I have two confirmed town - rwarehall and bookwyrm.

Dedo im not sure about as he missed the obvious, as far as i can tell...

Everyone else is neutral / scum for me - long way to go yet though, I'm sure someone will poke their head above the ramparts soon...

*sigh* Looks like everyone is feeling a bit tentative today. Why do I always have to be the one to do this!

Vote Sage

When all else fails, trust Uncle Flub?

I apologize if I hammered to quick and I did not mean to cut of any communication. I am sorry. I did not think a no lynch on day was was a good move on day one and the threat of the sudden ending of day was looming. I do not think much would have been learned and I honestly did think there was something going on with Hijack. I also do not find your comment about my fairy quiet first day to be very true. Yes I was not able to be on at all times of the day but I do think I contributed and helped and did not sit quietly idle and braid my hair or paint my nails waiting for things to happen.

Yes that is true however I would not take Wyns question as asking a bout after a player has met his or her maker, but more on the lines of questioning Lift about more then one special QT and making sure he comes off as he knew about one all along.

As stated above yes I did want to prevent the no lynch but I also said I did find Hijack to be suspect.

Please remember for all that are jumping on me for the hammer (and I do see it is more for the time of my hammer - but I only have limited time online right now and have to post and act when I can) but there was also many others voting for Hijack too. I was not the only one that felt confident enough to put a vote on him. I may have been the one to drop the hammer but I alone did not make the ruling. ]

My guess would be that he either said something to catch their eye. or the fact he was not as active in the game as he was last game and scum were contributing that to a possible power role. Bit these are just my guesses and how I thought about the game and night last game.


come back to this after reading the whole thread
I had this written as a place holder to come back to as I finished the thread. However, the longer I think about twilight reveal of this the less I find it scummy and more a town thing to do as he is trying to share information and let others know and try to help. So though I wanted to point out that role claiming a bit was not a good thing but if it will help and its not exactly role claiming if things are going to move along.

Are you saying all the scum are smart? Also if you know they are smart then in turn you would know who they are, right? I mean in a logical sense if you know something about someone then you must know that someone one to have a opinion on them.


Ah does he remind you of a drunk uncle you once met at a reunion and always heard stories of but never had the honor to meet?

I would expect you to have more thought process of your own when it came to voting as I have seen from you before

I am up to date on the thread but I am going to go back now and see if I can see what Robb is referring to. .

I'm not sure what you are saying or trying to imply here. Can you clarify?

The way I take your post is that you are referring to Lifts comment about a thread for communication and making sure to to add there might be more than one such thread. Almost feels to me like trying score points if you can from it. Though upon your questions my post and me coming back to reading your post again I can see if you were to say that you only meant what you said because Lift made threads plural. Is this so if is my thought more in line.

I noticed the plural, and it occurred to me that it could be read as there being more than one such communication thread. There is at least one scum thread; presumably there is only one, since we only had one body last night. The whole head carving thing indicates that we're still looking at the same group that off'd Yog Slothowich. I was wondering about the possibility of a group of masons or something; the likelihood seems slim, since it doesn't really fit into the flavor.

Trent reminded me about the dead thread; it could be counted as well, and after about a real-time day Hijack wasn't the only ghost there.

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On an unrelated note: Did anyone catch the time difference between Krypsyn's explanatory pre-hammer post and Sage's hammer post? I didn't think to look at the time, and now it is too late to see whether it was minutes or hours.

I don't believe I deserve to be trusted. Why would you think I was okay??

Unvote: Sage103082

I think at this point the people who are most likely to kill me are town considering I made quite a few scumlists Day 1. And besides, it's one of those 'I'm fucked if I do, fucked if I don't' moments where I don't see much of a choice if I want this information to be useful.

The Nature of this game is that at the very least, power roles don't stick to one person, in my experience, so I don't know how much damage I can inflict by doing it now. At the very least, I am not a power role anymore, my death doesn't do anything except remove another person from play.

