If I had to make a list now with no really much to go on I would have to pick these as my top three:

TwilightBard : Only two posts so far. First about playing with a stick and the second to point out dedo was interested in the mechanics and this would be a scum thing to do. So he is on this list because of the lurking and because I get the feeling he just picked something to post about to be seems and then back into hiding.


Bookwyrm627 - For thinking ahead about role speculation. He is looking forward to learning new information?

Hijack - His post 114- I picked him, because of his statement about another playing getting a pass and him being picked on. Scum or not it is not exactly nice to through someone under the bus for no reason.

But all in all I really do not see any major slips or tells so far.

I am sorry if I did something wrong and if so please remove me from the game Lift.

All I did was get a PM from her about a family emergency with a sentence or so about not being about to get online and to please let Lift know and she accepts what ever he decides to do.


This is the part of her PM that refereed to the game :

Will you please let LifthrasilI know I won't be following the Mafia game, so if he wants to replace me then please do. I will try to catch up when I am back online, but if he would rather just remove me from the game then that's okay.


She did not mention anything else about the game.

That's OK. I already stated, that I would have preferred a direct PM from her. But what is done is done and in any case it's not your fault if someone writes you instead of me. You just forwarded that message. So I see no reason to remove you from the game.

Of course, if she comes back, keep game discussions out of your regular chats. No rules discussions, no speculations, no questions like 'Hey, don't you think xy is behaving strange?' etc. But you know that anyhow, I'm sure. The best way is not to mention the game at all outside the game thread proper. That way you are on the safe side.


About removing her from the game, my suggestion would be to give her two more days. If she can't return then, we'll replace her. Is everyone OK with that? Or does it disrupt the game too much if someone has a 'licence to lurk' for RL reasons?

In this particular situation it seems dd's stress is such that she had to leave in a hurry with no idea of a return time, and that seems to say it is a pretty big emergency she is having to deal with. I would say replacing her would be the best option as when she does return a mafia game is probably not going to be something she wants to focus on for stress relief.

My post regarding you:

2) Robbeasy - Almost Power lurking except he puts a vote down. I realize he's out of town, but his post #47 reeks of unconcern.

I bolded the parts you are not reading properly.

lurking EXCEPT ......

I realize he's out of town.

Let me know if you have anything else that I can read for you. =)


Oh wait....you weren't intentionally rebutting me out of context were you????

It is entirely up to you. If you feel the game is getting bogged down and a player's absence might be a contributing factor, then it might be time to replace/modkill that player. I don't think it has reached that point yet, but if Day 1 ends without hearing from her, then I would suggest it would be time to make other plans of some sort.

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As for Sage's response, it seems legitimate enough. I am not crazy about how it happened, but I am less concerned about game related shenanigans than I was at first blush.

My new to 3 scum list is:
1) Dedoporno
2) flubbucket
3) TwilightBard

You misunderstand sir - i was merely pointing out you see fit to put me in the list, even while admitting I had perfectly valid reasons for my lack of of posting so far.

If you feel I have valid reasons, why list me at all? Out of context? I think not. I would have replied directly to the post, but there was much other stuff above it and i was at work so didnt have time to edit it down with the ole snip... comment i usually use.

At the time of my post you had made two posts. You have doubled that so I guess accusing you of Almost lurking was/is unfounded.

Playing some catch up now, starting around post 70. Looks like Things Have Happened (TM). I'll make my comments as I go along, and I probably won't add many "I think this too" statements if someone already said what I might have said. I'll think them though!

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It seems to me that town would find the mechanics to be at least as useful as scum, since townies can use it for process of elimination (scum presumably already know who the scum are). Mechanics seems like a key part of scum hunting; a townie that doesn't know cops give false reads every third day is hurt a lot more than a scum is helped by knowing the same.

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I generally find myself agreeing with dedoporno on this one (oh noez, player link? o.o). He (and I) are interested in variations on powers, not in who may or may not have what particular powers (that comes later). And knowing that someone (regardless of who) might be able to do one thing one day, but someone else can do it the next day, seems like really important information for town.

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This. We can joke around, we can speculate, we can level wild accusations, we can try to figure out what we know for sure. Programmer that I am, I like that last one.

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Then do we just wait for nightfall? Assuming only one anti-town team, then scum already has exactly what they need in order to win (identies of their targets). Town has to give out information, or we are just a bunch of individuals waiting to get killed.

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Easy answer: the last paragraph of OP: Read post 108 (dedo), and he goes ahead and answers it.
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Need to finish catching up first, and see if this is still what we are doing.

