If you think it's quite unlikely that he'll sway your mind I'd recommend simply nominating ZFR in order to speed the game up a bit. Your government is almost certain to pass either way.

I seriously doubt he would but I'd still like to give him the courtesy of waiting out the day.

No, the logic cannot be reversed. And you're thinking I am proposing an argument that I am not.
You are ignoring the fact that fascists (except hitler) know who everybody is, while liberals do not. The liberals in that group can only guess what side the people spearheading the efforts are. So they should be playing the same way whatever the distribution of liberals and fascists among active and inactive players is. And as far as they know, the more active players might contain a fair number of liberals. No need to be more concerned than when the game started.

The fascists on the other hand, do know. If they were noticing their combined low posting was letting only liberals dictate the whole game I would expect to meta read a bit of desperation. I can't find it in posts of any of these supposed fascists so I must assume the situation does not call for fascists be at that level of worry. Or the people I was looking at weren't fascists, which again loops back into "the 4 less active players are all fascists must not be true"

(Admittedly Cadaver posted so little I didn't even have a chance to metaread him so far. But the others did)

I never played SH before, but I watched the last game. Joe was hitler back then indeed.
I am not sure I could point much about his behavior back then to highlight any differences. If anything, he was... bland. Not particularly aggressive. (It makes sense since hitler can't appear fascist no matter what.)
But take that with a grain of salt. It was literally the first game I was watching. I wasn't even a Mafia newcomer at the time and didn't have anything to gauge him by. So maybe I didn't notice some "tell" I could see nowadays.

Sorry to hear about that. I'm hoping your issues and their health will improve soon.
It's weird to have so few posts from you. I guess your stuff must be very important. Good luck with it all.

I was downvoted in the 'good news' start of the year thread. And for a while my posts in the 'Drmed single player games' thread were also downvoted. But I just checked. They are back to normal now. So probably some counter bot from is doing it's thing too. I thought Scene hat seen some downvoting in other threads.

I don't want to read stuff like this.

zrr snaked us with a trick question, but that's because he's a lovable rogue. He's also a really good statistician and Big Brain, but whether he is or no doesn't have any bearing on the game.

Even if it did have bearing on the game I'd want you to talk about it in respectful language.

BLAND???

I'm going to be away the weekend sorry. I probs won't get a chance to play till sunday night now.
ta-ra!

Have a good one Joe

If there's anyway you could vote Yay or Nay beforehand, please consider it.

Well Dedo hasn't officially nominated yet so the election can't start and the votes can't drop.

I suppose Joe could send Micro a preemptive "In case Dedo nominate players X, Y, Z or me my vote is YES. Anyone else, NO." Of course, it's up to Micro if he will accept that vote.

I guess not.


I nominate ZFR as Chancellor.

It struck me odd too. Regardless of the math, the leap in logic of 'ZFR doesn't know probabilities, therefore he is "fascist who's playing dumb"' seems weird.

Makes me wonder if he is fascist trying to divert the nomination to someone else. And with the other viable candidate being Pooka, that could be an indication that he's fascist too. So maybe it is after all the trio of inactives. Like a fascist sleeper (literally) cell in our midst.

Nooooo You're the most unbland player I ever played with.

Dedo has Nominated ZFR as Foreman. Please send in your votes!
You may vote yes or no. Vote via PM.

Yes, maxleod's reasoning is seriously flawed. But the question is, is it intentionally so? I agree that he could be fascist. Him getting handed 2F is NAI, so all alignments are still possible. But it is also possible that his reasoning is genuinely flawed and that he believed what he wrote.

My apologies.....as I said, I find it hard to puzzle some of the game mechanics posts/chat out(more so than Mafia, which i've gotten a better handle on over time), so I tend to not reply to such posts (which is a good number of them, it seems) much. Add to that I also skim a good deal of stuff either for time(IRL time constraints).

That said, feel free to suspect me if you want....I don't mind....in fact I think it a sound strategy(suspecting unknown faction players in general.....I do it in mafia a good deal) :)

Short answer: I irked/bothered a (now banned) user here awhile back, and they built a small contingent of users around them to low rate me and others(and sometimes threads/topics) they dislike.

It's a life long condition...thankfully it's not too bad, but it does mean I have to help out more around the house and whatnot.......that said, thanks for this.

I believe i'm actually getting downvoted into Morrowwind as of late ;)

Sounds like a plan.