Would you like to see the Gothic 1 notebook I just started? That in game journal is SHIT!

Doubt there's many GOG users like that considering there's no resale value on GOG games either.

Doubt there's many GOG users like that considering there's no resale value on GOG games either.

Also the "it's not a simple process for everyone". Sure, some people have issues. Other's don't. Some people have RRD's on their consoles and have to send it back for the 3rd or 4th time. Other's don't. It's not like consoles are exempt from this.


And I'm saying that both the Steam and GOG population probably don't consider that a significant factor at all. Sure, some whine and gripe about it but the fact that they buy on either service makes clear it's not a real big issue.

Those are good reasons, but I mainly love it for the fantastic deals. Gaming has never been this affordable before. Ease of use is a bonus. The client is not particularly clunky either. I love the cloud saves. Yeah, it's a damn good service overall.

I likw atwam for a couple of reasons. 1 sales, 2 having most of my new games on one playform,. 3 community items such as mods for some of the games.

Dont like basically online all the tme as offline mode dosent work great. 2 its a form of drm boo.

Ahem. Even GOG is. :)

It is simply what principles the digital store wants to uphold. I recall the quarrels that EA and Valve had before was because Valve wouldn't budge from its principle of letting 3rd parties sell the DLC for the "Steam" game, or some such shit. Valve demanded that any game sold in their store must let Steam handle the DLC sales too. Maybe someone remembers it better.

Valve could just as well have a principle that they will not sell games with 3rd party DRM, but they don't.

True, but then they'd have the same AAA title list that GOG has.
Never had that experience on the PC. It was "early home computer experience" for me. Mainly on my VIC 20 days. Later it was mostly "pop the cassette in the drive, type a load command and watch coloured stripes for several minutes".

There are no AAA titles like Skyrim with only Steam DRM (Steamworks)? Ok then... :)

As said, they'd actually have to stand for the principles they set. It could just as well said that Valve should had never started arguing about the delivery of DLC, then there would be more EA AAA games in Steam too, like Mass Effect 3.

Steam has set any principles at any point in time? O_o

Up until recently that wasn't exactly a difficult stance to uphold for GOG though, seeing a large amount of their games either use Dosbox or some other variant and GOG often need to rework the game anyway. There's little DRM left to speak of on the classic games that would still be anything but a bother at this point.

With the newer games I'm sure it's a bother sometimes now when they're asking for a game to be sold here. Indie games luckily don't have many issues there since they often tend to be DRM-free anyway.

Well, at least when it comes to profit. I think that is why they didn't want others handle the DLC for any games sold on Steam, giving up one of their profit channels to competitors without a fight.

Wasn't that the reason EA pulled and refused to sell some of its games in Steam anymore, because Valve didn't allow EA take care of the DLC sales?

That's what EA claims was the reason anyway. Of course a week or two after that it seems they already had an all new Origin with planned Origin exclusive titles ready to go, so the timing is suspect at best and just seems more like a convenient excuse.

Of course it makes sense that they want to keep DLC sales to themselves, they do a lot digital as well and they even had their own digital store.

As a Steam consumer though it's vastly preferable to be able to buy the DLC for the game you bought on Steam through Steam as well rather than go to Bioware and buy bioware points to be able to get the rest of the game.

For Steam profit wise it's also a lot more beneficial of course, in part just because of that, and I think more importantly it was from their move to F2P games, and the fact that more games were going the DLC route, which meant that in the long run, they could be selling new games dirtcheap through Steam, using Steam for bandwidth and support/patching, and reap the profits from the DLC sales that would follow. A business model like that simply doesn't make sense for Steam.

Huh? Often, you can get DLCs from different sources (altho it will not redeem on Steam,) or just buy them for Steam directly, like Skyrim DLCs.

True, but it is a double-edged sword. If GOG started allowing third-party, or any-party, DRM, how would they differentiate themselves from e.g. GamersGate or Steam at that point? I for one must admit that at that point I personally wouldn't probably see much of a reason to buy a game from GOG instead of e.g. Steam, if it is available in both, with DRM. What would be your reason to buy such a game from GOG instead of Steam?

If GOG felt that it would make sense for them to allow third-party DRM, I'm quite sure they'd do that. After all, they even introduced an optional downloader client, even though some people opposed even it.