason like Braid, Thomas was alone, the old Humongous Entertainment catalog(which they also rejected) just that we have to deal with if we don't want to have this place swimming in total shit. In the cases when they reject something for no apparent good reason sure we should be vocal about it but do it like adults and not children throwing temper tantrums and going on crazy conspiracy theories or even using this as a case to bitch about GOG creating a client to help get new games and ditching the downloader(seriously move on, that was so last week.), A little tact goes a long ways and can make a case better then being a ass about it.

When Cat Lady was rejected, a thread was made, votes were cast on the wishlist, people said their peace on it and did it like adults and we got the game. Same with Xenonauts and if memory served the remake of Arvenum 1 while that did take longer then it should of though.

I said that it was a possibility that you are trying to justify the hostility against the game, just in different words. I'm not claiming that this is what is going on. It would make no sense for me to claim this or that about you because I can't read your mind. Who knows, maybe you could be trolling me. And when did Ad Hominem claims about you equate someone trying to censor you? That is an absurd thing to say. It is also absurd to be hostile to a group of people for simply being angry. People don't deserve to be attacked for simply being angry and not expressing themselves like politicians and celebrities on TV. You expect too much from people. Only in a perfect world where you are the god, should you expect people to be pleasant, 24/7. But maybe all these people pushing hard for Hatred, aren't being attacked for simply being angry... Maybe that is just a BS excuse people are using because they don't want to reveal their true positions. Who knows.

And yet, nobody has any indication that "freedom of expression" is being attacked in any way, shape or form, but people are still yelling at GOG at the top of their voices.

Where were all these people when GOG rejected, oh I don't know, tons of other games. Surely that was attacking freedom of expression just as much as rejecting this one is? Why is it that deciding not to sell thousands of other games doesn't matter, but deciding not to sell this one is "censorship"?

Hatred isn't even out yet so if GOG rejects the game without even looking at the final product then it means GOG doesn't like what Hatred expresses. Of course, people will care less if dozens of indie plat former games get rejected for practical reasons. Because then it's obvious to people, GOG isn't rejecting such games because of what they express(jumping on platforms, cartoon violence). People will assume those games got rejected because a deal wasn't able to be made or the games have too many technical problems or the prices of those games are too high etc.

You are basing your opinion solely on what you know about the game, and the assumption that GOG knows just as little as you do. Don't you think it a possibility that GOG, having actually talked to the developer, might know slightly more about the game, it's content, it's quality, the conditions of the developer for selling it here, etc. than you do?