@joe: either you or lift is scum. I wouldn't risk a government with either of you. So logic dictates that maybe an unknown is better. Because if the next government passes a L, we will need a flub or rtcb president. At this point I'm leaning towards rtcb.
BUT! Either Lift or Joe is certainly Liberal (spoiler alert - it's me).
While I think you're right, technically it's not "certainly". There is a chance both of you are fascists and Lift did this so he could implicate himself after some time, while "clearing" you.
I think it's too risky a move. While you create conflict to distance yourself in Mafia, in Secret Hitler all you end up with is both of you outside any government.
(Incidentally, I'm happy there is finally a *real* conflict i.e. one where you're sure one person is scum (so one based on investigation or arguing which cards were passed). In the previous game we never had them.
Some other pairings I thought about:
Theorem: Pooka and Lift can't be both scum
(barring bad play on Pooka's part)
Proof: Assume Pooka scum. He is a president and has to elect a fellow chancellor. When would ever F choose a fellow F as his chancellor? Two reasons: He wants to make be very sure a fascist policy is passed (even if he draws 2 Ls) OR he wants to pass a liberal policy and clear two fascists with one stone.
Neither applies here. There was only 1 L, so scumPooka knew his presence was enough to pass an F policy, and there is no way scumPooka at this point wanted to pass an L policy to clear himself and Lift. Not when there was a good 62.5% chance they'd be getting FFF anyway.
scumPooka would know he has to pass a F policy, either by burying the remaining L or getting FFF anyway. Either way, he was better off getting a Liberal into government so the liberal's name gets tainted too by the F passed.
A corollary of the above: blotunga and Lift can't both be scum
Proof: if blotunga is scum, Pooka is too, hence Lift isn't (as per above proof). If Lift is scum then Pooka isn't (as per above proof), hence blotunga is Liberal.
A corollary of the above: blotunga and Pooka must be on same team
(note that without the above, we can still have a case of fascist Pooka clearing liberal blotunga).
A corollary of the above: liberal!Joe, scum!(blotunga & Pooka) combination is not possible
(i.e. if Joe is liberal, then blotungaPooka has to be liberal, and if blotungaPooka is scum then Joe must be scum).
Proof: If Joe is liberal, Lift is scum therefore Pooka and blotunga can't be scum. Rest you do for homework.
Any comments on the above?
a) It does depend on Pooka not making a mistake. I wonder if scumPooka who just got into the game might not have picked scumLift by accident.
b) My money would be on Lift being the scum, with other three liberals.
c) Why wouldn't Lift scum create a conflict with liberal blotunga claiming he passed him FL? Could it be he's actually a liberal?