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Lifthrasil: @GR: what do you mean with 'Micro's lynch wouldn't have gone through'?
My actual words were:
Since Micro's wagon wasn't going through(at the time) I became keen on a secondary plan of narrowing the player pool with a NL
Yeah, there was a chance the wagon would've gone through in time, but:

I started to wonder a bit if maybe Micro was telling the truth about being town, and if perhaps Catte was sliding under my scum-dar yet again. That, plus I wanted to try a bold/less predictable(for me)** play/move for once, and see what effect it would have on the game and where it would take us(town).

(**quite often I play it somewhat safe and/or second guess things in these games)

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Lifthrasil: You just didn't give him the chance. And no, time pressure ist not an excuse. We had ample time left.
Yeah, I maybe should've waited a bit longer to see what Catte would do...but as Catte themselves said, what's done is done. Now we wait and(if the game continues to D4) plan what to do in the future.
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GamezRanker: Yeah, I maybe should've waited a bit longer to see what Catte would do...but as Catte themselves said, what's done is done. Now we wait and(if the game continues to D4) plan what to do in the future.
When I said "what's done is done" I was referring to my position, not yours. You don't get to escape scrutiny for your actions by going "what's done is done". This is not a game of moving on and forgetting the past.
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ettac orrazib si eman ym: When I said "what's done is done" I was referring to my position, not yours.
I got that.....still, what you said fits the entire thing.....there's no undoing any of it.

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ettac orrazib si eman ym: You don't get to escape scrutiny for your actions by going "what's done is done". This is not a game of moving on and forgetting the past.
If you mean other players suspecting me because of my hammer, then of course....that's to be expected. If you mean criticism of my hammer by other players, that's also to be expected and I even touched on that at the end of the post where I cast my vote. Essentially, if people want to criticize my recent move or scrutinize/suspect me over it, then so be it.
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GamezRanker: You seem to forget one thing: most of my crumbs were written/placed BEFORE the reboot

Back then(as I said earlier in the game, maybe even a few times) I didn't know so many were psychoanalysts & figured I had lucked out with a good role, so I decided to crumb it....and subtly to avoid scum possibly seeing it and thinking of making me the NK(due to it being an investigative role).

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(To all, please read!)
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We now know the following with certainty.....Yogs was one of the scum post reboot, and Lift was one pre reboot(we dunno about his status now, obviously).

So, given the above(and the likelihood this is a 2 scum game), it seems(key word) Micro is suggesting the following: that I was/am scum pre and post reboot(as I started crumbing my role back then), and also chose to derpily out my own scum mate pre-reboot(Post 21 iirc) while Lift and the OP were trying to hide what Lift had posted originally in Post 20(to avoid a need for a reboot).

And that then in my "cleverness" as scum, I then: LOUDLY hammered a town on D1, helped to hammer Yogs on D2(while planning to then run the scum game alone afterwards), and then very visibly hammered another possible town on D3.

Do any of you think that makes a lick of sense, or that i'd be capable of pulling all that off if it did?
I... never thought about your alignment in game 1. it literally has 0 meaning to me, because as far as we know, every single alignment of every single player was shuffled or rerolled between games 1 & 2. ergo, your crumbs before game 2 means nothing for your current alignment. The same reason you were subtle (if town) are the same reason I did not speak up D2.
So, strike my thought that you crumbed on Game 0. That actually weakens your claim of "look at me, I'm town because i crumbed" that you have used to attack Dogmaus and defend that.
Also, i know of at least one person who talked about breadcrumbing multiple roles "just in case".

So, what i am suggesting is that you had crumbs. Game 2 (74.5) started. You might now be scum. As scum, you saw "my role hasn't changed, just my alignment. Isn't it grand I crumbed it? now i can claim that role!
Your "derpily out a scummate Game 74.0" is meaningless because Lift was scum and found his scummate. In game 74.0 you were, i assume, town.
Your game 74.5 has nothing to do with game 74.0 except helping to figure out that everyone was psychoanalyst. IOW, all that really changed was modifiers and alignments. Your crumbs are (let me say it again as i recall them) meaningless because they equally apply to scum GR & town GR--both town or scum GR is a psychoanalyst.

D1 you LOUDLY hammered town, defended by the fact that you had a grand, accidental-insofar-as-it-related-to-your-current-role breadcrumb.

