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tinyE: I saw a bumper sticker today that read, "Voldermort is voting for Trump".
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TARFU: I say vote for the Giant Meteor.
[url=http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.169655226.5574/raf,750x1000,075,t,fafafa:ca443f4786.u3.jpg]Better yet[/url].
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Lin545: Trump has stated to end ISIS and improve relationships with RF.
Hillary has stated to support ISIS and further attack RF.
Pick your side.
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Gilozard: Are you drunk? Or just missing the /sarcasm tag?
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gamesfreak64: ??? I just googled and i cant find a guy called forrest thats running for POTUS 2016
anyway, imho all these who are trying to go for president while all the 'selections' have passed is a waste of tax payers money, thats why the whole way of voting is wrong, using senator who have their followers and these have people ....
Just allow only people to vote, senators and governor should be treated like a normal common voter just like in Europe.
Much easier, faster and most of all much cheaper.

That would be very nice , also lots of fun, unfortunately it is obvious who will win, you see if Trump accidentally farts while on tv, the MSM (all these left ones) would be all over him, complaining and telling how bad he is, the FBI and Homeland security (unless they are the same ) will be all over him and pointing the finger....

While shilary can do whatever she likes and gets away with it.... so boys and girls its all decided for you, you can vote but you can never win cause its all decided for you.
So the best way is not to vote, i stopped voting cause they always selected the party they want, and not the ones the people want. We are voting march 2017 and i can already tell you the oitcome of the election: 4 years or more (i dont know how many years they have in europe and frankly i dont care cause we have no saying in it, everything is bought, its pay to play everywhere even in Europe (just google and search for more email leaks regarding billioniares (not Trump) are paying millions to get a saying in the government.

Anyway, its al decided for us.... everything
if and i say if.... he gets elected and all goes well during the inauguration of the next POTUS, things might change, i think that only one thing has to change in order to wake the world up again:
and thats a new fresh POTUS and no continuing of 8 years of the same, with the only differnce the POTUS will be another person.

If a new coach continues coaching the team exactly like the guy before him did (keep losing) then replacing this coach had no effect, the newly assigned coach should take his own course, maybe continuing the basics , but add something new to it which might increase a chance to start winning matches again.
Thats what will happen if coach obama is replaced by coach hillary, or even coach stein, or other wannabes that run for presidency.
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Gilozard: You clearly need to brush up on your English, American references and understanding of the American political process before you post about the US elections again. There's so many misunderstandings in your post I don't even know where to start, and the obvious ESL problems aren't helping.
Thanks for the reply and thanks for lecturing me on the US politcal proces.
the problem is, i see so many US people complaining about almost anything they can complain about, they want changes but are just to politically divided which makes it near impossible to have changes at all.
US is complaining so , do something about it, rally together unite yourselves go out and vote and dont be afraid of changes, the Brexit took some guts to do it, they will have some bad years but at least they did something about it.
So, go out dont be afraid for changes and stop voting for more of the same, or stop complaining about everything.

With the referendum the dutch had on the ukraine stuff, people started to vote (not that it helped in anyway, cause the PM puts every results beside him if he doesnt like what the outcome was).
But we had our chance to do it, 60% said no, so that shows the people that showed up had the nerve to do something about it, instead of complaining about it only.
(i did not vote cause i know things never change, i wont vote on anything anymore).

Anyway, as for my 'bad english' i noticed only US and UK people always love to lecture anyone on spelling and bad english, while other non native english speaking people seldom make remarks like that, as for the US english, dont forget it is not the real British english cause there are too many differnces in pronounciation and words like color and colour to name one.
So please dont lecture me on bad english unless you are a British born and speak native british english and have a degree in it.
I will never laugh or complain or make remarks on anyones english, maybe thats because we europeans arent rude like you are.
Post edited August 23, 2016 by gamesfreak64
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Gilozard: Are you drunk? Or just missing the /sarcasm tag?
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Lin545: Yes, I went full retard mode here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
OK, all cool then. There are people who unironically spout similar stuff so yeah, I was unsure.
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Gilozard: Are you drunk? Or just missing the /sarcasm tag?

