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I would like to announce that I have decided to boycott GOG for 2021. This is in response to several decisions the site has made over the past year that I believe have been deeply misguided:

Firstly, the continued slippage of GOG's DRM-free values. The promise of 100% DRM-free is what the site was originally founded on and yet GOG seems to be allowing this principle to be increasingly eroded. The games Absolver and Dying Light are two examples of games that include single-player DRM and there are several more listed here. GOG is aware of these games, but has apparently made no effort to address them. CDPR also seem to continue to believe the rules on GOG don't apply to their own games, firstly with Gwent and more recently the DRMed single-player rewards built into Cyberpunk. In addition, GOG's recent deal with Epic appears to be a cover for GOG to start selling DRMed games. This is clear from the fact that GOG is providing technical support for DRMed 'EGS' games sold via Galaxy.

Next, the continued heavy pushing of Galaxy and the lack of maintenance of the offline installers. Several times in recent months, GOG has given incentives only to Galaxy users in the form of bonus content or free games. This has the effect of making non-Galaxy users feel like second-class customers. Also, there many well documented cases of GOG neglecting to update offline installers (refer to the list here), even though they are updating the Galaxy versions, so they clearly have the updated files. This is not acceptable - offline installers are the core of the DRM-free concept. All of this points to a worrying trend which may ultimately lead to GOG abandoning offline installers entirely and making Galaxy mandatory.

Lastly, the recent debacle with Devotion. I won't repeat everything that has been said about this in other threads, but GOG's decision to be complicit in imposing Chinese censorship on non-Chinese users is simply unacceptable. The game needs to be released on GOG immediately.

The wishlist request for Devotion can be signed here.

Actions I would like to see GOG taking:

1) Release Devotion immediately.
2) Remove Gwent from GOG.
3) Remove DRM from the bonus cosmetics in Cyberpunk.
4) Address the games on this list that are currently sold on GOG, which include non-cosmetic DRM. The developers in question should be given a warning to remove the DRM asap. If not heeded, the games should be de-listed. This includes the games Absolver, Dying Light and Carcassone Tiles and Tactics.
5) Address the other games on the above list that include locked cosmetics.
6) Cancel the deal with Epic.
7) Stop providing free games/incentives only to Galaxy users.
8) Assign adequate resources to maintenance of the offline installers (some signs of good progress have now been seen on this issue - as of 4/15/2021).

For me to make any purchases on GOG this year, #1 needs to happen and at least a couple of the others. I.e. I want to see clear signs of a change in trajectory of the site, away from it's current misguided direction towards being a weak Steam competitor and back towards the principles it was founded on. I had been planning to spend $150-200 on GOG this year, but instead I will be spending that at Zoom Platform, to help build up a viable DRM-free alternative store.

Is anyone else intending to boycott GOG? Who is with me?

Update 1: Below is the response from GOG staff to a user who asked why they were not doing anything about the games on GOG that are listed to include DRM (if we need any more proof about GOG's total apathy regarding DRM-free):

All games available on GOG have offline installers available. We stay in touch with the partners and do our best to keep them up to date. However, video games continue to evolve with many titles offering online modes, cosmetics, and incentives for completing certain actions by players. This might be subjective, but as long as these additional features and rewards do not affect the single-player offline experience in a major way, we believe that the developers and publishers should be free to design and sell their games in a way they choose.
Update 2:

To provide a standard answer to the many people who have said they won't join the boycott because they don't think a boycott by a limited number of users can be effective against a large corporation, this article provides a list of many successful consumer boycotts. Also note that GOG users have successfully boycotted in the past over issues such as Galaxy being bundled with the offline installers. This is not a hopeless cause. Claiming it is so is false and nothing but a convenient excuse for those that want to sit on their hands.

