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TammyTown: Nacho - why did you ask for trent's guidance and who his top three suspects were when you started catching up the other day?
Trent is a decent townread of mine, just wanted to get him talking a little more since he seems to be a bit on the quiet side.

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TammyTown: Lx - you said that part of what you suspected about the new people was the reliance on iso's. Who is doing the iso's that you found suspicious? Also, are you new to Mafia?
This isn't the quote I wanted to pick up, but my reason for finding LX as town as I've found him is because of his reaction to the push on him and how his game begun: pushing for no lynch in the way that he did, talking about how he felt there were a bunch of scum afraid to push his wagon, things like that.

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TammyTown: Stanari - i'm not the biggest fan of the mafia don't tend to stick out, care what they think, are consensy tell. I've seen way to many scum go against the grain, do things to garner attention to clear someone based on that. That said I'm not sure what to do with lx right now.
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Stanari: I think it takes a specific kind of player or a specific kind of meta to foster that behavior. I don't see any indications to support it, although it's possibly I'm just vastly misreading him. Should probably do some metadiving for that.

At the very least Ix is not in my lynchpool today; I don't have much credence in this read but I'd be rather surprised if he flipped scum. (Yes, those two things are contradictory.) Although that wouldn't be the first time I hard defended scum. Lol.
I think those who go against the grain as scum have a pretty solid confidence in it and what to do when they get pressured; LX hasn't given me any of those vibes quite yet, and from bler's description of his scumgame, I don't expect him to have a strong against the grain scumgame.
You are remarkably calm for having an axe-wielding lunatic charging you.

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I need to re-think my life.
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bler144: I don't know. Don't get me wrong, I quite like you but this post makes me want to throw things.
I think that it was unreasonable for you to expect Docbear as a player playing her second game to understand the implications of pushing a lynch on Quadralien; she doesn't really have that much familiarity with him or with wagons of that nature in general, so. What I don't like about that post is the bit about being on a wagon that's easy for scum to hide on; seems like a strange focus for such a new player, but is reasoning that I've seen thrown around a bit in the game earlier.

Yoggy, you are the cutest axe-wielding maniac that I've ever encountered, so that probably has something to do with it. Thanks for the bumps though!
wekom
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Dessimu: Now we really can be certain of lurkers to be taken care of, so QuadrAlien falls into that department and vote shall not be wasted on him.

Don't know about what others think but lx can be as much of a distraction as a really helping hand if town. Simply take the last game where I had to kill myself to make him believe. Thank the gods he was confirmed town at that moment. Otherwise I would have voted him in the blink of an eye.

Also, lx has a small to average tendency to go into wild theories later in the game if we (as a group of all players) get stuck with inabillity to make a decision. That only adds to confusion and makes lx always look more scummy regardless of the alignment.

Based on my personal experience, lx's behavior and fact that his wagon would something to talk about, I feel perfectly fine voting him.

Vote: lxamyakxim

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So that is one player I see of voting. Another player makes my eyebrows dance a bit and I am having second thoughts about one of the newcomers. Nothing concrete to share though, so until I gather facts to support my feelings, that will be that.
This vote mostly seems like a policy lynch to me, which is a disappointment at this stage in the game.

What newcomer do you have an eye on and why would you say in this weird cryptic way instead of saying what you meant?
shhhh


bookwyrm ran away


we can catch him if we're quiet


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WHHHHHHHHHHOAAAAAAAAAARRRGARAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
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DragonSushi: Honestly, gotta decide between Trent and Stanari. Unlikely w/w.

Gonna go with Stanari

Vote: Stanari
Why don't you think that Trent and Stan could be wolves together? I don't remember them having any significant interactions together, but I haven't exactly been engaged recently so completely possible I haven't read or forgot something iimportant.

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Dessimu: Now we really can be certain of lurkers to be taken care of, so QuadrAlien falls into that department and vote shall not be wasted on him.
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QuadrAlien: In the interests of honesty, I should say that I tend to be overly quiet but not as much as to fall to modkill.
I sort of liked this post. Quad is getting a pretty decent chunk of heat early, but is generally getting ignored because people think that he will be taken care of by holy fire, but he makes this point and says that isn't very likely at all.

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Bookwyrm627: Because you asked, I'll try again:
1) Post 221: Nacho said he expected that I'd reveal what I knew about events as soon as I knew it. He also said my timing seemed off.
2) Implication from 1: He thinks I didn't reveal about events as soon as I knew.
3) From Post 281: He assumed [that I didn't reveal it as soon as I knew].

If he expected that I'd reveal ASAP, then why not ask whether I revealed ASAP? Why assume that I've been holding out? If he'd asked whether I knew from the start or whether I'd just found out, it would have been a complete non-issue from my perspective (it would have been a completely legit question). Instead, he assumed that I'd been holding out, and he didn't like that I'd been holding out.

I don't expect people to read my mind; I do expect them to consider ideas that seem like natural outgrowths of their stated assumptions. To me, jumping straight to "this doesn't feel right" sounds like someone trying to cast some doubt/shade on someone else.
I don't remember suspecting you for the timing that I felt was off, I remember making the case that you were trolling/joking and that people shouldn't delve completely into the RP madness just because you said you had an event.

I thought you were lying because the timing seemed strange (I didn't think of triggered events as in you getting flavor information, I thought you were claiming something more significant from you being cryptic around it), and informing one player in the middle of the game about a crucial game mechanic seemed wonky to me. Your argument that I've been throwing shade at you doesn't really stand up since I've never suspected you or implied you were suspicious due to the whole tizzy we've had and the part of me assuming you meant differently and thus I am a more likely wolf is confusing at best.
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yogsloth: Sorry Fox - wish you had tried just a little harder.

