You may not discuss the wording of any PM, role or otherwise, you receive from me. Period.

Mostly a complete lack of interaction or reads back and forth (as far as I recall; I didn't check before I asked that question, just forcibly started dragging myself out of the scene black hole).

Interesting contrast, thanks for pointing that out!

Except of course for my actual reply to that, near the end of #289

The person acting as if voting randomly (thus not needing to give any reason for voting) on a wagon of a potential buddy, right as it was taking off, could (if both indeed are mafia) be doing so in order to give himself the ability to halt the momentum of the wagon at a strategic point in the future. Capable scum definitely try to look ahead like that, and if agent is scum, I'd fully expect him to be capable like that.
Was it the case here? Eh, probably not, as the majority of everything we think we see if just chasing after shadows, and the chances of me correctly identifying not just one, but two scum, within the first hundred posts of the game is extremely unlikely - but it rose enough about the background noise for me to give it consideration. (And if you do turn out to be scum, then it's going to be a connection that's going to deserve some attention, same as your behaviour toward microfish.)

No, if you are town, agent doesn't have anything significant to put him on my radar.

You call it "setting up lynches", I call it "documenting my thoughts", so people can hold me accountable and verify for themselves how my thinking evolves, and we can all determine which wagons might be viable to not end up with nolynch.

Btw, are you now saying that you consider it likely that blotunga is town (despite your earlier vote), and that if I'm scum, you're concluding that blotunga must be town?
If blotunga turns out to be scum, would that have any effect on what you think of me?

Because I wasn't aware Trent had unvoted if he had at that stage and neither Trents or Joes wagon is going anywhere. So to get a democratic choice on the last day I'm happy to lynch list helps, so for me order of preference is currently:

Gogtrial
Blotunga
GameRager
Bookwyrn
Trent

I'm also finding it very odd that Blotunga's vote is still on Flub. I mean even if he genuinely thinks I'm town, why isn't he voting on Gogtrial or GameRager who he said seemed Scummy?

Khm, I pointed out exactly that to scene.

I was at L-2 if my count wasn't wrong (with scene).

As did I, in the very first post after his question.
Trent is aware you did so, as he co-directed his post to you. But you said "Knowing ZFR most likely they are randomly chosen", while trent and me quoted the exact bit of the OP that stated this for certain.

Not reading posts seems to be endemic to this game.

2. I'm a few pages behind since yesterday, and I have a meeting that will take most of today. However, I will have time tonight to focus and catch up.

4. Quick, moderately random scans of posts indicate we've got a claim, something about masons, and something about pm quoting. I'm going to hold commentary until I have a chance to sit, read things in order, and consider events.

3. Feel free to lynch not!wyrm. Don't wait for me if enough of you guys want to go ahead and kill one of you!

Not really because if you are Scum you would be smart enough to distance wouldn't you?

It's not like you've voted for Blotunga either.

Anyway if Blotunga isn't Town I think it's more likely he's the SK

I wanted to be one when I was little. But ZFR's random didn't made me one. My wagon does seem to grow uncomfortably, as for why I'm still hanging on to flub? Because I don't really want gogtrial to hammer me if I vote for him :(

If you believe me the player to be most likely to be scum and to be lynchable, then you're doing town a disservice by not voting for me. I'd strongly urge you to lay out your full case for why I'm scum (to help you convince others, and give everyone the ability to test your thinking), and to cast that vote.

If as a reaction I do swiftly hammer you (which is currently impossible, as you're not at L-1 from my count), then that will justly direct a lot of scrutiny my way, which would in that scenario be beneficial for town.

From my side, I only intend to vote you if through future posts I get convinced that you're more likely to be scum than scene (as a successful hit on scene would clear up more of the field from my PoV), or in the final hours before deadline if a scene lynch seems impossible and I'll have to settle for second best.

That's the thing, you seem to have a fixation with me on one hand, now I don't know if it's legitimate (normal town for you) or not. I'm here defending myself again in front of the crowd at D1 for voting/unvoting scene. Does anyone have any proof that I did anything else not exactly town (though that I wouldn't consider scummy anyway as I was tapping in the dark).
Did I say anything that seems untruth? And really would a scum attract that much attention to himself on D1 (though maybe I would, and scene did last game so who knows).

I still think that flub's vote on me was uncalled for at that moment and feel that it had a wagon-building purpose. However nobody else seems to pick up on it. So there it is. I go down guns blazing if I must.

My PM says Jack the Ripper, Vanilla Town.




[not verbatim]

GOGtrial is correct when he states if you are Town you should be highlighting potential Mafia players from your perspective.

You say Flub was opportunistically wagon building on your wagon but he was only vote 2 and you had made a few perculiar votes, unvotes and comments. Since then Dedoporno and Trent have got on your wagon. Do you believe they were wagon building or genuinely thought our their votes as Town?

It almost seems like you've given up at this stage though, which even if you get lynched you shouldn't if you are Town.

If you call the few posts I've directed your way a "fixation", you must have skipped half the thread where I was going back and forth with scene. *g*

As far as I recall (I didn't go back to check), I never even commented upon your vote/unvote when it happened (as plenty of other people were already doing so). I did ask you what you thought of their reactions (as you seemed to not open up very much), but let it rest after that.
My interest, however, was piqued by your #284, where after a long absence you didn't respond to any specific questions which were asked you, and displayed an attitude that to me feels anti-town.

Now, different people have different playstyles (ref: flub), but a (to me) first occurrence of such a playstyle deserves to be examined very closely for veracity.
Sadly, your responses to that examination seem lacking quite a bit.

- Repeatedly ignored questions (preventing town from gaining information)
- claimed to be purposefully trying for a non-AI playstyle (preventing town from gaining information)
- claimed not to understand why you were being "singled out"
- followed up on that with a doozy of a question toward microfish (who does deserve attention! but you didn't put in the effort to put any real pressure on him)
- unnecessarily claimed at L-4 (you were at L-3 at #294, scene unvoted you in #295, and you claimed in #296.

Vote Count

(When you see a vote count please quickly make sure your vote is against the correct player. Let me know if it's not)

scene 4 - Bookwyrm, gogtrial, GameRager, Pooka
blotunga 4 - JoeSapphire, flub, dedoporno, trent
trent 1 - agentcarr
JoeSapphire 1 - SirPrimalform
flub 1 - blotunga
gogtrial 1 - scene

Everyone else - 0
Not voting: Micro

13 players left. It takes 7 to lynch.
scene and blotunga are closest at L-3