This feels like scum-reading for the sake of scum-reading, Lift. Micro came out super strong in his very first post of Day 2 and placed a vote at the same time. Except for straight up claiming he had an investigative result (which happened in his second post of D2), what else would you want or expect a Town!Micro (or any Townie for that matter) to do?

I'm reading excitement here, because how often does one get an actual scum result from a Cop-type investigation?

Everybody is a psychoanalyst. You had your PM (both of them), Lift's Post 20 claim, Dogmaus' claim, and Catte's claim to establish a pattern before Yog's claim. Some of the rest of us didn't see Lift's Post 20, but there's enough of a pattern established to reach the conclusion without much effort.

At this point, the only living player that hasn't explicitly claimed to be psychoanalyst (I believe; I haven't double checked) is Pooka.

Hey Pooka! You're a psychoanalyst too, right? "Yep!" Thanks man!
There, see? Everyone is a psychoanalyst. Yog's video was alluding to the clearly emerging pattern.

It is a pretty safe assumption that everybody also has one or more hidden modifiers. Scum will have them because they have scum traits, and town will have them because otherwise we'd all be cops and that's no fun.

Let's put this to rest, shall we? Would Yog's Networked Partner please verify?

It isn't me.

Here's some fishing for working powers, and I'm not biting. I investigated, but the result of my attempt can stay under wraps considering the current game state. That just leaves you, Pooka. Since you're fishing anyway, do you care to share?

You're speculating that Yog might be a Town Mason (which we can easily get verified by having his partner claim Mason too). That means Micro being Imaginative gives 2/All true results and 1 false result, and he just happened to get the one result that would mark Yog as scum.

I'd love to get all Networked claims on the board so they can be investigated by anyone who lucks into by-passing their fail condition. Scum would have a vested interest in avoiding such a claim because it outs the team if either one fails.

Your alternative speculation is that Yog might a killing role, and therefore Threatening, therefore scum.

Where's the information that Yogs isn't conditional coming from? What did I miss?

Hope things go smoothly for your dad by the way.

[out of game - yes, hope things go well for your Dad micro]

To be clear, I am not a mason. I am a psychoanalyst, full stop. That's all it says. I do not have any modifiers that have been expressed to me.

The whole silliness started when my PM for the 2nd go-round was literally identical to the first one.

I said so, and somebody else said they had the same thing, and then a bunch of people all started claiming psychoanalysts and it became obvious what the jig was. The first thing I thought of was that scene from that movie, and lo and behold, a good clip was available on youtube, so up it went. May f'n 10th.

N1 I investigated Bookwyrm. I got no result.

And that's all I got.

And now we're in a situation where one of three things is going to happen:

1) micro is mafia doing some sort of suicide gambit. You yeet me, then you yeet him tomorrow and we have to win in F3.
2) micro is mafia doing some sort of suicide gambit. We yeet him, I get NK'd, and then yay! not my problem anymore
3) micro is town and this is some horrible janky GOG setup crap, we yeet either of us and then the other and we lose

I'm not really willing to entertain option 3 being the case because I will get too upset

not nearly as upset as the game where everyone was mafia and only the first people to submit actions had them processed, and anybody that took time to think things through had their actions ignored but weren't told... nothing will ever piss me off that much, but this would still piss me off

So whichever is the case:

vote microfish

And if I do get yeeted today, obviously you have to get him tomorrow, and then in F3... well, let's just say I have zero surprise at which players are looking at this situation and trying to figure it out and which ONE player is just automatically "vote yogs, no questions on my end, thank you player I previously described as one of my top two suspects but never actually placed a vote for!"

*shrug* You basically got cop red-checked, no one has revealed any additional information about either of you, so one of you needs to go to demonstrate the truth. The way things read thus far in this game, I'm more inclined to yeet the Checkee than the Checker. If I'm wrong, then we've lost a Conditional and get to kill a scum on D3. If I'm right, then we did NOT kill a role that has a chance of identifying scum, and we make scum decide whether to risk letting the Checker survive N2 or hope there's enough doubt about this being a Scum-Scum ploy to get Micro lynched later.