You clearly need to brush up on your English, American references and understanding of the American political process before you post about the US elections again. There's so many misunderstandings in your post I don't even know where to start, and the obvious ESL problems aren't helping.
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gamesfreak64: Thanks for the reply and thanks for lecturing me on the US politcal proces.
the problem is, i see so many US people complaining about almost anything they can complain about, they want changes but are just to politically divided which makes it near impossible to have changes at all.
US is complaining so , do something about it, rally together unite yourselves go out and vote and dont be afraid of changes, the Brexit took some guts to do it, they will have some bad years but at least they did something about it.
So, go out dont be afraid for changes and stop voting for more of the same, or stop complaining about everything.

With the referendum the dutch had on the ukraine stuff, people started to vote (not that it helped in anyway, cause the PM puts every results beside him if he doesnt like what the outcome was).
But we had our chance to do it, 60% said no, so that shows the people that showed up had the nerve to do something about it, instead of complaining about it only.
(i did not vote cause i know things never change, i wont vote on anything anymore).

Anyway, as for my 'bad english' i noticed only US and UK people always love to lecture anyone on spelling and bad english, while other non native english speaking people seldom make remarks like that, as for the US english, dont forget it is not the real British english cause there are too many differnces in pronounciation and words like color and colour to name one.
So please dont lecture me on bad english unless you are a British born and speak native british english and have a degree in it.
I will never laugh or complain or make remarks on anyones english, maybe thats because we europeans arent rude like you are.
Yes, native English speakers are more likely to tell others when they are not speaking correctly. That's because they use the language every day and are better at spotting incorrect usage. You won't make remarks about anyone else's English because you don't know enough to do that and you know it. It's not a character trait to brag about, it's ignorance (although I suppose being aware of that is admirable?).

No, 'British English' is not any more real than US English. US English speakers are native English speakers. They are different dialects, and both are equally valid.

Yes, Americans love to complain. International news sources should pay less attention to it, often it's more like a national sport and part of the political process than a decision or actual plan for action.
Post edited August 23, 2016 by Gilozard
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Well, i don't want Donald to win right now, either. He put water in his wine. Showed signs that he is clearly more interested in the president's chair, rather than to abide by his plan and promises. To be honest, i know many such little dick politicians, Europe side is so FULL of them! I dared hope Donald would have the guts to do even one, even the fucking MAIN, feature, of his plan. Now i know he won't. Truth be said, even if he was elected, even if he tried to, had he really went so far as to oppose FM and NWO plans or "sabotage" the right now ongoing "Kalergi plan", he would have been put down, either from the chair, or even from life (assassinations aren't used so sparingly when BIG plans are at stake, like, say, Brexit before).

Should that satan-granny Hilary, best friend of that warmongering demon Olbright, that good "humanitarian"
who bloodied Balkans so much before (and left a crapload of uranium there too, that our mercenary boys in service expose their life and health to danger by going there to collect the waste from that bombing years later), i really shudder at things that are going to come.
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gamesfreak64: Anyway, as for my 'bad english' i noticed only US and UK people always love to lecture anyone on spelling and bad english, while other non native english speaking people seldom make remarks like that, as for the US english, dont forget it is not the real British english cause there are too many differnces in pronounciation and words like color and colour to name one.
So please dont lecture me on bad english unless you are a British born and speak native british english and have a degree in it.
I will never laugh or complain or make remarks on anyones english, maybe thats because we europeans arent rude like you are.
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Gilozard: Yes, native English speakers are more likely to tell others when they are not speaking correctly. That's because they use the language every day and are better at spotting incorrect usage. You won't make remarks about anyone else's English because you don't know enough to do that and you know it. It's not a character trait to brag about, it's ignorance (although I suppose being aware of that is admirable?).

No, 'British English' is not any more real than US English. US English speakers are native English speakers. They are different dialects, and both are equally valid.

Yes, Americans love to complain. International news sources should pay less attention to it, often it's more like a national sport and part of the political process than a decision or actual plan for action.
I'm sure plenty of people can notice incorrect usage of English; I do, and I'm not even a native speaker. But do I go here and there telling people off because they don't really speak a good English? No, because that's just being a douche. The only times I make someone aware of a mistake and / or typo is either when it creates a comical effect or when it completely changes the original meaning, but it's always said in a light-hearted way, not like "Your English is terrible; fix it up before daring speak to me again." I don't really care if someone uses "its" instead of "it's"; sure, it's somewhat inconvenient for the reader but it's still readable, and a lot more so than when letters have intentionally been omitted (e.g. "u," "rly," "thx," etc.).