Worried about Nacho now too.

No flips? Not good.

Not much time today either. I think we need something to happen.

Oh, btw, do NOT drink what's in the stills. It's full of scorpions and sledgehammers and semi-trucks. I don't feel so good.
If you want something to happen, why not put a little more effort in making the wheels turns?

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Brasas: Gut check on the docbear wagon is she's a derp. I must check myself for why I seem to always see derps everywhere though...

Read post 718 - I have another gut feeling the Nacho | Wyrm tiff is meaningful. Will someone reread and spare me the trouble? Please?
It'd be easier to help if what you were looking for was a bit clearer.

I understand flavor is difficult and making it mesh with mechanics can be very hard. But I am dismayed to see no flip, and that the flavor for the modkill is to send the character away from danger. Drealmer practically admitted to some bastardy, and now this, and yet hardly any reaction. Just a collective shrug of shoulders?

I don't like lynching just because. And I don't like peer pressure. And I'm stubborn. And I hate the feeling I'm being setup somehow. And whenever anything No Lynch related happens I get more and more alarm tingles. >:(
I'm not sure what reaction you expected; if the entire game is no flips then I will be a very unhappy Perkins. If it's just for that flip alone then yuck, but I'll live.

The reason to lynch now is because its the better move an overwhelming majority of the time; it gives us information, it allows us to cash in on bonus lynches if the doctor makes a save, etc.
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Nachomamma8: If you want something to happen, why not put a little more effort in making the wheels turns?
[Stares quizzically at axe in hand; wonders if it's figment of one's own imagination]
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Brasas: I was this close to making a trombone joke... but I'm not sure I actually understood it originally, so am worried it would be a faux pas...

We're more alike than you think. But really Bler, what page is that? You keep jumping...
You know he made a whole post explaining the joke, right?

Not sure what you mean about me jumping. I thought I was picking something up from you, proposed marriage to cement our bond, only to discover it was all based on a lie.

If anything I have been the constant one, good sir.

If no one else finds the thread I'll probably have to pull it out in sundown anyway. Probably.

Btw, one reason my game struggles at the end is that tendency to not stick with my reads and listen to charismatic deep wolves who tell me that they're really Neutral JOAT Survivors because that totally makes more sense than Town Zombie-Maker. Or something like that.

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TammyTown: snip
As low % as it is, that's why I keep sticking with the neutral yog theory. He's not scum hunting, but clearly making an effort to not look scummy either. Mulling other theories.

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yogsloth: I need to re-think my life.
Oh Barty-Bear, I can't stay mad at you! You're the light in my forum mafia darkness!
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bler144: Oh Barty-Bear, I can't stay mad at you! You're the light in my forum mafia darkness!
Neato.

Can we please make with the tea-and-herbs now?

tea and herbs now I'm not just whistling dixie I need them would you please just do it
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bler144: Oh Barty-Bear, I can't stay mad at you! You're the light in my forum mafia darkness!
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yogsloth: Neato.

Can we please make with the tea-and-herbs now?

tea and herbs now I'm not just whistling dixie I need them would you please just do it
<Delivers tea and herbs to yogsloth>

#Ingameevents
#Amidoingthisright?
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bler144: <Delivers tea and herbs to yogsloth>

#Ingameevents
#Amidoingthisright?
Christ Moses jumping bumblebee cactusfuck.

1) open Marie's QT
2) copy and paste above
3) profit
Nacho what do you think about the dragon?
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Nachomamma8: I think that it was unreasonable for you to expect Docbear as a player playing her second game to understand the implications of pushing a lynch on Quadralien
Yeah, I apologized to her in the admin thread. Saddickface.

@Tammy - doc is a she, fwiw.

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Nachomamma8: I sort of liked this post. Quad is getting a pretty decent chunk of heat early, but is generally getting ignored because people think that he will be taken care of by holy fire, but he makes this point and says that isn't very likely at all.
He's been mentioned like 80+ times (89 hits minutes number of times Drealmer mentioned him, not counting mentions as QA or whatever his character name is).

I don't think it's so much ignoring as much as a policy question.

He's a capable player when he invests the time. He's kinda indicated he's putting in the time he can in a game that's not exactly reading-light by GoG standards, even without the added load of people adding RP noise. Now, that said, if he's a town PR he can execute his role without derping and can be useful. If he were purely hypothetically, town innocent child, I'd probably even trust him in an F5.

As town he's competent but never likely to be active. Can add the occasional insight others have missed. As mafia he's unlikely to derp or make a notable slip. He's just quietly competent but definitely likely to be on the lurking end of quiet.

So he's just not super likely to sort without some actual clearance of his own or 3rd party investigation. I mostly hate the idea of a Quad wagon D1 because we will literally learn shit because lurking is absolutely the only reason to vote him. I just think we shouldn't go down that road unless it's side-by-side dual wagons of Quad v. ______. And I'm not sure who _____ would be or how we'd make that happen organically.

So imo there's....really not that much more to say.


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Nachomamma8: ...informing one player in the middle of the game about a crucial game mechanic seemed wonky to me.
Didn't yogs warn you what you were getting into?

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yogsloth: 1) open Marie's QT
2) copy and paste above
3) profit
HTF was I supposed to know that?