I don't believe Micro is Imaginative. If you're both Town and Imaginative!Micro did manage to roll up exactly Murderous, Conditional, and Networked, then I'll take the loss, blame the setup, and move on.

I don't know. Would a mason come forward if we speculate that someone is a mason?
Not that this matters anymore since yogsloth directly crossed it all out.

Fishing? Dude, I didn't even get a fishing rod to begin with. I'm just taking what's already in the thread and working with them. But I guess it won't hurt to tell the truth.

I investigated GR last night. No results either.

I must have missed it, so...is there some hard confirmation that all killing roles are by default threatening? I checked again and there's even a one-shot qualifier. One-shot murderous but not networked sounds pretty much like the bizzaro recipe for a vigilante.

True, technically we don't have explicit confirmation on what constitutes a "Threatening" role.

Per Post 1, we know threatening roles are looking to control the vote; this is pretty obviously a reference to a team of threatening roles (a mafia team, if you will). Per Post 1, we know the non-threatening roles need to eliminate all threatening roles in order to win. Per Post 1, we know "threatening" isn't a modifier. Per Posts 393 and 396, we know that Non-Threatening roles don't have a separate declaration saying they are Non-Threatening (unless someone specifically queries the mod). Per Post 401, we know all modifiers will show up in flips.

Using the above information, I feel that a reasonable *assumption* is that the modifiers will indicate whether a player is Threatening or Not Threatening, therefore indicating which team that player is part of. If you think that a flip will not indicate when a Threatening role is eliminated, please say so.

Anyway.

I've provided my reasoning for my stance.
Micro has indicated he isn't planning on moving anywhere.
Yog has the expected, if not required, counter-vote. He's been quite chill about Micro maybe not being scum, but whatever.
Pooka wants to discredit the situation and look elsewhere.
Lift and Catte are going to sit and cogitate. GR seems to be doing the same.

That's all 7 of us. Let me know when something interesting happens, like those who haven't decided finally deciding. I'm going to try and shut up now.

Joe has finished wrestling with the deckchair he spent all day wrangling yesterday, and is enjoying the fruits of his labour, lounging inelegantly, sporting enormous sunglasses, taking on an unusual colour in the bizarro sunbeams.

2 - yogsloth - Microfish_1, Bookwyrm627,
2 - Microfish_1 - yogsloth, GamezRanker,
1 - GamezRanker - PookaMustard,

0 - Bookwyrm627 -
0 - PookaMustard -
0 - ettac orrazib si eman ym -
0 - Lifthrasil -
0 - No-Lunch -

Not Voting - ettac orrazib si eman ym, Lifthrasil,

yogsloth and Microfish_1 are closest to elimination at 2 votes away.

Joe gestures to the aerial votecount, as though to suggest he had some claim to it.


Joppo has been promoted to Vice Mod.

Or things like:
Why did Micro not report his supposed/claimed results on Yog along with his vote for Yog, but instead reported them in a new post 7 hours later?

And also, would a psychanalyst really get 3 qualifiers back?
(mine only gets 2 back if it works, and Lift's original Post 20 had only 2 qualifiers listed)

Knowing how much I fail in my guesses in these games, and how many times i've done the same thing before("leaped before looking")....do you really think this is out of the norm for me?

But then that's be lying, as I didn't know i'd hammered until I saw Micro's vote/unofficial vote count.

K :)

This tbh.....my feeling is that one or both might be scum.

I was trying to keep people from claiming ROLES(in case town had roles other than psychoanalyst).

You had results, and instead of posting them with your vote for Yog in Post 408 you posted them in Post 414 7+ hours after said vote post for Yog.

To me, that seems a tad suspect.

Speaking of: I hope your dad makes it through all that ok.

These reasons/reasonings are also part of why I hesitated(and still hesitate) to vote for Yog, and instead voted for Micro.

I never agreed to having my vices moderated. That wasn't part of the contract!

If Micro was so excited, why didn't he post said results with the same vote post(Post 408 iirc)? Why would he wait over 7 hours to post it?

Huh. And how would you know that?

Maybe because he was busy acting on said results instead of just claiming Maybe because he didn't want to reveal "Hey, my role can find scum!" if he didn't have to. Maybe he was distracted by issues with his dad.