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Posted July 18, 2015
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BillyMaysFan59: You aren't supposed to cuss in thread titles, am I correct? :P
I am sure Judas will change it to "Love this galaxy client" as soon as he sees it. ;)
Posted July 18, 2015
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Wolfszorn: I like the GOG client and I know it's beta, I expect bugs. But this isn't a bug its a coding mistake. You can reproduce it at any time. And it's not something that happens in special circumstance, that's what frustrates me.

Its one of the first things you gonna test when developing a software and many installers are prebuilt like that. That they don't touch any file that doesn't come with the installation because it might be something that shouldn't be deleted.

Just because a software puts a single DLL file into system32 folder it isn't a good idea to delete the whole directory and there is no excuse even if the software has the word "beta" in the caption.

Not only all the downloaded games but also all the savegames and mods I had... gone. Just by using the official uninstaller. Grrr... really frustrating.
that really sucks. I keep forgetting to not start a game from galaxy if its a long play through like witcher in order to prevent that wipe of saved games etc. Frankly, I'm wondering why I even have it still running after taking days to download my library with it. I still use the regular browser to do all my shopping, reading etc due to the galaxy looking like crap.
Posted July 18, 2015
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BillyMaysFan59: You aren't supposed to cuss in thread titles, am I correct? :P
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stg83: I am sure Judas will change it to "Love this galaxy client" as soon as he sees it. ;)
Or 'pleasure' if they choose an agnostic approach.
Posted July 18, 2015
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BKGaming: Yea the change is only default for new installations of Galaxy and it worked without issue for me. Granted I used CCleaner to uninstall not the default Windows uninstaller. But my games were left intact without issue.
That might be the reason why! CCleaner IS using different algorithms do delete and check. Widows-uninstaller is rather stupid (also stupid too configure).
Posted July 18, 2015
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BKGaming: Yea the change is only default for new installations of Galaxy and it worked without issue for me. Granted I used CCleaner to uninstall not the default Windows uninstaller. But my games were left intact without issue.
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Goodaltgamer: That might be the reason why! CCleaner IS using different algorithms do delete and check. Widows-uninstaller is rather stupid (also stupid too configure).
Not sure I can agree with that. Most Installers are fairly cognizant of all the 'things' they put on your installation location. However, if the application drops turds on your file system, the installer doesn't know about it and they get left behind even if you "un-install"

That behavior is meant to protect your data.
Posted July 18, 2015
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Wolfszorn: Don't get me wrong. I like GoG and it's nothing personal. But when an uninstall of the client deletes my whole game library, you might understand that it makes me VERY being pissed off.
I understand. I reckon you've expressed yourself moderately given the circumstances.
Posted July 18, 2015
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viperfdl: It's called Beta for a reason.
It's not even a Beta, it's completely useless and broken.
People report a ton of problems. I had problems myself: For 2 days i couldn't even download games on it since it would always tell me "Something went wrong".
Then it constantly logs me out whenever i'm not using it for 15 minutes and at every program start i have to log in too which is very annoying. No option to save the password is bullshit.
Games aren't available for download. I have a couple like sin Gold and the CD version of Lords of the Realm (Floppy version is available though, so it makes no sense at all)
Whenever it updates itself, you have to manually restart the program instead of itself starting up after updating like Steam does (and always did, even when it was brand new)
And it takes forever to start. On Steam i have currently 397 games installed, spread out over 2 hard drives and Steam boots up in about 15 seconds. Gog on the other hand takes a full minute, with only 140 games installed on the same HDD. That is totally unacceptable. Same with games, i click on a game, my HDD goes nuts for 3 seconds, then i have to click on Play. That doesn't happen on Steam, i click on the game title, it instantly shows the game information screen.

To be honest Gog Galaxy at the moment is just as bad as Origin was when EA puked it out prematurely in 2012, though they at least called it what it was: Alpha.

