@Scene, how many scum would you say you had on your wagon while you were racing with blotunga to stay alive?

At least it got you to post here. Hooray!

Huzzah!

On a more serious note, I will be going to bed soon as I am not feeling well atm. I will try to post more tomorrow(irl, not next game "day"). Have fun, all. :)

I'm going to make this a first, single post to make things easy to read. First, while checking for agentcarr's posts, I had the idea to also cross-check them with SPF's posts and see what they thought of each other.

I checked each agentcarr post, and made a list of interactions similar to gogtrial's that I will post next thing. He has not interacted with Microfish, myself...and SirPrimalform. In fact, he only mentions all three of us exactly once.

Microfish and myself in this post.
SPF in this one.
Assuming he was the one to shoot SPF, I find it interesting that of the three he did not interact with, he decided to go for SPF. Looking back at SPF, I find him never even mentioning Agent once, and your only match in an ISO on SPF is in a quote by Bookwyrm (concerning players on single-vote wagons). Here is the SPF post in question.
When I put it like this, I can't seem to make sense of their deaths combined. They had no dirt on each other, never talked to each other. Nothing. Could this be a perfect reason for shooting each other? I don't know. But it is interesting to think about nonetheless.

I request a bump.

bump

*BUMP* ....now off to bed...tralalala

agentcarr16 interactions:
#73 - quoted Joe, voted scene
#75 - quoted gogtrial
#126 - quoted Joe and scene, voted trent [his last vote]
#147 - GameRager, flub, trent, blotunga and scene
#153 - trent
#182 - trent, Joe, GameRager, dedoporno
#202 - Bookwyrm, GameRager, gogtrial
#214 - gogtrial
#227 - dedoporno
#230 - dedoporno, continuing #227
#278 - Bookwyrm, scene, gogtrial
#311 - scene
#318 - flub, gogtrial, scene, blotunga, Joe
#355 - Joe, Bookwyrm


For Carr himself, there is not much to go by. As said in the other post, he has not interacted with Microfish, SirPrimalform, and myself in his 14 posts. His first post begins with voting scene, then the third changes to trent and he stays there for the rest fo the Day. According to #73 and #75, he voted scene despite of a serious vote being on him.
Strangely enough in #126, he makes fun of scene's repeated usage of "analytical," and...
(rest of quote addresses Joe's underlines in Joe-96, cut to shorten the quote)
I can't make sense of the sudden vote change. Especially when scene was mentioned the topic before the vote.

He explains it later in #147.
He seems to believe in the whole "votes 3-4 are important" bit in the same way scene believes the same for 3-5. Seems like the flub-related comments are related to blotunga voting flub after the latter voted him.

Implied scene looks the way he always looks (basically he has no alignment pinned down)
Aside from that, there seems to be some stuff that I think are noise. The one thing in common is that he keeps mentioning flub and how he's his favorite player, etc, but they don't seem serious game-wise. I think his most serious post is this.
First he begins suspecting gogtrial using the posts he linked at the top, as well as the thing with vote positions. Then he spoke of who he was neutral on. Which I can't discern much out of other than he's misrepresenting gogtrial the same way scene does.

Carr is a really tough nut to crack. I can't discern much from either him or SPF, other than their reads on players and who they did not interact with.

I KNEW it!!!!!


Also, these names... I know names mean nothing, but the names that have come up so far fit a pattern, and I don't recognise these names within the pattern WAIT HANG ON A TICK. Oh Calluninski was the sample role from game 55 so it's just Carr's I don't recognise. Anyway they probably don't mean anything. Sorry for wasting time.

I feel much less bad about blotunga being town now! To quote Homer Simpson "I can't help but feel partly responsible"

Hahaha! I like this whole post, but this is certainly the highlight

I honestly don't know. I certainly don't think he'd be squeamish about bussing, but he wouldn't do so for no reason.


Be back shortly

I suspect that each of them thought the other one was too quiet and was maybe hiding a PR. Or they might have went for a low kill information (this seems more likely for the mafia and less so for the SK but who knows).