People who are boycotting, to whatever degree they're comfortable with:
1) Time4Tea
2) Lifthrasil
3) mrkgnao
4) joppo
5) kdgog
6) Ancient-Red-Dragon
7) ReynardFox
8) Seceroth
9) TencentInvestor
10) pearnon
11) Leevi
12) gloombandit
13) fronzelneekburm
14) MajicMan
15) Chaossaturn
16) john_hatcher
17) Grahor
18) Orkhepaj
19) rjbuffchix
20) B1tF1ghter
21) _Auster_
22) HappyPunkPotato
23) rtcvb32
24) Setilla
25) fr33kSh0w2012
26) Hexchild
27) GreasyDogMeat
28) GlorFindel
29) Vendor-Lazarus
30) DevotedTitan
31) Zegpi
32) gargus
33) DrearierSpider
34) WeirdoGeek
35) Zorzy
36) Kohleran
37) plagren
38) Lesser Blight Elemental
39) Captainchicken84
40) dycaite
41) Amiko Novich
42) gloombandit
43) Agent-94
44) evilprotoss
45) TrueBlueGamer
46) faldofas
47) kaileena
48) ShadowXOR
49) Adoru
50) g00dbye
51) LordJF
52) nevasith
53) TormentFan
54) ApeKing
55) Dalswyn
56) aiMute
57) lazydog
58) Shendue
59) classic-gamer
60) nevasith
61) ResidentLeever
62) nightcraw1er.488
63) DesmondOC
64) AstralWanderer
65) Cavalary
66) hollibolli1970
67) sebastelian
68) FateIsOneEdge
69) theseawulf
70) A CRICKET RIDING A TUMBLEWEED
71) RETRON84
72) viperfdl
73) Mplath1
74) RichDude_2005
75) LtOin
76) granny
77) romulus16
78) KiNgBrAdLeY7
79) Arsen7
80) Firefox31780
81) 5P34R
82) EnforcerSunWoo
83) Enebias
84) shattenyagger
85) OldOldGamer
86) DeadCityResident
87) Kohleran
88) gargus
89) Serpens6
90) TheRPGenius
91) fraan11
92) Mplath1
93) Ragmand
94) Souffrir
95) Doomjedi
96) OldOldGamer
97) PirroEpirote
98) patrikc
99) Witch2Gog6


People who are sympathetic to the concept:
1) Breja
2) TerriblePurpose
3) morolf
4) DukeNukemForever
5) McMicroDonalds
6) WinterSnowfall
7) flanner
8) Dogmaus
9) GamezRanker
10) PirroEpirote
11) Paliper
12) W3irdN3rd
13) FiatLux
14) MasterW
15) InSaintMonoxide
16) Jorev
17) TheDcoder
18) shih1976
19) Djungelurban
20) Wishmaster777
21) Kyousuke
22) Darvond
23) The_Puppet94
24) Zrevnur
25) sanscript
26) DebbieL
27) jorlin
28) arrua
29) llamas
30) dick1982

(current as of post #2346)
Post edited May 09, 2021 by Time4Tea
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Nope.
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Time4Tea: Is anyone else intending to boycott GOG? Who is with me?
I can certainly see why someone would choose to do so. I'm not going to boycott them, however, as long as they still offer DRM-free offline installers with no mandatory clients. That being said, I've long since stopped my "I'm not sure if I'll have time to play this game, but let me buy it here to support GOG" behavior, mostly because of the concerns you've also highlighted.
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Time4Tea: 6) Assign adequate resources to maintenance of the offline installers.
I doubt anything is going to come out of this, of course, in terms of GOG doing anything to address your concerns, but just as a guideline on how to approach things in general, you probably need to define a metric here and be more specific. As far as we know, what is currently in place is already considered "adequate" by GOG.
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Time4Tea: I want to see clear signs of a change in trajectory of the site, away from it's current misguided direction towards being a weak Steam competitor and back towards the principles it was founded on.
Its goals are more likely to become "a store to rule all stores", by using Galaxy as a gateway to unify all your games, regardless of their source, under a single client. I see why someone would think this idea has merit, perhaps it even does have merit in the grand scheme of things of gaining market share, it's just some of us don't care much for clients of any sort. And that's one of the main reasons we are buying games here.

Regardless of our preferences, it can't be denied that the majority of GOG's resources are being invested in pursuing this goal.
Post edited January 05, 2021 by WinterSnowfall
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nah
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Just be careful with Zoom platform, it is like GOG a company and companies will in the end do what's best for business so they would also eventually do what is best to make the business grow.