I'm curious of something, though: would you have told the same thing to a like-minded, liberal person? Or was it just a disguised and condescending insult aimed at the other school of thought?
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Lin545: Yes, I went full retard mode here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Gilozard: OK, all cool then. There are people who unironically spout similar stuff so yeah, I was unsure.
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gamesfreak64: Thanks for the reply and thanks for lecturing me on the US politcal proces.
the problem is, i see so many US people complaining about almost anything they can complain about, they want changes but are just to politically divided which makes it near impossible to have changes at all.
US is complaining so , do something about it, rally together unite yourselves go out and vote and dont be afraid of changes, the Brexit took some guts to do it, they will have some bad years but at least they did something about it.
So, go out dont be afraid for changes and stop voting for more of the same, or stop complaining about everything.

With the referendum the dutch had on the ukraine stuff, people started to vote (not that it helped in anyway, cause the PM puts every results beside him if he doesnt like what the outcome was).
But we had our chance to do it, 60% said no, so that shows the people that showed up had the nerve to do something about it, instead of complaining about it only.
(i did not vote cause i know things never change, i wont vote on anything anymore).

Anyway, as for my 'bad english' i noticed only US and UK people always love to lecture anyone on spelling and bad english, while other non native english speaking people seldom make remarks like that, as for the US english, dont forget it is not the real British english cause there are too many differnces in pronounciation and words like color and colour to name one.
So please dont lecture me on bad english unless you are a British born and speak native british english and have a degree in it.
I will never laugh or complain or make remarks on anyones english, maybe thats because we europeans arent rude like you are.
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Gilozard: Yes, native English speakers are more likely to tell others when they are not speaking correctly. That's because they use the language every day and are better at spotting incorrect usage. You won't make remarks about anyone else's English because you don't know enough to do that and you know it. It's not a character trait to brag about, it's ignorance (although I suppose being aware of that is admirable?).

No, 'British English' is not any more real than US English. US English speakers are native English speakers. They are different dialects, and both are equally valid.

Yes, Americans love to complain. International news sources should pay less attention to it, often it's more like a national sport and part of the political process than a decision or actual plan for action.
Same goes for you.... go try and see if you can 'master' the Dutch language :D ......... cause oh it is so simple to learn language .... try it you'll be suprised how hard it is, unless you'r a linquist.

Anyway enough words wasted on silly topics like people who think they are superior because they are born in the USA.



As for complaining, i dont know much about USA, you'r right on that one, maybe i know nothing at all about USA ( and maybe i dont even want to know about it at all) i do know you people are very stubborn, so stop complaining and do something about it, USA always talks about big opportunities and going for something if you really want it.
Imho after reading so many articles about the USA elections 2016, i ask myself: do they really want to change anything? just read the replies on the campaign rallies, libs, dems and reps, you are all over another, some replies are so out of control, its almost amusing to read these replies.
Lots of reps complaining but dont do anything else then join the dems , join the side of Hilly....
while you should stand up cause this is the only chance reps get to have another rep. POTUS for eons to come.
If and when Hilly wins (89% change she will cause they ignore all her wrongdoings while if a rep or trump lets so muchs as a small fart the MSM is all over it.

So: if the winner are Dems (Hilly) then the next 400 years will stay that way.
In europe we know we hardly have a change to change it big so we kinda 'accepted' that i guess :D
You people now have one chance to change things.
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Gilozard: Yes, native English speakers are more likely to tell others when they are not speaking correctly. That's because they use the language every day and are better at spotting incorrect usage. You won't make remarks about anyone else's English because you don't know enough to do that and you know it. It's not a character trait to brag about, it's ignorance (although I suppose being aware of that is admirable?).

No, 'British English' is not any more real than US English. US English speakers are native English speakers. They are different dialects, and both are equally valid.

Yes, Americans love to complain. International news sources should pay less attention to it, often it's more like a national sport and part of the political process than a decision or actual plan for action.
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Tyrrhia: I'm sure plenty of people can notice incorrect usage of English; I do, and I'm not even a native speaker. But do I go here and there telling people off because they don't really speak a good English? No, because that's just being a douche. The only times I make someone aware of a mistake and / or typo is either when it creates a comical effect or when it completely changes the original meaning, but it's always said in a light-hearted way, not like "Your English is terrible; fix it up before daring speak to me again." I don't really care if someone uses "its" instead of "it's"; sure, it's somewhat inconvenient for the reader but it's still readable, and a lot more so than when letters have intentionally been omitted (e.g. "u," "rly," "thx," etc.).

