Hopefully it does change. I didnt know about The Cat Lady being initially rejected. I bought it on a sale on no information besides the GOG store page and it turned out to be a very unique experience. I am glad i played it and i recommended it to anyone interested in a serious game with heavy themes and weird narrative.

Aside from my description of the developer's public comments, we're not really disagreeing about much, but you've misread what I wrote. The substantial churn on this topic is the result of a few active forum goers. Aside from short cycle metrics having no useful meaning, I'm not commenting on how potentially popular the game is - just why there's such a fuss over a non-issue.

Yes . I can finally go to sleep while counting these Hatred threads . :p

Well then i guess its a non-issues for you. That doesn't mean its a non-issue for everyone.

Shouting "fact!" at the end of a sentence does not actually make it one. And it is you who are wrong. Everyone has the right to decide what to sell and what not to in his own store. If it was illegal to sell Hatred, that would be censorship. It's not. It's a choice. One GOG has the right to make, just as the games developers have the right to make such a game and sell it through any store that will agree to do so, or through their own means, and people have the right to buy the game or not to buy it. That is freedom. Not forcing someone to sell something they don't want to sell because that would be more convenient for some people.

Well its because it is a game that has been widely publicize by various websites with a fair amount of people who wish to buy it on GOG.

If GOG won't sell Hatred, they might as well remove Postal 1 &2, they're almost the same thing. What if pissing on a dead body offends somebody? GOG wouldn't want to hurt a person's feelings, would they?

I doubt it. The game, at least from what we've seen, doesn't target women at the exclusion of men, or do anything more demeaning to women NPCs than other NPCs.

Now, if it turns out there's an option to rape women victims in the game before killing them, then yeah I would expect an FF on it. But just for being a violent game, nah. Plenty of violent games out there already that haven't warranted an FF.

And how do you know they haven't simply rejected the game due to the AO rating? Not too many retailers I know of that are willing to sell AO games. Or even that they've probably already reviewed the final build and it didn't meet their standards?

No, but they do have to be in order to be guilty of repressing freedom of speech. Private companies censor things all the time. That's their right as a private company, to not have something they don't agree with associated with them.

Yep. Only those truly deserving of it.

So?

This part killed me:

HA... wow. You say that as if Steam has some high standard for video game quality. Good joke, man, good joke.

I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where it says GoG rejected the game because of the content... would you mind pointing it out?

... or they have a "no AO" policy.

Like most retailers.

But, whatever. Something something CENSORED!

Umm, yeah it does, actually. One of the perks of being a private company or citizen is you get the right to say "nope, I don't like this. I don't want it." That's not censorship. That's not repressing free speech.

But let's test this, shall we? How about you go ahead and write "fuck this job" all over your work area. We'll call this a real-world experiment in determining the rights of a private company to choose what is acceptable and what is unacceptable to them.

Public schools are a public institute and an extension of government. Private schools, on the other hand, are not a public institute and they are free to determine what is and isn't available in their libraries.

Private institute. Free to determine what is and isn't available in their gallery.

GoG offers Leisure Suit Larry Magna Cum Laude which is AO. So it's not that.

These people who think stores should have the right to NOT sell something because of "muh freedoms" are really supporting not only censorship but the ability for the elite to more easily limit freedom of expression, basically. Because the elite can just easily brainwash everyone to accept their politically correct sheeple culture. Then all the store owners will be puppets for those in power either because they themselves have been brainwashed or they fear being bullied by the brainwashed masses. These people are really fucking stupid.

Nope, it was edited to get it down to Mature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leisure_Suit_Larry:_Magna_Cum_Laude

edit: I stand corrected, I see GoG is selling the uncut version which still retains AO rating.

Thats it, you asked for it. Telika, I Chose YOU!!!!

"Sorry but when you quote huge generalist and important-sounding philosophical statements on democracy, political censorship and dictatorship, to illustrate a point about legitimate access to porn violence, in the context of complains about a particular videogames shop not selling a particular game, then yeah, the relevancy is feeble, and the disproportion of the notions dragged in makes it pompous. Bringing "denial of access of information" (freedom of the press) in a matter of accessibility to a kill-all-my-neighbours-lolz videogame is illustrative of this rhetorical instrumentalisation of serious notions for ridiculous disputes, that irks me throughout all these threads. That is Calvin yelling about oppression when his mum drags him to the bathtub.

I cannot take seriously those who jump back and forth between "oh noes gog doesn't sell hatred" and "beware beware, remember how dictatorships always limitate access to information". No matter how cool and self-validating it sounds, it's just ridiculously out of place.

I'm pointing this out (and it concerns a huge lot of people in these threads). You're free to disagree, and if you think that hatred-on-gog is illustrative of (or in any way relevant to) the struggle to ensure the access and diversity of information within modern democracies, then carry on. The price is just some remote snickering." (http://www.gog.com/forum/general/hatred_on_gog/post366)

Nah, using the low rate button like a Pez dispenser is childish no matter what.

And your words in bold proves to me that you totally missed my point. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

All I get from those words is Telika being apathetic towards what is going on and trying to justify it and condemning everyone who isn't also being apathetic to what is going on . Basically all his words could be summed up by "I don't give a shit about Hatred so you shouldn't either or something is wrong with you." Well this just means, Telika has failed to step outside of his bubble and look at the situation from from another point of view and failed to think about the long term ramifications from such a rejection from GOG deeply enough.

So is following users around and pestering them to no end and then going so far as to take their avatar and make obscene posts in their name.

Showing up in my birthday thread and screaming at everyone for wishing me a happy birthday was also a nice mature move. :P