Humble Bundle is an example as at first they were heavily into DRM free games and bundles, today they are much much bigger but now most released games and bundles are Steam Key exclusives with DRM free being a rare commodity.
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You have quite a point but, as a gamer that wants to buy and play games, I'll still stay with "the lesser evil" aka GOG...

I might anyway try to purchase more things on itch.io instead of here, but I won't boycott what currently is the best option for a store, despite its downfall.

Good riddance! And let's wish at least some of your claims are listened.
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Good Luck boycotting GOG yourself.
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Time4Tea: Is anyone else intending to boycott GOG? Who is with me?
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WinterSnowfall: I can certainly see why someone would chose to do so. I'm not going to boycott them, however, as long as they still offer DRM-free offline installers with no mandatory clients. That being said, I've long since stopped my "I'm not sure if I'll have time to play this game, but let me buy it here to support GOG" behavior, mostly because of the concerns you've also highlighted.
At the start of 2020, I was taking the position that I would ignore sales and buy games at full price to support GOG. To say they have 'lost my goodwill' would be quite an understatement.
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Time4Tea: 6) Assign adequate resources to maintenance of the offline installers.
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WinterSnowfall: I doubt anything is going to come out of this, of course, in terms of GOG doing anything to address your concerns, but just as a guideline on how to approach things in general, you probably need to define a metric here and be more specific. As far as we know, what is currently in place is already considered "adequate" by GOG.
That one is a bit hand-wavy, I agree. I guess I would like to at least see some progress with the backlog of offline installers being brought into line with the Galaxy versions.
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wolfsite: Just be careful with Zoom platform, it is like GOG a company and companies will in the end do what's best for business so they would also eventually do what is best to make the business grow.
I think the problems generally start when companies go public, as opposed to 'companies' more generally. Anyone I buy games from over the internet is unavoidably going to be a 'company'. I am inclined to give ZP the benefit of the doubt, given they haven't done anything to betray my trust.
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Time4Tea: Is anyone else intending to boycott GOG? Who is with me?
Nope. So when u posting a "Im leaving GOG..." thread?
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See ya. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
It's your opinion, so you should do what you think is right. But we really do not need yet another thread about the same thing.

On the other hand, I like GOG and I am patiently awaiting for them to release all 4 RHEM games and Axiom Verge so that I can replay them all :)
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Time4Tea: Is anyone else intending to boycott GOG? Who is with me?
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Niggles: Nope. So when u posting a "Im leaving GOG..." thread?
I'm not going to leave, but I am going to boycott for this year. I will continue to hang around in the forum, as there are some interesting discussions going on. I will reassess at the end of 2021, depending on what happens over the course of the year.
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Nope not gpoing to stop buying games in 2021.

Also if you are going to stop buying games here on principle then you need to stop buying from Origin, Uplay , Bethesda, Epic as these companies have done just as much or if not worse than what has happened here.
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Time4Tea: That one is a bit hand-wavy, I agree. I guess I would like to at least see some progress with the backlog of offline installers being brought into line with the Galaxy versions.
I'm tracking the discrepancies and all I can say is that it's gotten somewhat better these last months, but some older issues are still not solved. It may very well be developers at fault there, not sure. My point being, don't grab any pitchforks just yet, it (genuinely) seems they are trying to improve on this point.
Post edited January 05, 2021 by WinterSnowfall
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Time4Tea: I want to see clear signs of a change in trajectory of the site, away from it's current misguided direction towards being a weak Steam competitor and back towards the principles it was founded on.
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WinterSnowfall: Its goals are more likely to become "a store to rule all stores", by using Galaxy as a gateway to unify all your games, regardless of their source, under a single client. I see why someone would think this idea has merit, perhaps it even does have merit in the grand scheme of things of gaining market share, it's just some of us don't care much for clients of any sort. And that's one of the main reasons we are buying games here.

Regardless of our preferences, it can't be denied that the majority of GOG's resources are being invested in pursuing this goal.
Just to be clear, I don't have a problem with the existence of the Galaxy client, for those that want it. What I do have a problem with though is the continued heavy incentivizing; the neglect of the offline installers and of course if there are ever any moves to try to make Galaxy mandatory. I also dislike the fact that GOG are pouring such a huge proportion of their resources into it and neglecting, for example, the website.