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joppo: Lift I am curious to know who you would have investigated in the last night if you had decided to try using your PR.

Now that we know the result is a scum victory we can say it didn't rely on this choice, but If Town had won this decision could have changed the game a lot.
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Lifthrasil: I would have investigated Microfish.
Then it means things could have gone a lot different. Micro was Shy; your action wouldn't just fail, it would have caused Micro's to fail too. He wouldn't be sure of Pooka's scumminess at early D4, and the day would have played completely different.
At least that is what I was thinking when I received Micro's night action and assumed Micro's certainty would convince you he wasn't the enemy. In that scenario I was imagining, your decision to skip the Night action could have been the salvation of Town.

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GamezRanker: If you don't mind and have time(and Joe is ok with it), why not just copy it all to where you backed up the old game QTs?
(I'm guessing then Joe wouldn't need to mess with permissions and etc)
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PookaMustard: Do you mean to QT? It's not accepting any more new posts. And copying it as is would be hell as Proboards is a different beast compared to QT.
GR is talking about the chat backups. It might be easier to read a copy you'd have saved than getting to the original board only a few of us can reach.
Post edited December 06, 2021 by joppo
Now, I was giving the setup some thought. I liked many things about it, like the Shy and Original modifiers. A Town made of nerfed cops is definitely a cool and unusual idea. But I see two downsides that need a lot of tweaks to make it better.

First of all, it's the fact that, while this setup is swingy, it can only swing for Town. In one Night, if all the night actions go as Town desires they get 2 full investigations outing scum. (They already got half that in N1 with Micro picking Yog. Made Pooka's life much harder the rest of the game)
Whereas, if all night actions go as best as possible for scum, it just means that Town starts next Day with one less player. Not exactly balanced.

@Micro: that is why I told you that scum had a tougher time than Town and why I was hoping for a scum victory. Because cheering for the one who is already posed to win is usually boring.

The second downside is the fact that in this setup most cop Nerfs rely on the townies stepping on each others' toes. One misguided action can invalidate what would be useful investigation by a Shy, Original or Conditional cop. And that is desirable because, as Lift said a while ago, a game where everyone can investigate would be short and boring. But that also means that, the further the game goes, the likelihood of an investigation succeeding goes up because there are less feet stepping on their teammate's toes.

And that is a problem because it risks the resolution being "I investigated the last scum, lynch us both", which isn't really good for the game. Thankfully it didn't happen this game. 3-players standoffs are much more interesting and every team holds a chance to win.
Post edited December 04, 2021 by joppo
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PookaMustard: I honestly didn't mean to distract from it, but more like "scumhunt" by going after GR who I figured would be the target of my Town ire for the next day, and figured that as long as Micro-Yogsloth is ongoing, that wagon won't go away so I can focus on GR too and do a lot more.
I guess it wasn't too helpful when a number of the remaining players started leaning/locking me as town, huh? ;)




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joppo: GR is talking about the chat backups. It might be easier to read a copy you'd have saved than getting to the original board only a few of us can reach.
Yes, this is exactly what I meant.....also screencaps/screenshots(several if need be, if one per chat page is too large/long) would likely be easier to do than copying the text manually.
Post edited December 05, 2021 by GamezRanker
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yogsloth: ...
From scumbuddy to scumbuddy, is there anything I should've done better? If you were in my place, would you do the stuff I did?
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yogsloth: ...
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PookaMustard: From scumbuddy to scumbuddy, is there anything I should've done better? If you were in my place, would you do the stuff I did?
I mean, you won the game, so hard to critique anything too harshly!

The only thing that I noticed was in F3, it seemed like you naturally wanted to cast some shade on Lift that he could be scum even after fish clear-copped him... which is not mathematically possible.

That's scum instinct showing through to try and keep your options open, and had I been a townie with you in F3, I would have picked up on it.

One fish cleared him as Town, the only possibilities are that fish is town and lift is town, or fish is mafia and lift is town. There's no possibility, barring godfather or insane shenanigans, where fish is town and lift is mafia.

Otherwise, whatever gets you over the finish line is a job well done.

And you can thank Lift for out-leveling himself lol
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yogsloth: And you can thank Lift for out-leveling himself lol
Yep. That's me. No one is better at fooling me than I am myself! ;-)
the bizarro network's public now, sorry it took so long to get round to it
Can anybody reading this go to the observation board and try and read and share cult secrets?

and let me know how you get on?
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JoeSapphire: Can anybody reading this go to the observation board and try and read and share cult secrets?

and let me know how you get on?
If you tell me exactly what you need and point me in the right direction I'll try it. If you are extra nice about it I can try even more stuff ;*
Post edited December 07, 2021 by dedoporno
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dedoporno:
https://whyquicktopicwhy.proboards.com/

do your best, let me know how it goes!
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JoeSapphire: https://whyquicktopicwhy.proboards.com/

do your best, let me know how it goes!
Well, I have no idea what you want me to do. I saw that your last message is referring to cult secrets but from my perspective there aren't any visible. Or I don't know where to look for them. I only see the one thread.
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dedoporno:
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JoeSapphire: https://whyquicktopicwhy.proboards.com/

do your best, let me know how it goes!
I was shocked!

:0000
My gosh, I wish I'd never seen those.
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dedoporno: Well, I have no idea what you want me to do. I saw that your last message is referring to cult secrets but from my perspective there aren't any visible. Or I don't know where to look for them. I only see the one thread.
Isn't.

That.

interesting??



what do you see here pleazse?
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JoeSapphire: Isn't.

That.

interesting??



what do you see here pleazse?
Too terrible to describe. :0000