As for blotunga's wagon, I'm still waiting to hear from scene but here are some other thoughts on it. First of all, it was obviously a mistake but, to be honest, I don't think it was a bad wagon in itself and under the circumstances we had and in the vacuum of D1 it was acceptable. A few things to note:

Joe "started" the wagon with an RVS vote and never moved from it. The vote was said to be essentially baseless but later on it gained reasoning that solidified it in an real vote. That might have been a natural and organic transition or Joe was presented with good reasons to stick to his vote and not have to look for reasons to vote others. I tend to prefer the former as Joe said he wants to see SPF as mafia which checks out. Unless, of course, that was just D1 distancing and the SK surprised them which would probably be perfect for scum-Joe is it's making him look better for it. I'll leave this for now though as when I started writing this paragraph I had Joe more on the Town side of things but as I went on I started to hesitate what all of this means. I want to see him as Town as he is way too attractive to be scum.

Next is flub who joined the wagon after blotunga's questionable actions and explanations. Not much to say there. Can be opportunistic scum or over-vigilant Town who reacted on somewhat poor Town play.

Then it was myself, dedoporno - pretty much same the exact same thing as flub. Maybe I should be seen at as a tad more suspicious since this is now becoming a real wagon even though it takes quite a while to actually pick up.

Then it's Wyrm. Wagon is starting to roll now as we kind of need it (or the rival wagon) to pick up speed and Wyrm is bloodthirsty for it but this isn't exactly AI for him and under these conditions it becomes even harder to distinguish opportunistic voting for mislych from voting for the sake of securing a lynch on someone you actually find suspicious. Even more so when the votee has made himself look subpar.

Then SPF. Scum. He mentioned at one point that he would support the other wagon (scene) in case of need but never again got back to it even though at one point we were struggling to seal blotunga's. This may or may not mean something.

Then scene. This is pretty much the most interesting one. There is no point inn doing an overview, everyone has their observations of scene so far. I want(ed) to give it poor Town play as it's not the first time but it's not just one or two missteps. The weirdness keeps going and going. Some things that irk me at the end of the day, in the context of blotunga's wagon are #374 and and the next couple posts about lynching either of them. 374 felt redundant in the context of them basically battling each other for survival, it's almost as if it's to make the vote look a bit better and not only for self-preservation but out of need to secure the lynch. I'm not sure if I'm not reading this in a biased way now after my view has been tainted by everything preceding but it is what it is.

Finally trent with the hammer. This is a tricky one. I want to see trent as Town as based on his exchanges and couple of actions he felt like it. But then switched back from scene to blotunga even though he [trent] said earlier that he believes both are probably Town. I perfectly agree with lynching for the sake of getting a lynch to work with but I find it slightly odd when you vote for someone you down find scummy, especially in trent's case. He is one of the people who would always vote for a player they find scummy no matter what. So there is a bit of a contradiction there which I'm not exactly sure how to read.


That's my view of things so far. Thoughts and opinions are welcome and encouraged.

Over-vigilant......me?!?!

I'm fine with my vote on blotunga. Of course I wish he'd been mafia. It's not like I haven't been a Day One lynch before.

The interactions between SirPrimalform and supplementscene smell of tutoring. The comments and questions could be seen as coaching...even the I don't read the OP comments. I guess it could also be low hanging fruit which SirPrimalform can easily post about without looking suspicious.

I agree trentonlf has my attention regarding end-of-day voting.

supplementscene and trentonlf are highest on my list to lynch.

What do you make of trentonlf's posts at the end of Day One??

Fuksake... Jamie O'Leary was ZFR in my russian roulette game... I dumb

GOOD the names genuinely do mean nothing sorry for getting excited about it.

It's likely that SirP was Carr's choice (unless there's been a doc/block intervention combined with a vig kill but it's not likely)

But Carr was not necessarily SirP's choice. There is at least one other person on the mafia team.


Oh You! Stop! Please you're emBARRASSing me!

I meant "them" as mafia team and SK. I seriously doubt SPF made an executive decision by himself and then saw it through personally.

Vote Count

(When you see a vote count please quickly make sure your vote is against the correct player. Let me know if it's not)

trent 1 - scene

Everyone else - 0
Not voting: everyone else

10 players left. It takes 6 to lynch.

D2 will end Saturday.

You killed Carr didn't you? What was your reason?