A thought just occured to me. Could it be scene actually... "bussing" a buddy? I can see scene thinking it a good idea. Would explain a bit their exchange on D1. And scene insisting he wasn't buddying up but genuinely voting on blotunga.

Let's put some pressure.

Vote scene

If I understand what you said with my sleepy head at 7 AM then there is no one else on the ship? Anyway it seems I need to not fully awaken to think more with stomach and less with brain. After reading again everything from the original I could now understand why it is comming and my error whas to assume, that this shadow passes WHEN we already are standing in a circle. Well my claim is no longer holdable.
UNVOTE Inkblot

For the love of GOG, stop looking at ships and passing shadows. You error was to assume that Joe's fluff matters.

Please understand what this game is about....

We don't find out the villains by analyzing the "story". Dont look at what story Joe posts.

The thing is even if Blotunga did mistake 'Safiros' for the word "Zephir", why would he assume ZFR was the night target in the below context?

"While Safiros leads a salute to the fallen Saviour there is a scuffle.

In silence the camera shows everyone's face then lifts to Safiros looking down from above. "

Personally I don't even remember the name "Zephir" to be able to confuse it with similar names, because your poster name is ZFR.

It also has the word 'Scene' in there:

discerning stare as tense music builds, before the scene cuts away.

He didn't think I was the night kill target.

You didnt answer my question: what kind of idiot do you think blotunga is to out himself for no reason like that if he didn't mistake Zephyr for Saphiros.

Also, the text referenced is Joe's story, so naturally he'll be looking at our stage names, and not "ZFR" or "scene".

Korotan, ZFR is right in that the roleplay elements are irrelevant to the gameplay

You have to decide which of your fellow posters in the game seem most suspicious. So

1. Is it Blotunga for wrongly assuming Joe told us the night kill target when he didn't?

2. Is it SupplementScene for not posting for much of the first week?

3. Is it Trent and Hypersomniaclive for ganging up on SupplementScene, even after Scene refuted all their points?

4. Is it Pooka for jumping on well established wagons?

5. Is it SPF for never posting?

6. Is it ZFR for picking an unpopular SupplementScene for a quite unreasonable criticism?

7. Or has someone else acted suspiciously that I've missed?

Those are the questions you've goto ask yourself

I don't think he's an idiot, I think it's a genuine slip. Slips happen, that's the whole point of this game.

This is what made me first so suspicious and not relating. Because saphire and Zephyr does not seem close enough for mistake. Well after failing same as him I understand now how people can be off trail.

Still SPF. Same reasons as yesterday. Yes, he posted something more than pure jokes today, but still gives me the impression of coasting by on minimal effort. Could be him being sick though.

Then Scene. I've cut him some slack because I wanted to observe whether his changed MO is due to him learning or due to him being scum. Also because he wasn't on the mis-lynch train yesterday. He actually defended Fran. But then again that might be an attempt to gain town points and re-reading it, it almost reads as if he knew that Fran was town. In conclusion: he keeps looking somewhat off.

Pooka. Still his 'random' vote creating a wagon out of nothing and his focus on a serial killer. Which, in spite of his explanation, still strikes me as odd. I mean it would be sensible to assume a SK if we had had two kills. But with no night-kill at all the assumption of two killing factions is just really off. Unless he knows something that makes that assumption valid. And then his wish to find out who the NK target was. Almost as if he wonders whether the regular mafia targeted the same person as him, the SK...


As ZFR said, the story is irrelevant to solving the game. It is just decoration. Imagine we're at a birthday party playing Cluedo. The candles, cake and confetti in the room may make a nice background, but they won't help you find out who the murderer was. That question can only be solved by following the clues in the game.
Same here: you analyze the words of the PLAYERS. Try to find out who lies. The ROLES (Koro Koro Tank etc.) are completely irrelevant to that. You are welcome to roleplay, if you want. But most of us don't and therefore it won't help you to try to analyze any of the other players on the role-level.
Since you really are new and still a bit confused about how the game works, I'll cut you a bit of slack and just observe how you develop. But for now:

unvote Korotan


So. You didn't read the OP at all? The Zephyr is right there in the player list. And the 'scene' in the sentence you quoted is quite obviously not a reference to a player. Which you know. You trying to twist that, implying that blotunga should have taken that as a reference to you, is really stretching it.

vote Scene

And no...
...THAT is not the reason! It is, however, interesting that you pick out the most nonsensical reason to suspect you to show how un-suspicious you are. While ignoring the more substantial points of suspicion directed at you. That list of reasons to suspect certain players, including you, looks very LAMIST!

Inb4 blotunga actually did slip and you called him an idiot twice :D


I like how you cite this as the only argument against you.

Haha, yeah. Thanks, it's been corrected.


It is possible for the same role modifier to be used on more than one role.
It's possible for a single role to have more than one modifier.

It actually was the main reason. I was also accused of buddying upto Blotunga who I voted for, albeit in the form of a shot, that I reminded Joe about. Doesn't that sound contrived? There's evidence of me finding Blotunga's analysis to sound suspect after my vote on him that cemented that vote.

And the other criticism was coming across too friendly on the first part of Day 1 as if there was any major moves to observe anyway. The major criticism was, 'why weren't you as active'.

And yes I did suggest substituting out the player who was clearly not actually playing. Joe didn't think he could get a sub though so fair enough of hammering her.

No! No no no. Youre missing my whole point

Even if he did slip, I don't think he's an idiot. That's becaise *I* do believe he made the Zephtr/Safir mistake, so if it was a slip then it was a legitimate slip that anyone can make.

Scene repeatedly says he doesnt believe the zephyr/safir and that if anything this was just somerhing blotunga came up with later. Ergo blotunga just out of the blue announced Im the target. Now that is a pretty idiotic slip.

I mean that I am preoccupied with the existence of one like JMich was, but unlike his scenario, I actually don't know if there's a SK or not - my focus on the SK stems from caution rather than knowledge.

Agreed that slips do happen. But if I was benefiting from the existence of a SK, it would be in my interest to be quiet about it. With the current situation, it would work best as I am the only one wondering about the hypothetical SK.

I'm leaning towards scum, if merely for continually making joke posts only to address something that was said several posts before. This reeks of scum going in late after an argument against a player (myself) was established. However, he keeps saying his usual modus operandi is lurkiness, and given the Secret Hitler game, I'm willing to give him that. He was also reading into blotunga's confusion of Zephyr with Safiros.

However, the one thing to say in his favor is that he is consistent about himself "not catching up," evidenced in Post 173, implied in Post 192 by mentioning how most of the discussions he skimmed were about the voting mechanics Post 200, Post 264, and his response to a question by HSL about catching up was "A gentleman never tells." in post 370. This consistency is in his favor, but I'll admit that his delay in posting that I've been opportunistic for voting on scene doesn't really do much to keep him in the clear.

As for who I'm going to ISO next, probably scene, and if not I'll probably have to resort to the RNG. With the exception of Korotan and maybe blotunga, all the players are fairly active.

I'd like to believe that the SK would not oust themselves that brazenly (unless there happens to be some role shenanigans that allow the mafia two night kills). What strikes me as odd is why there is no NK, thought not for the reasons you state (besides, if I were the SK himself, being publicly cautious of one doesn't do me any favors). I fear the only way we'll know what happened on Night 1 is after the game ends.