I read it very differently. I just can't imagine a scum, seeing only that, without knowledge of the actual PM, thinking it a good enough play on Day 1 to go all in. If he was wrong and that word didn't appear, he'd be dead as a door nail. So to me the simplest explanation is Dedo saw the post, saw the PM and put two and two together.

I see that scenario as reasonable enough, I can't imagine people seeking a lynch at this stage. There are likely roles of some sort in the game. Can't wait for an investigation at all? For those who somehow think that me, Dedo, Book and Robb are a scum team, it's pretty easy to check out without a lynch...

I didn't consider whether she (or anyone else) would have a change in powers openly for the same reason I didn't consider why night might fall in such a way. I was missing information that would eliminate possibilities when backtracking (older posts I hadn't read yet), and I knew which answer was right by the time I caught up (she'd been inactive). To directly answer your question: I had a few ideas, but most of them simply weren't worth actual consideration at any time.


[announcer voice]
Grand plan, desperate patch, or inept failing? You decide, on today's episode of Is Bookwyrm627 scum?.
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I'm interested in seeing how/whether I die this game. From people's comments so far, I'm not bad enough to lynch yet, but I seem to be outputting plenty of rope for scum to use later, so I might not be a NK target yet.

As I've already stated, the 'tell' Dedo found wasn't present in my PM. Hence my removed vote for Trent, i fact I now have him as definitely leaning town, for other reasons I'm not going to disclose now. If you are Town, you will understand the reasons I am not going to disclose this other 'tell', and I could of course easily be completely wrong, but its day 1 and we have little to go on , so I will currently hang my hat on this for now.

Ix is at 7 and hasn't been hammered yet. This means -

Either he is scum, so any remaining scum won't hammer him - there is always the bussing option, but if i were scum and not on him yet, I would wait just a little longer , especially as an alternative has come up in RWarehall.

or

He is Town, and all the scum are already voting for him. This could be, but I doubt it.

Bold is my doing.

Is this a good thing? Am I reading your post wrong?

Also are you actually playing the game with the intent to find scum or are you playing the game to see how others react to you and how much it takes to push before someone pushes back?

In that case, he could just make up a different reason. Since he hadn't actually stated anything definitively yet, he was safe.

And I never stated that you stated differently. I have merely stated that you followed dedoporno's vote on trentonlf rather rapidly. You still haven't divulged the rason why, either, iirc.

I've noticed. When did Lifthrasil say we only have 2 days and some change left? His post says it was '2 days' ago, but GOG.com rounds up, I think.

EBWOP

Dangit.. the last two quotes in my above post should be attributed to Robbeasy, not RWarehall.

I don't think all. I think something scared off the second (last?) scum from hammering. I'd suggest a scum snuck in just before end to let a townie finish me off, but I really don't have a strong reason to suspect Bookwyrm or trenton yet.

I'd suggest a few people push futher on RWarehall and seeing if "anyone" in particular gets off. If you're not comfortable lynching RWarehall at that point, come back and lynch me.

Note: "inept failing" should have been "inept flailing" in my last post. And the annoucer part was meant to be a joke; hopefully I'll be over those before Day 2.

It is observation based on people's comments to my posts. I look, and I comment; I haven't figured out how to keep my mouth shut yet. Some have said they see me leaning one way (and half the time are confused about my motives), others have said they see me leaning the other.

I am still feeling my way around the game and the players, trying to determine the best way for me to help town.

Dedo's "tell" on me? I didn't see it until he stated it explicitly.
Krypsyn's bait vote? No clue what he was trying to pull until he explained himself. I'm still wondering if there isn't another layer there.
Are Trent and Hijack baiting me, or trying to set me up? I don't know.

I'm out of my league, and I know it.

Behind the forest the sky is turning red. And eerie light illuminates the heavy cloud building up over the NPP from below and lighnings play around that cloud now constantly. But the cloud still being there is actually a good sign. Right when an emission starts the clouds are usually torn apart by the pressure wave. So you still have some time, though how much exactly only the Zone knows.

You should start practising if you're town - one moment you say some pretty scummy things, the next you seem to hint a bit at having an important enough role to get night-killed early on. IMHO, neither is particularly helpful if you're town.

I had a discussion about the whole thing with Lift before things even went that way. My money is on this not being a coincidence.

@Ix, given you're @L-1, isn't this the place where you usually role-claim? Surprisingly, I refreshed before posting (seriously, who does that????) and saw Lift's announcement, but my questions stands.

If that was intentional, I'm not sure if I appreciate it or what to think.


I've been waiting on a reaction from Ixamyakxim and wondered why he hasn't thought of claiming. Either he thinks that it won't make any difference, even if he's town, or he's scum and sees no point in false-claiming considering that we expect to get reveals.

Right, sorry I haven't been posting too much. I've been reading (and posting on the forum elsewhere) from my phone, but it's really difficult to make a proper post here on a phone so I've left it till I can do it properly.

I'm not sure what to make of the whole situation going on.

To me Ix is pretty much the scummiest target available today, whether he is actually scum or just badly misunderstood town remains to be seen but I would be very careful in the assumptions we make about his wagon.
Vitek (and others) covered all kind of possibilities in the Space game while I laughed in the QT because both my buddies had bussed me day 1 and everyone dismissed that as entirely impossible. At this point I wouldn't rule out anything just because it seems unlikely. Maybe scum are holding off hammering because they don't want to give themselves away as too eager, maybe all the scum are on him, maybe he is scum and his buddies are trying to shift the wagon to RWarehall, maybe all the scum are sitting voting out entirely to reduce suspicion; there are so many possibilities and they all incriminate different people we need to be careful of any assumption we make.

I some what agree with Krypsyn about dedo and the 'tell', but while I agree it's a possibility, and I can see a number of ways in which it could have been manufactured (RWarehall and dedo are scum together, some kind of flavour cop role used in a N0, purely ballsy scum play, among others) I just don't see that that's likely. Just like I didn't see yogs and CSPVG's claims last game being false, it's a far too risky play for scum to make Day 1 unless they are desperate (odds stacked against them) or over confident (odds stacked in their favour) and I don't think the game would be so unbalanced in either direction to allow those play styles.

So while I can understand why people might vote on dedo, and RWarehall, I'm a bit puzzled either wagon gained such traction. Because it requires believing a pretty unlikely set of circumstances to get to the conclusion they are scum, so I would definitely keep an eye on the people voting on either of them.

Glad I logged back in! With Lift's post it seems I might get hammered before you guys can more fully test the seriousness of the votes on RWarehall.

No role to claim. And I still don't think I was acting too scummy and had a few good tidbits. I still stand by the fact that someone should find out dedo's alignment (watch out for a false claim!) and if he is scum, I still do think the "tell" might have been a bold play for scum to play out loud with an engineered scenario.

IF dedo is town, I still say there was a scum in early on his train and I THOUGHT that scum (Krypsyn perhaps?) would be the one to hammer me late. In that case, the would be late scum on dedo is someone that went in early on me.

Regardless, I think the stall on dedo and the subsequent quick move on me should give you guys a lot to work with!

None of those that were on dedoporno are currently voting on you. What are your thoughts on this?