This is all China's fault.

Lemon juice is good for your immune system.

UV light is used in hospitals. It's a disinfection method.

You believe or not in what I said, honestly, I don't really give a flying ****. I simply shared what I was informed of by people working in the hospitals.

Yes you are correct. However China's isn't to blame for how the US government has treated this and how slow acting they are. The US had experts who knew since November of 2019. So the US as a country should have been better prepared for this.

A study has been conducted looking at the surface stability and aerosol stability.

"Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1"

"SARS-CoV-2 remained viable in aerosols throughout the duration of our experiment (3 hours), with a reduction in infectious titer from 103.5 to 102.7 TCID50 per liter of air."

"SARS-CoV-2 was more stable on plastic and stainless steel than on copper and cardboard, and viable virus was detected up to 72 hours after application to these surfaces (Figure 1A), although the virus titer was greatly reduced (from 103.7 to 100.6 TCID50 per milliliter of medium after 72 hours on plastic and from 103.7 to 100.6 TCID50 per milliliter after 48 hours on stainless steel). "

"On copper, no viable SARS-CoV-2 was measured after 4 hours"

"On cardboard, no viable SARS-CoV-2 was measured after 24 hours"

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?query=featured_home

Now we know, why masks are a thing in Asia. China confirmed aerosol transmission along the way in February, if I remember it right, but the western countries never picked it up and are sill saying that it is transmitted by "droplet infection". Which is not wrong, but also not everything.

aye, fresh fruit is good for your health, and vitamin c is essential also. However, this is general advice to be healthy, and not specifically against COVID-19. For the immune system in general, you need vitamin D, though, not vitamin C. Vitamin D is produced in the skin under sunlight , so that's why a walk is good for your health as well, but again - this is general well-being advice and not specific against COVID-19.

UV is indeed used for disinfection... of materiel.... not of people.... do not sit in UV light over a length of time.
(https://www.skincancer.org/risk-factors/uv-radiation/)

To a degree, yes it's China's fault. However, the United States and other countries knew this was coming and should have been better prepared. The US was definitely caught with its pants down. In live in the state of VA. As of now:
schools are closed for the rest of the academic year
restaurants are open for curbside, delivery, and takeout
recreational facilities are closed (that should have been done already)
nonessential businesses are closed

These measures are in place for the next 30 days. I think people who live in my state (and the rest of the US, for that matter) need to be prepared for a harsh reality: life is not going back to normal any time soon, if it ever does. We also need to realize that for social distancing to work it has to be practiced.

A friend and I were talking the other day about what is going to happen as this drags on. There's a possibility in the US that people could be asked to hunker down until August or September. My friend's opinion: reopen everything now and let the virus work its way through. Let nature take its course. Otherwise, we're just prolonging the misery and destroying the economy. That's his opinion. I don't necessarily agree. However, if you're going to be serious about social distancing and reducing the spread, then you can't take half-hearted measures, which is essentially what the US is doing. You can't ask people to shelter in place, then leave beaches, parks, and gyms open. You need to be prepared to enforce these measures.

(Sorry for the rant)

So what do I do? I can wear gloves to get groceries but if I get Corona on them during my visit and I whip out my card to pay at the end the card itself would be infected wouldn't it? (which i usually put back in my pocket).

Not to mention washing all the groceries wrapped in plastic (everything these days)? (or parking them for 3 days)

Yeah, over here they(dems this time) blocked the payouts for those who need it for some dumb reason or other.....imo if the president can he should go over their heads(national emergency, etc) and push it through(the current form of the bill).

Some here(especially the ones let go from their jobs, homeless, etc) need the aid, not bickering in DC.

As said, many of our larger corporations could switch over to help make some things, and the president could order them to....dunno why he isn't doing so by now, tbh.

(Also I heard Merkel might have it/has it......all I can do is go "ha ha" and point like Nelson from the simpsons.....I wonder, does that make me a bad guy? :|)

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That's old news........at least where i'm at.

Some here have closed due to being in malls/etc that shut down, and it's likely the cops will make any others close down if they don't comply(only actual essentials are now allowed open as of sunday in NY state).


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Nice points in this post-the email it is quoting....as for this bit:

Eh, i'd rather people be cautious but not afraid too much.....don't want people to panic(more), after all.

I think it's important for people to remember:

Pandemics comes in waves...

... and the 2nd wave is often -- in the past -- worse than the 1st wave.

This was the case with the Spanish Flu in 1918. The 2nd wave was much deadlier than the 1st.