I am ONLY claiming you might be scum post-reboot (74.5). IIRC, Lift outed Pooka in game 74.0? Anyway, that is what i picked up.

What I'm stating is that it is possible that your very D1 loudness confirmed you as town, your D2 scum-vote helped, and it all could have been based off of an accidental breadcrumb that met both your old and new role, but which was prepared by town!GR and is being exploited by scum!GR.

I honestly did not recall that Breadcrumbs were from 74.0, thanks for pointing that out.

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Lifthrasil: Damn. GOG ate another post. Annoying.

Short reconstruction of the post:

what's with the long Twilight in this game? @Joe: you there?


@Micro: small correction. In Game 1 I had a N0 result, but not really an action. I was just told by the mod that I had investigated Pooka and was told what result I got. I didn't have a choice whom to investigate.
I see, thank you for that correction. That is useful information that we (town) can benefit from.

@GR I am hopeful you are town. The same goes for Pooka & Lift.

My natural inclination is that
If Catte was town, than:
Lift or Pooka is scum
Pooka, because he so ably defended me, and Lift because he is such an effective arguer off of slim possibilities that Yogs is likely to seize (including WIFOM black-balling me with his lunch)
HOWEVER, I wanted the odd-ball possibility out there to a) see what you would say b) provide bragging rights for post game c) get people to think and either see veracity or foolishness in what i wrote.
I hope we got scum.

If not, and if you are town, i apologize and I'm sure scum are laughing at and thank me >:(

Well, hopefully this has been entertaining to the folks in observer chat, I know it has been for me!
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THANK YOU!
So, strike my thought that you crumbed on Game 0.
EBWOP: that you crumbed on game 2 (if it is game 1 &2) or, IOW game 74.5--what we are playing now, not what we were playing before Lift's results.

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ettac orrazib si eman ym: When I said "what's done is done" I was referring to my position, not yours. You don't get to escape scrutiny for your actions by going "what's done is done". This is not a game of moving on and forgetting the past.
Happy 4000!!
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Microfish_1: What I'm stating is that it is possible that your very D1 loudness confirmed you as town, your D2 scum-vote helped, and it all could have been based off of an accidental breadcrumb that met both your old and new role, but which was prepared by town!GR and is being exploited by scum!GR.

I honestly did not recall that Breadcrumbs were from 74.0, thanks for pointing that out.
Np....and yeah you're right. If I were scum(post reboot) I could perhaps see myself exploiting a prior town role(pre reboot) and it's crumbing.

That said, one of my bigger points with all that stuff earlier was this: do you(or anyone else) honestly think i'd really go along with Yogs self hammering and then try to carry the game alone if I were scum with him(especially after I tried similar and failed spectacularly in that prior game with Pooka)?

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Microfish_1: @GR I am hopeful you are town. The same goes for Pooka & Lift.
Me too. Yeah, Catte said "GL town" and all in their recent posts, but Yogs also said the same before Joe dropped the results...so i'm hoping that maybe Catte did the same(slim a chance as that likely is).

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Microfish_1: Well, hopefully this has been entertaining to the folks in observer chat, I know it has been for me!
It's also been somewhat fun for me, and provided some needed distraction from IRL as well. :)

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Microfish_1: I hope we got scum.

If not, and if you are town, i apologize and I'm sure scum are laughing at and thank me >:(
Speaking of: If you are town and live till D4, remember that all it takes is one misplaced vote by town on another town and then scum can swoop in and win the game, so be mindful of that.
Ouch this has been a looong twilight. A few days ago I had been sent all the info about everyone's roles and modifiers, I guess Joe was already predicting something like this could happen, but we didn't hash out specifics about my vice-mod duties.

Sorry everyone for taking this long to react but the hammer fell on a friday afternoon and at first I waited for Joe, then the weekend came and I was unavailable like it's usual for me during weekends. I was surprised to come and see the Night still hasn't started.

I suppose I should end the Day now if it's okay with everyone?

And should I set Night time limits and receive action choices and send results and whatnot? Or just end the Day and set the Night to " will last until Joe is back" ? I don't want to take over more of Joe's functions without knowing he is okay with it, but OTOH I want the best for the game and right now all this wait isn't doing it good.