I'm curious of something, though: would you have told the same thing to a like-minded, liberal person? Or was it just a disguised and condescending insult aimed at the other school of thought?
I tell the same thing to anyone whose English is bad enough that figuring out what they mean is difficult or impossible. Young, old, native, not-native, whatever the politics, I have told them all that they were expressing themselves badly and needed to figure out how to speak before speaking up.

And I'm pretty sure they're more liberal than I am, actually. It's hard to pinpoint their political thoughts though. Seriously, go back and read through their original post - the grammar, missing punctuation and misused words make understanding their politics quite difficult except in a very general I-am-angry-at-establishment sense.

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Gilozard: OK, all cool then. There are people who unironically spout similar stuff so yeah, I was unsure.

Yes, native English speakers are more likely to tell others when they are not speaking correctly. That's because they use the language every day and are better at spotting incorrect usage. You won't make remarks about anyone else's English because you don't know enough to do that and you know it. It's not a character trait to brag about, it's ignorance (although I suppose being aware of that is admirable?).

No, 'British English' is not any more real than US English. US English speakers are native English speakers. They are different dialects, and both are equally valid.

Yes, Americans love to complain. International news sources should pay less attention to it, often it's more like a national sport and part of the political process than a decision or actual plan for action.
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gamesfreak64: Same goes for you.... go try and see if you can 'master' the Dutch language :D ......... cause oh it is so simple to learn language .... try it you'll be suprised how hard it is, unless you'r a linquist.

Anyway enough words wasted on silly topics like people who think they are superior because they are born in the USA.
Except I've never said anything like that. Good attempt at the strawman, but you're the only one who's tried to bring nationalism and bigotry into this, and you've used it to attack Americans each time.

I've never pretended I'm superior to you - I've simply pointed out that your English is bad enough that it is confusing your point and making communicating difficult. There are simple things you could do, like using shorter sentences and proper capitalization, that would fix the problem.

If we were posting in Dutch, and I was posting as incoherently as you are, I would absolutely expect people to tell me to stop it. It's not a matter of mastery. It's a matter of fundamentals. You are missing or misusing simple basics like punctuation
Post edited August 25, 2016 by Gilozard
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Tyrrhia: I'm sure plenty of people can notice incorrect usage of English; I do, and I'm not even a native speaker. But do I go here and there telling people off because they don't really speak a good English? No, because that's just being a douche. The only times I make someone aware of a mistake and / or typo is either when it creates a comical effect or when it completely changes the original meaning, but it's always said in a light-hearted way, not like "Your English is terrible; fix it up before daring speak to me again." I don't really care if someone uses "its" instead of "it's"; sure, it's somewhat inconvenient for the reader but it's still readable, and a lot more so than when letters have intentionally been omitted (e.g. "u," "rly," "thx," etc.).

I'm curious of something, though: would you have told the same thing to a like-minded, liberal person? Or was it just a disguised and condescending insult aimed at the other school of thought?
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Gilozard: I tell the same thing to anyone whose English is bad enough that figuring out what they mean is difficult or impossible. Young, old, native, not-native, whatever the politics, I have told them all that they were expressing themselves badly and needed to figure out how to speak before speaking up.

And I'm pretty sure they're more liberal than I am, actually. It's hard to pinpoint their political thoughts though. Seriously, go back and read through their original post - the grammar, missing punctuation and misused words make understanding their politics quite difficult except in a very general I-am-angry-at-establishment sense.
I've read their last three posts in this thread and they all are understandable. Sure, the punctuation is a little bit absent, but the grammar is not so bad that I have to take some extra time to understand the general meaning.

In the first of these last three posts, they just didn't get the joke about Forrest Gump, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's not even related to a poor understanding of English; rather, it's a lack of movie culture and, again, there's nothing wrong with that. (I also have a severe lack of movie culture because it's not an art I enjoy. I only really like a very few movies, so I don't even know most of the classics.)
The Simpsons understand American politics better than anyone;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v7XXSt9XRM
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Gilozard: I tell the same thing to anyone whose English is bad enough that figuring out what they mean is difficult or impossible. Young, old, native, not-native, whatever the politics, I have told them all that they were expressing themselves badly and needed to figure out how to speak before speaking up.

And I'm pretty sure they're more liberal than I am, actually. It's hard to pinpoint their political thoughts though. Seriously, go back and read through their original post - the grammar, missing punctuation and misused words make understanding their politics quite difficult except in a very general I-am-angry-at-establishment sense.
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Tyrrhia: I've read their last three posts in this thread and they all are understandable. Sure, the punctuation is a little bit absent, but the grammar is not so bad that I have to take some extra time to understand the general meaning.