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Except...maybe a few certain questions weren't clarified (beyond a "maybe, maybe not :D").

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"For CHAAOOOSSSSS!" - Cultist, Dawn of War

Flavor note: If we're all there, and only cultists managed to stay awake, and I were a cultist, I'd have just slit the throat of every non-cultist and simply returned the heart. But that's just me.

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Not true. I had numerous "What about this scenario" questions occur to me while observing last mafia game, some of which I was pretty sure would have gotten me marked as scum regardless of my actual alignment.

I know that I, for one, would love to know whether this is a role madness type game, regardless of my role (even if vanilla) or alignment.

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Ah, so that's what this is about. Noticed it when I was backtracking, wasn't sure if she was getting a power, night had fallen or what. Looks like setup for a potential modkill.

Read post 127 (Lift): Yay, I was right!
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I went and re-read my PM, and you're right, it doesn't indicate possibly changing powers. Something else Lift said did though, but he might have just been screwing with me as we bantered. Or who knows? Maybe its just an excuse to re-assign a power role if the person gets mod-killed day one (like ddickinson might be. Haven't caught up yet so I don't know if she is still in the game).

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I don't know enough to win right now, so yep, I'm definitely looking forward to learning new information. Those who don't think ahead and behind those that do, and I'd love to be one step ahead of scum. Of course, maybe I'm painting too big a target on my back; something is itching back there.

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Okay, lets see if I can fit all this in one post.

I'll have to think about my list of three; the only name I've got down is Kryspyn, but that's because I mis-interpreted his FoS as a second vote on someone (rationally I don't hold it against him, I just need to finish informing the other part now). Maybe Hijack on account of his defensiveness?

No one really stands out yet.

<Screw it, too much happening right now for me to review my post before posting. If you see something wrong with it, let me know and I'll try to address it. Laziness may well be the death of me.>

I have to reread your lengthy post, but for now... p_O

That's pretty much my reaction to the whole post too...

I'm reading and following (in between fervantly following the Insomnia Sale) but not sure what I can add.
I'm not at all keen on Bookwyrm's further elaboration on the whole role situation (especially since he was the one who brought up the whole situation in the first place)

Still haven't had a chance to reread the thread fully and make a list of suspects, but I'll have a go now as I've got some time.

Right, I've had a re-read. I was not mistaken, there's not much that stands out but as we are making a list, here we are:

1) Twilightbard - For placing his vote on dedo pretty much out of the blue and for lurking quite a bit.

2) Dedo - For the various role talk and some other suspicious behaviour (the stuff about his PM, not realising about the artefact thing)

3) Bookwyrm - For starting the role talk and for continuing it in his last post.

These are all fairly low suspicions at the moment, no where near thinking of a vote yet.

I'm starting to consider the possibility of you and ddickinson being scum. First PM out of line and now nonsensical reasons?

Scum or not? For real?
Let me remind you that my statement was akin to scum hunting. If trent made such a statement, the fact Flub has not been mafia in a long while stands, and if they were scum in the same team it would be easy for them to push such a point for a lynch. But here we have you, with something that resembles an even weaker point that trent's. If he got scum points, you get double that considering the "Scum or not" remark.

Yes, because screw staying logical and have sense. We should let every preposterous point be valid. #yoloswagthisismytang

Artifact is usually a generic name for such an item. I haven't missed the word neither in the OP, nor in my PM (have it in both). What I was referring to is that in the game the anomalies may produce objects (I'm pretty sure they can be seen as physical manifestations of the anomaly's effect). These items are called "Artifacts". This is the "official" way they are being called. These objects give the user special abilities. Mostly passive, like resistances, increased health and such.

Considering I actually quoted a part of the OP, it's kind of silly to accuse me of not reading it. Funny how I was scrutinized for why I think the abilities may shift and when I quoted the OP things moved to PM confusion. Basically half of the people asked why do I believe such a mechanic may be in the game, when the OP clearly suggests it and the the very same people accuse me of not reading the OP. Curioser and curioser.

And here is person #3. There is no confusion at all. I'm perfectly aware what my PM says and there is absolutely no need of clarification. The thing is that so far other people have given more information away, while accusing me of the same.

By the way, my PM as well doesn't imply roles might change. The OP does If you go back and actually read the dialogue HSL and I had, you'll see he wrote that [his] PM doesn't leave room for speculation. Mine doesn't say anything about this, so the room for speculation is there.

So, the list so far:

1. RWarehall
2. CSPVG
3. JMich