Ok, for the people that were curious, for Day 1 I WAS the Town Cop (Emphasis, HEAVILY on WAS). I don't have that ability now, it's gone to someone else, and I let RNG have it's pick of the townies so I didn't inadvertently do something stupid, and so I don't have an answer for anyone who tries to get me to prove it. I can't, and I don't have to resist the urge to slip up and ask for proof. Hell, I don't even know if it's the same power now, all I know is that it might be changed (Trying to keep from directly quoting my PM here), and that it's going to a townie.

As for who I investigated, I looked at Book to try to see if I can cut through some of the stuff we had been arguing about. And since I haven't come out immediately and voted for him, I can assume you all understand what the result might be. Not sure what it says about the people who were reading him as Town, everyone seems to be keeping their reasons too close to their chest for me to make an remote guess.

I vehemently disagree with RWarehall's assessment of Ixam as town simply because he used a certain phrase.

As others have pointed out, this phrase is common enough to anyone with even a basic knowledge of the game. Thus, it could just as well have been a lucky guess as Ixam revealing confidential information to those of us in the know. This is a poor reason for thinking Ixam town, and should not be entertained in the slightest. Scum points for RWarehall.

Furthermore, I really dislike Ixam's vote on Sage, especially doing it simply because,"When all else fails, trust Uncle Flub?" I know this is meant, most likely, to be a joke. However, I moaned at someone for doing it yesterday, and I'll moan at Ixam for doing it now: Do not merely quote or use another person's post as an explanation as to why you have voted for someone.

I know that all of us, from time to time, will come upon a post that we agree with. There's nothing wrong in saying so, but when it comes to voting I always feel it is better to openly state your own case. In this specific case, it would not have been too difficult to do either. Flubbucket seems to have voted Sage pending an explanation of her hammering of HijacK. Is this why Ixam voted Sage as well? If so, why not just say so.

I am once again on the verge of voting for Ixam. Perhaps I being too harsh.

Ixam: I've stated a case against you once, and feel like voting for you again. Is there any reason I should not vote for you?

Ixamyakxim is scummiest.

Your justification by way of PM wording is illogical. And you claim dedoporno is town and Ixamyakxim is scum(miest) based on a word?!
He was scummiest and now town. I just don't see it.

I have another day of full time job and then part time job. If ist slow I will try to check the thread if not I will when I come home tonight.

Sure. I stuck a second vote on Sage simply because I felt the game was slowing down. No one was really voting and even the discussion was halting. I wasn't thrilled with the idea at the time (mainly because I didn't want to get lynched LOL!) but I also thought I have a pretty decent group of people who won't vote for me, so I might as well be the one to do it.

I was actually all set to pull my vote off Sage as soon as things got moving again, but something about her post (the long one) doesn't sit well with me. It seems a bit out of character for her from the the game or three I've seen. So I actually do think I'll keep my vote there for now.

This caught my attention as well, but to be honest I didn't want to touch it because it would open up far too many variables we may or may not be able to explain. It COULD be as simple as a scum and dead thread, it could imply an additional thread beyond that. But I'm not sure if going down the road of discussing that really helps us figure anything else out, beyond outing a pair of town masons or some such thing (is mason the correct term for two townies who know they are town and communicate?).

And Sage I'm still not a fan of your hammer vote. You seemed to stay low the entire first day, with very little to no vote trail and few comments right up until "bam" hammer.

I also wouldn't mind hearing from Krypsyn.

I posted my reply to Lifthrasil that erased my reads post (which I hurriedly remade without rationale). Ten to 15 minutes later Sage hammered. Ten to 15 minutes after than, I noticed it and posted my incomplete reads list. Five minutes after that Lifthrasil made the Dusk Post that ended the day.

Between you and Flub I don't know who is playing the more subdued game this go around!

At least we had Hijack back to his usual self - I was worried about him after the Ranch ;)

Vote count:

Sage - 1 (Ixamyakxim)


not voting - all others
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.