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NWN_babayaga: to downvote peoples oppinions gives them the tingling i have when i watch porn!
remember that itch I was talking about, might explain the tingling. :P
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NWN_babayaga: to downvote peoples oppinions gives them the tingling i have when i watch porn!
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darthspudius: remember that itch I was talking about, might explain the tingling. :P
We don't get along....but that was damn funny. Have a +1 from me. lol
Now would be a good opportunity for GOG to open their doors "just a little wider" to the indie community, rather than letting more of the market go to Steam.
Post edited June 05, 2015 by Barry_Woodward
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darthspudius: remember that itch I was talking about, might explain the tingling. :P
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pimpmonkey2382.313: We don't get along....but that was damn funny. Have a +1 from me. lol
Thank you indeed. Here's something to note for future. Take the same attitude towards that specific joke and apply it to EVERYTHING I type. You probably won't argue with me ever again... or if you do it'll end up like a Monty Python sketch.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: We don't get along....but that was damn funny. Have a +1 from me. lol
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darthspudius: Thank you indeed. Here's something to note for future. Take the same attitude towards that specific joke and apply it to EVERYTHING I type. You probably won't argue with me ever again... or if you do it'll end up like a Monty Python sketch.
Keep posting like that, and I'll gladly get along with you. :D Watch me get downvoted now too.
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darthspudius: Thank you indeed. Here's something to note for future. Take the same attitude towards that specific joke and apply it to EVERYTHING I type. You probably won't argue with me ever again... or if you do it'll end up like a Monty Python sketch.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: Keep posting like that, and I'll gladly get along with you. :D Watch me get downvoted now too.
There is a weird thing that goes on where despite the fact that I take the piss out of EVERYTHING. Yet, people always take me so seriously. It's almost a little depressing. I hate being taken seriously! >_<
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Barry_Woodward: reconsidering certain worthy indies they've rejected
All depends on why they rejected them. While I suspect that GOG in some cases did have some bizarre concerns about "not being a good match", I have a feeling that others still may have been trying to encourage GOG to include Steam keys or allow "DRM-lite".

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Barry_Woodward: and maybe dabbling in some early access games.
No, no, no and NO!

It was specifically the Early Access concept that proved to be Desura's downfall, with many games not being completed and the storefront ultimately turning into a graveyard of such games. Even Steam is struggling with this concept, and as the wider community becomes acutely aware of the dangers involved in such endeavours, the willingness to invest is greatly diminished.

In short, no Earty Access without a contractual commitment to release a full and working product at the end of it and guaranteed refunds should the project not reach completion. And no developer will agree to that.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: Keep posting like that, and I'll gladly get along with you. :D Watch me get downvoted now too.
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darthspudius: There is a weird thing that goes on where despite the fact that I take the piss out of EVERYTHING. Yet, people always take me so seriously. It's almost a little depressing. I hate being taken seriously! >_<
I also think we should be rid of the voting system and go with a simple post count.
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darthspudius: Ouch! I think I'm about to rival tinyE on my daily decrease lol.
i saw somebody else with -46 rep
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NWN_babayaga: to downvote peoples oppinions gives them the tingling i have when i watch porn!
-49 rep is not bad...
he used to have -156
Post edited June 05, 2015 by snowkatt
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pimpmonkey2382.313: I also think we should be rid of the voting system and go with a simple post count.
While I agree that the rep system is a bad joke, I'm not entirely sure that getting rid of it is a great idea either.

It might not make a lot of difference to you and me, and it might make the fuckwits among us feel big and mighty for having clicked on that little red button, but there are a number of immature twits among our ranks who place value in the size of their e-peen, and the only thing keeping them in check is the threat of seeing "low rated" next to their post.

If we dispensed with it, we may find that active moderation suddenly becomes a necessity. Personally, I find the rep system is the lesser evil in this case.
Post edited June 05, 2015 by jamyskis
Thanks for the heads up about this. The question is what to do now. I have some games on Desura and a lot of keys for it which I haven't activated. The question is whether it's worth saving these games. I also have some Steam keys I can get from Indie Royale, and I guess it's time to at least get them and write them down somewhere.

(Yeah, that's what I do, buy bundles and never even look at them, never download or activate any games.)
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pimpmonkey2382.313: I also think we should be rid of the voting system and go with a simple post count.
in that case tiny P and me wil probably have a disgustingly high post count
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pimpmonkey2382.313: I also think we should be rid of the voting system and go with a simple post count.
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jamyskis: While I agree that the rep system is a bad joke, I'm not entirely sure that getting rid of it is a great idea either.

It might not make a lot of difference to you and me, and it might make the fuckwits among us feel big and mighty for having clicked on that little red button, but there are a number of immature twits among our ranks who place value in the size of their e-peen, and the only thing keeping them in check is the threat of seeing "low rated" next to their post.

If we dispensed with it, we may find that active moderation suddenly becomes a necessity. Personally, I find the rep system is the lesser evil in this case.
I say go with a post count. Or maybe a giveaway count to show people who do give back or contribute in a positive way.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: I also think we should be rid of the voting system and go with a simple post count.
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snowkatt: in that case tiny P and me wil probably have a disgustingly high post count
If I didn't take breaks, I'd probably be right up there with you guys. :P
Post edited June 05, 2015 by pimpmonkey2382.313
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pimpmonkey2382.313: I also think we should be rid of the voting system and go with a simple post count.
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snowkatt: in that case tiny P and me wil probably have a disgustingly high post count
That I would like to see. You two on top...
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ET3D: Thanks for the heads up about this. The question is what to do now. I have some games on Desura and a lot of keys for it which I haven't activated. The question is whether it's worth saving these games. I also have some Steam keys I can get from Indie Royale, and I guess it's time to at least get them and write them down somewhere.

(Yeah, that's what I do, buy bundles and never even look at them, never download or activate any games.)
To be honest, this is why DRM-free is so damned important.

The likely imminent demise of Desura may be fairly low profile, but it'll still be the biggest failure in the PC digital distribution market to date, and more will follow. The thing about Desura though is that it had no inherent DRM system - either you had Steam keys, which means you can migrate the game to Steam for the time being, or they were DRM-free, in which case you can download them for long-term storage.

Eventually it'll hit a platform with an inherent DRM system like Steam, UPlay or Origin, not necessarily through bankruptcy, but perhaps through changed priorities. EA may suddenly decide they no longer want to support PC, or Ubisoft may suddenly decide that DRM-free is the future and discontinue the UPlay service (I wish!).

With DRM-free platforms, at least you have some measure of control over retaining your games. You can download them and assume responsibility for keeping your own backups. If a DRM'd platform goes bye-bye, chances are that the games will be unrecoverable, at least without "external assistance" in the form of DRM circumvention tools.