So what causes a 2nd wave?

Mutations can cause a 2nd wave, but more often it's simply...

... people who got sick during the 1st wave start feeling better and prematurely re-enter society -- becoming carriers and spreading the virus (again). And, often those people allow the virus to re-energize within their own systems as well.

Nowadays we can also add the resumption of international travel to the growth of a 2nd wave (as China is now starting to experience their 2nd wave alongside resumption of international travel).

Will the 2nd wave be devastating? Not particularly, but -- as history shows -- without proper precautions, it has the potential.

So what should you do?

If you get ill, stay home -- limiting your exposure to others -- until you are certain that you are well (obviously seek out medical attention if needed). Do not push yourself or others to return to a daily routine (what there is of it currently) early. Let your body have time to heal itself and create antibodies.

There's news about a new/old virus in China.

Hantavirus. One person died from it today.

Seems like the immune system of people is weaker because of covid-19, and there's a possibility of old viruses infecting people easier then before.

its an old virus you numpty - and can only be transmitted via direct contact with rats

Well, it's still better than everyone running around, I think.

There's no perfect solution in all of this.

The problem here is that we still have snow now, and it's a bit cold at times. But once weather is good and all, people will be going out like crazy, after a long cold winter. No army will stop us. :D
Yeah I know it's old.

But my point is that, after covid-19, our immune system may be weaker and vulnerable. And there's possibility of it not able to fight the old viruses. Or at least not as well as before.

Anyways, I din't mean to scare anyone. Just overthinking I guess. Sorry!

This, but I still don't think it's a good enough excuse to take too many of our rights away for too long, or to say to those who want protection and don't own any(legal) means of doing so "no, you can't exercise your 2A rights atm....better luck next time".

I mean what do they want.....other people turning to "not so legit" guns?

Because it's likely some others(not me, I don't use them at all) would due to this in some places.

I lean more that way atm as well, but imo it's still likely better(for others) to be more safe than sorry in case they DO need such later on.

Eh, I am more leaning towards what George Carlin said on this....i.e. that the planet will likely outlive us(for one reason or another). ;)

That's not so much out of pessimism, though, but just common sense/logic(earth will be habitable for another 1 Billion or so years, and I don't think mankind will survive that long...though it'd be nice to be wrong on this).
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Now for some good news:

Some scientists believe due to data gathered that we'd only need one vaccine for the corona virus/covid 19

From the above article:

"Peter Thielen, a molecular geneticist at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, told The Washington Post that the strains of the virus infecting people in the U.S. have only about four to 10 genetic variations between the strain that emerged in Wuhan, China.

"That's a relatively small number of mutations for having passed through a large number of people," he told the newspaper. "At this point the mutation rate of the virus would suggest that the vaccine developed for SARS-CoV-2 would be a single vaccine, rather than a new vaccine every year like the flu vaccine.""

and this bit

"Small viral mutations leading to outsized effects in clinical outcomes are not unheard of, the experts said, but there has been no indication of such an outcome for coronavirus thus far, with death rates in places such as Italy likely the result of situational factors rather than mutations."

No, whenever you make something illegal, it's the black market that will profit, and the politicians that made it so, more often than not.

I love George Carlin and his way of thinking. But I think, our planet and us, humies on it, are not really two different things/creatures, but one. As in interconnected. So in that sense, one can't be without the other.

Well, the immune system can be even more weaker then it is today, as you say, so many people not taking care of their health. But at least now, we're starting to think. Sometimes it takes something serious to make us think for a second and change our life-style.

We need to learn from covid-19, not waste our time/energy to hate it.

An ironic Galilean development.

Wherever you pay tax you have a claim for assistance. Or, rather, if you don't pay taxes the government will be less interested in helping you.

Yes, I am more worried about the next months than the immediate threat. The reservoir (the population in which the virus is virulent) needs to be exhausted to ensure total safety, and that would require a proximal lock-down until all locals have remained uninfected for two weeks (assuming that is the incubation period, something that is still uncertain).

I have just received my annual 'flu shot, and this year the quadrivalent inoculation covers:
A/Brisbane/02/2018 (H1N1)pdm09 —— like strain (A/Brisbane/02/2018 IVR-190);
A/South Australia/34/2019 (H3N2) —— like strain (A/South Australia/34/2019 IVR-197);
B/Washington/02/2019; and
B/Phuket/2073/2013.

Last year it was: Michigan A (H1N1), Switzerland A (H3N2), Colorado B, and Phuket B.