@observer thread people: I guess I can try to set up an alternative to our sadly comatose QT. Please hold on a little further and make sure I can send you PMs.
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joppo: Ouch this has been a looong twilight. A few days ago I had been sent all the info about everyone's roles and modifiers, I guess Joe was already predicting something like this could happen, but we didn't hash out specifics about my vice-mod duties.
Is Joe still our guide through bizarro land(game mod), then? Or is he just busy IRL?
(Basically, will he be resuming his duties at some point or no?)

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joppo: @observer thread people: I guess I can try to set up an alternative to our sadly comatose QT. Please hold on a little further and make sure I can send you PMs.
Joe made QTs for this game? I figured he would've made something else, seeing as QT announced it's shut down awhile back and all.

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joppo: I suppose I should end the Day now if it's okay with everyone?

And should I set Night time limits and receive action choices and send results and whatnot? Or just end the Day and set the Night to " will last until Joe is back" ? I don't want to take over more of Joe's functions without knowing he is okay with it, but OTOH I want the best for the game and right now all this wait isn't doing it good.
I don't mind waiting a bit longer....maybe wait another 24 IRL hours and try to contact Joe, and if that doesn't work then make the EOD post for D3(with Catte's flip and flavor text and vote count and etc) & send everyone into N3?
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joppo: @observer thread people: I guess I can try to set up an alternative to our sadly comatose QT. Please hold on a little further and make sure I can send you PMs.
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GamezRanker: Joe made QTs for this game? I figured he would've made something else, seeing as QT announced it's shut down awhile back and all.
It's bit complicated, Joe did try something else at first but it did have unexpected problems so he whipped up one last QT that he certainly hoped would outlast the game. You'll know all the details as soon as you're dead or the game is over.

Despite your message I still am inclined to end the Day sooner rather than later, but let's hear what the remaining players think.

Edit: Also, I'd rather not create fluff for these EoD and Dawn posts and leave the story blank for Joe to plug his own later instead. He is the creative mind behind the story, not me. I'll gladly edit anything needed to accomodate whatever text he authors.
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@Joppo: Yes. Please end the Day. The Twilight has been too long already and I want to see that flip!

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GamezRanker: Joe made QTs for this game? I figured he would've made something else, seeing as QT announced it's shut down awhile back and all.
You mean, you didn't notice that the link you got was a QT link? ;-)

Joking aside, this reads quite like a LAMIST statement. "What? QT? I totally didn't know that and that must mean that I didn't get a link. Right?"
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joppo: Edit: Also, I'd rather not create fluff for these EoD and Dawn posts and leave the story blank for Joe to plug his own later instead. He is the creative mind behind the story, not me. I'll gladly edit anything needed to accommodate whatever text he authors.
Sounds good :)

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(bump plz)
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Lifthrasil: @Joppo: Yes. Please end the Day. The Twilight has been too long already and I want to see that flip!

You mean, you didn't notice that the link you got was a QT link? ;-)
TBF, I should make it clear that I'm talking about the Observer thread, thus NONE of the living players are privy to the QT link.

I will prepare the EoD post right away but I still wanna hear at least one more "yay" to make sure I'm following majority. (Pooka already told me it's okay with him)
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(@Joppo: Pooka is playing via PM? No fair ;D
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Lifthrasil: @Joppo: Yes. Please end the Day. The Twilight has been too long already and I want to see that flip!
Oh, NOW you're in a hurry? ;D

(jokes aside, I also wanna see that flip...sooner rather than later)

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Lifthrasil: You mean, you didn't notice that the link you got was a QT link? ;-)

Joking aside, this reads quite like a LAMIST statement. "What? QT? I totally didn't know that and that must mean that I didn't get a link. Right?"
And this reads as a quick easy chance to paint me as scum.
Note to self: vote Lift at start of D4.......I kid, I kid.

My own joking aside: it wouldn't be the first(nor likely the last) thing I post that's called such, now would it? ;)
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Lifthrasil: @Joppo: Yes. Please end the Day. The Twilight has been too long already and I want to see that flip!

You mean, you didn't notice that the link you got was a QT link? ;-)
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joppo: TBF, I should make it clear that I'm talking about the Observer thread, thus NONE of the living players are privy to the QT link.

I will prepare the EoD post right away but I still wanna hear at least one more "yay" to make sure I'm following majority. (Pooka already told me it's okay with him)
Yay!

Get on and kill me.