In the first of these last three posts, they just didn't get the joke about Forrest Gump, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's not even related to a poor understanding of English; rather, it's a lack of movie culture and, again, there's nothing wrong with that. (I also have a severe lack of movie culture because it's not an art I enjoy. I only really like a very few movies, so I don't even know most of the classics.)
Thank you for your reply, thanks for standing up for me , and you are right, typos can make a reply sound different and in case of typos that are not corrected, i think its okay to alert the member of his/her typos.
I know its usually the native american english speaking and maybe sometimes some english who love to correct the slightest mistakes made by non native speakers.

So its a good thing we Europeans are not alone, as for the big USA, the problem is if a member from the UK would correct me, I wouldn't mind it at all, afterall its their language, so i can take that, but i cant take it from people who made a 'mess' of it (think of all the words that differ like color and colour to name just one) .

So, thats why i replied like this, the 'relation' with UK is different, even if they say some harsh words, i can take it, many people can take it, we can even laugh about it, but coming from USA (allways bla bla bla) i have problems with that.

Anyway a simple example: take Oblama , everytime this guy starts to talk, i shut down my tv or i turn down the volume, everything he says is bla bla bla, he made a mess of USA and now he is pointing his little finger to others, i have seen many presidents but he's the worst one imho and many more people think the same (google).
Post edited August 29, 2016 by gamesfreak64
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gamesfreak64: Anyway a simple example: take Oblama , everytime this guy starts to talk, i shut down my tv or i turn down the volume, everything he says is bla bla bla, he made a mess of USA and now he is pointing his little finger to others, i have seen many presidents but he's the worst one imho and many more people think the same (google).
Ummmm...yeah.

Obama also wasn't born in the US and falsified his birth certificate. Many more people think the same. (google)

He's actually a socialist muslim who was brought over to act as a manchurian candidate. Many more people think the same. (google)

His approval ratings, which hover around 50% near the end of his term are completely falsified as part of his collaboration with the lamestream media and are, when properly unskewed, actually below G.W. Bush's slightly-over-20% ratings of 8 years ago. Many more people think the same. (google)

I'm sure you see the problem with your argument.
I've already decided on my favorite candidate for 2016:
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gamesfreak64: Anyway a simple example: take Oblama , everytime this guy starts to talk, i shut down my tv or i turn down the volume, everything he says is bla bla bla, he made a mess of USA and now he is pointing his little finger to others, i have seen many presidents but he's the worst one imho and many more people think the same (google).
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Erpy: Ummmm...yeah.

Obama also wasn't born in the US and falsified his birth certificate. Many more people think the same. (google)

He's actually a socialist muslim who was brought over to act as a manchurian candidate. Many more people think the same. (google)

His approval ratings, which hover around 50% near the end of his term are completely falsified as part of his collaboration with the lamestream media and are, when properly unskewed, actually below G.W. Bush's slightly-over-20% ratings of 8 years ago. Many more people think the same. (google)

I'm sure you see the problem with your argument.
He was not born in the USA ? thanks for the info, i didnt know about that one.
I do know that oblama cheated with the polls and approval ratings, and i also suspect him from cheating with the votes :D

I just noticed another reply of mine is low rated :D , but i can see the fun of it.

Been mod for 11 years in small forum and i had to ban and warn many members who 'abused' the downvote/ratings which will hide a post because of its low status, so the mod team i was in decided to ask if the downvote button could be removed because of its abuse, and it got removed, so they could only vote up if they really like it but could not vote down just because they didnt agree or liked an honest reply or member.

The reason this downvote abuse happend was because the majority of the members were aged between 14 and 16 (yes after 13 you can sign up with no parent guidal needed so they can downvote whatever they want)
thats why the downvote was removed very quickly.

Anyway, i never thought we have so many members here, in a dicsussion forum people should be able to have a healthy discussion, but apparently if that happens some people start to press the downvote button to give a reply a low rating ( i think i know who downvoted the replies, but its okay i am not angry, i rarely get angry about something cause i think downvoting is a childish thing i will never downvote anyone, i do expect something like downvoting to take place on Steam (loads of young members) but not here ).


update:
just found this article :
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/17/internet-two-months-left-obama-gives-control-dictators/
Post edited August 30, 2016 by gamesfreak64