Posted April 07, 2020
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
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Microfish_1
I'm not a duck
Registered: Dec 2017
From United States
Posted April 07, 2020
Thanks for the correction, @ZFR. I had forgotten about the first, and wasn't overly concerned about the latter because people keep seem to be telling each other that SH & mafia are two different birds and ought to be treated differently. I stand (sit?) corrected.
@Lifthrasil, thank you.
@Lifthrasil, thank you.
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted April 07, 2020
Is the deadline tomorrow? And highest wagon is 1?
This is nice.
I still think SPF is the best lynch, but if there isn't enough for his wagon, would be willing to vote:
AFP
Micro,
Pooka,
GR
in that order
Not willing:
zazaksloth
Cadaver
This is nice.
I still think SPF is the best lynch, but if there isn't enough for his wagon, would be willing to vote:
AFP
Micro,
Pooka,
GR
in that order
Not willing:
zazaksloth
Cadaver
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PookaMustard
モニカ。モニカだけ。
Registered: Jun 2013
From Egypt
Posted April 07, 2020
I guess it's about time we moved on from this unimaginably boring day. But let's not end it on a no-lynch, that would be even more boring.
I would be willing to vote either GR, or Cadaver (who I'm voting right now). Not willing to vote anyone else.
I would be willing to vote either GR, or Cadaver (who I'm voting right now). Not willing to vote anyone else.
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
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A_Future_Pilot
That Guy
Registered: May 2009
From United States
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted April 07, 2020
Not new. #665. As stated there: your vote on GR seemed opportunistic.
That... and there is something off about you. Your "I don't want to have conflict with anyone" demeanor. Could be your returning after a long break to GOG that's causing it, but I get the scummy feeling nonetheless.
There is one thing that speaks strongly in your favour: you can't be scum with SPF. I can see SPF voting his scumbuddy easily on D1, but there is no way a new player does what Geno did to his scumbuddy.
He's a new player. Gets drawn into scum. Find the whole thing overwhelming so he, RVS votes for his scumbuddy (I can see a new player overdoing the distncing this way), and then... changes it to a serious vote and ends the day with nothing else then leaves because of IRL issues??? Nope.
(... and as I'm writing this I'm getting a strong feeling of old deja vu. Did we have a game before where a newbie made a single voting post then leave and have to be subbed after D1 and I ended up clearing the sub based on same logic as above?)
Though of course there is the possibility you're both SKs.
But once SPK flips genuine honest-to-God non-SK Mafia, you're pretty much cleared.
(Also I don't like Pooka's #815. Maybe it moves him to top position after SPF. Maybe.)
That... and there is something off about you. Your "I don't want to have conflict with anyone" demeanor. Could be your returning after a long break to GOG that's causing it, but I get the scummy feeling nonetheless.
There is one thing that speaks strongly in your favour: you can't be scum with SPF. I can see SPF voting his scumbuddy easily on D1, but there is no way a new player does what Geno did to his scumbuddy.
He's a new player. Gets drawn into scum. Find the whole thing overwhelming so he, RVS votes for his scumbuddy (I can see a new player overdoing the distncing this way), and then... changes it to a serious vote and ends the day with nothing else then leaves because of IRL issues??? Nope.
(... and as I'm writing this I'm getting a strong feeling of old deja vu. Did we have a game before where a newbie made a single voting post then leave and have to be subbed after D1 and I ended up clearing the sub based on same logic as above?)
Though of course there is the possibility you're both SKs.
But once SPK flips genuine honest-to-God non-SK Mafia, you're pretty much cleared.
(Also I don't like Pooka's #815. Maybe it moves him to top position after SPF. Maybe.)
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PookaMustard
モニカ。モニカだけ。
Registered: Jun 2013
From Egypt
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
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yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Posted April 07, 2020
I'm reading, but I gotta be honest, I don't know what I'm looking for
With two anti-town neutral lynches the first two days the wagons are meaningless
I'm trying just ISOs of the living players
With two anti-town neutral lynches the first two days the wagons are meaningless
I'm trying just ISOs of the living players
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted April 07, 2020
At this point my self esteem has been beaten down to the point where I'm suspicious anyone clearing me. I'd be willing to vote for any of those to avoid a no-lynch. Slightly prefer AFP or Micro as it seems stranger coming from them. It seems more 'normal' for GR to be clearing me like that and Pooka seems to have been doing some good stuff.
Genny making a 'serious' vote right at the beginning and then disappearing other than to come back and explain it was serious doesn't strike me as something a scum player would do, but it's pretty clear Genocide was either feeling overwhelmed or just didn't have a clue what they were doing. I don't want to hold it against AFP, but I also don't think I can clear him on that basis. I'm just going to treat it as if AFP's slot was simply absent on D1 and completely NAI.
Genny making a 'serious' vote right at the beginning and then disappearing other than to come back and explain it was serious doesn't strike me as something a scum player would do, but it's pretty clear Genocide was either feeling overwhelmed or just didn't have a clue what they were doing. I don't want to hold it against AFP, but I also don't think I can clear him on that basis. I'm just going to treat it as if AFP's slot was simply absent on D1 and completely NAI.
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted April 07, 2020