Why did GOG release Galaxy so prematurely? Did they suddenly think "Whoa guys, we totally have to release our own client so we can compete with Steam and Origin, doesn't matter that it has no features, is mostly broken, takes forever to load and will piss off everybody, off to battle with Steam we go!" or something?
And why do they advertise it so heavily in this current alpha state?
Posted July 18, 2015
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JDelekto: Not sure I can agree with that. Most Installers are fairly cognizant of all the 'things' they put on your installation location. However, if the application drops turds on your file system, the installer doesn't know about it and they get left behind even if you "un-install"

That behavior is meant to protect your data.
Yup, correct, maybe I was not so clear.

It seems that depending on the setup of Galaxy the uninstaller is more like del %\galaxy\*.* /S.

And this information is stored in the uninstaller.....

Even which OS is being used and similar. Just had a look in a hex editor in one of the dat files.

But if Windows might be ignoring things in there (wrong order or whatsoever) and CCleaner is NOT ignoring them....

Yes you would imagine Windows would work this way, but we all know how good Windows is for this ;)
Posted July 18, 2015
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JDelekto: Not sure I can agree with that. Most Installers are fairly cognizant of all the 'things' they put on your installation location. However, if the application drops turds on your file system, the installer doesn't know about it and they get left behind even if you "un-install"

That behavior is meant to protect your data.
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Goodaltgamer: Yup, correct, maybe I was not so clear.

It seems that depending on the setup of Galaxy the uninstaller is more like del %\galaxy\*.* /S.

And this information is stored in the uninstaller.....

Even which OS is being used and similar. Just had a look in a hex editor in one of the dat files.

But if Windows might be ignoring things in there (wrong order or whatsoever) and CCleaner is NOT ignoring them....

Yes you would imagine Windows would work this way, but we all know how good Windows is for this ;)
I could say "monkey see monkey do", but if a person doesn't take responsibility for their own data, they're probably too lazy to care what happens to it.
Posted July 18, 2015
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JDelekto: I could say "monkey see monkey do", but if a person doesn't take responsibility for their own data, they're probably too lazy to care what happens to it.
As I said before, Galaxy for me is not the directory were my games are stored. I know that Windows is not always working correct, hence some security measures ;)

And most of the time I am still using 8.3 format for everything......
Posted July 18, 2015
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Goodaltgamer: That might be the reason why! CCleaner IS using different algorithms do delete and check. Widows-uninstaller is rather stupid (also stupid too configure).
From this I assume that you are an installer author and know how Windows Installer works, right?

As in, you have written production-ready installer code?
Posted July 18, 2015
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JDelekto: I could say "monkey see monkey do", but if a person doesn't take responsibility for their own data, they're probably too lazy to care what happens to it.
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Goodaltgamer: As I said before, Galaxy for me is not the directory were my games are stored. I know that Windows is not always working correct, hence some security measures ;)

And most of the time I am still using 8.3 format for everything......
DOS zombies?
Posted July 18, 2015
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Goodaltgamer: And most of the time I am still using 8.3 format for everything......
How long have you been living in that cave of yours?
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Goodaltgamer: That might be the reason why! CCleaner IS using different algorithms do delete and check. Widows-uninstaller is rather stupid (also stupid too configure).
KEK! I can debunk this, too lazy at the moment. 5 minutes on the webs and you can find info on how Windows Installer works.
Post edited July 18, 2015 by Elenarie
Posted July 18, 2015
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JDelekto: DOS zombies?
At least I didn't run into problems like others. It sounds and is stupid, but somewhere Windows and affiliates is still using 8.3 format....It has been improved, but there are still some problems with non 8.3 and non-Latin characters around.....
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Goodaltgamer: And most of the time I am still using 8.3 format for everything......
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Elenarie: How long have you been living in that cave of yours?
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Goodaltgamer: That might be the reason why! CCleaner IS using different algorithms do delete and check. Widows-uninstaller is rather stupid (also stupid too configure).
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Elenarie: KEK! I can debunk this, too lazy at the moment. 5 minutes on the webs and you can find info on how Windows Installer works.
Yep too lazy for unqualified comments.....
Work in support and than we can talk again

Have a nice day!
Post edited July 18, 2015 by Goodaltgamer
Posted July 18, 2015
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Goodaltgamer: Have a nice day!
A person who keeps their cool under stress, nice.
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