Telika: Heck, it's even more primitive than that. Beyond finding Troi and Riker horribly bland as characters, I just - can't - stand - their - faces. And expressions, and attitudes, and, eek. They are just gooey.
Gooey I say.
They make the starship look like a cosmetics shop.
Also would it be false to describe the original series' crew as much more "alive" than them, humanly ?
Elmofongo: So Troi and Riker looks too "normal" for the crew? Like it's just a bunch of random people that bumps into a starship?
Not exactly. In fact the original series' crew looked normal, like, real people (even if slightly cartoonishly stereotyped, as the genre requires, as part of the fun). Troi and Riker are like a shampoo commercial's version of jedi wannabees. They look like star trek officer uniforms with nothing inside. It's hard to express what they evoke me. Like an artificial attempt at looking super dignified (while looking actually super creepy - my personal theory is that the Riker character is secretely a smug pedophile all along, it just SAYS SO ON HIS FACE), or at super honouring their super functions of super starfleet super official super officers, or something. They feel bland in an artificial attempt to match a certain idea of "coolness" that I cannot really stomach. Something very far from the relaxed and spontaneous humanity of the crew of the original series, or space1999, or the galactica remake.
They give me the impression of acting in front of a mirror, in a somewhat opposite way from kirk's. Much worse.
Telika: Also would it be false to describe the original series' crew as much more "alive" than them, humanly ?
Breja: I wouldn't say that, but I think I know what you mean. The original crew feels like a more colourfull bunch, the ones you'd rather hang out with if given a choice.
Yeah. I'd also say there is something a bit more 'informal' about them. While troi and riker seem really proud of their formal attitudes with some oh-look-how-cool-i-am-within informal "sir dare i smile and make a personal comment to show that i have opinions and humour and stuff sir" pseudo-humanizing twatness here and there.
(I do not like them much.)
(But i do like Picard, and i tolerate Data, and i like the design of blind-guy-with-techno-glasses before he got techno-eyes instead, etc...)