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Tallima: I put Ubuntu on a system once way back in the day (prob 2002ish) and it never worked right and semi-permanently ate some HD space.

So I didn't get much Linux experience.
Linux has gone a loooong way in the last 13 years. Even a n00b like me can handle it now (at least MINT) and I'm glad, because otherwise I'd still have to use WinXP for everything.

Anyway, has anyone tested the games with WINE yet?
Post edited October 31, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Zeether: Earthsiege 2 has an installer from the Sierra Help Pages but the installer assumes you have CD audio tracks in the game, which the ISO off the site doesn't seem to have. This means you'll get errors about _inmm.dll (which is what is used to rip the audio). I'm not sure why the music tracks aren't in there.
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phaolo: I think that the ISO format doesn't support Cda tracks.
They should have chosen bin+cue instead. -_-'
So does that Earthsiege 2 ISO actually work? Or is the lack of a cue file going to cause problems?
I know Vengeance is the only Tribes game with a solo campaign, but do the others have bots for single-player-multiplayer matches?
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IronArcturus: So does that Earthsiege 2 ISO actually work? Or is the lack of a cue file going to cause problems?
I leave the test to Zeether, because here I'm on a temp PC.
If the game had cda tracks, you don't just miss a .cue file: the .iso should have been .bin or other formats.
(according to what I remember)
Post edited October 31, 2015 by phaolo
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phaolo: I think that the ISO format doesn't support Cda tracks.
They should have chosen bin+cue instead. -_-'
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IronArcturus: So does that Earthsiege 2 ISO actually work? Or is the lack of a cue file going to cause problems?
.ISO doesn't use .CUE files, Phaolo was saying they should've used .BIN/CUE which is a different format with support for multiple tracks.
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IronArcturus: So does that Earthsiege 2 ISO actually work? Or is the lack of a cue file going to cause problems?
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Smannesman: .ISO doesn't use .CUE files, Phaolo was saying they should've used .BIN/CUE which is a different format with support for multiple tracks.
Oh that's right! So that means Earthsiege 2 won't have any music with this ISO version? Or is it MIDI instead?
So the one I really wanted to jump back into was Starsiege: TRIBES, and it looks like they didn't actually include it.
In googling a bit I've seen talk of 'freeware' versions of Tribes 1, but I'm very skeptical...

Does anyone here have any idea if they're legit? Which one(s) have the most players? Which one(s) are best for modern systems? Basically any info would be more than I'm aware of at this point...

Here's hoping HiRez just uploads the correct ISO at some point.
as (dead) multiplayer games there is any reason to play them nowdays ?

also, the PS2's one can be burned on a disc and played on a non modified console ?
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Tallima: (snip)
I suggest you give Linux Mint or SolydK (KDE version, from SolydXK project) a spin in the VM.
Comparing Linux from 2000 to now, is like comparing huge first Motorola cellphone to smartphone.
Because Linux kernel started as unofficial UNIX clone for x86, it had minimal support from hardware manufacturers (small amount of hardware it reliably supported), small community and very little automation.

Due to kernel and GNU effort, ecosystem developed pretty fast. Then big things happened around 2010-2014, with AMD and Intel producing open drivers, with mesa project, with systemd (target driven daemon control), pulseaudio, kde4 (now kde5/kde framework in the work), git, ext4/btrfs, hal->udev migration etc. Also steam support, then GOG and desura. If you remember /etc/fstab - its only for static mount points today.

Strictly saying, today user does not need to know all this. Just grab a distribution that is binary and uses stable release cycle. Of course, there are other types (ArchLinux(+Manjaro,NetRunner,Chakra), Gentoo/Funtoo (+Calculate, Sabayon), Exherbo, and many others) - distrowatch.com search engine is pretty helpful for finding some new.

With wine, which is free implementation of winapi for unix-like systems (it binds the library and system calls to guest os versions), Linux supports around 70% of all windows applications. Modern Windows supports around the same amount due to legacy incompatibility, where with wine one can simply use other binary version where application has less problems. For this I suggest using PlayOnLinux (gui wrapper around Wine) or similar.

Dosbox, yes - all titles are supported.

Graphics hardware-wise, today all depends on manufacturer and type of driver. Problems may happen only on very old hardware (nvidia and amd), or very new if its AMD. Never used two-chip notebooks, there is a way to switch them, but I heard its not so convinient. OpenGL support is not a problem anymore. One problem still persists heavily - its multigpu (crossfire/sli) for games, since those require special profiles.

Wayland is coming soon on desktops..

I jumped around 2010. I first used Solaris in 2008, but at that time Linux was boring. Then Vista happened and I tried Ubuntu 8.04 first time on VM.

From my point of view, the problem with Windows is.... that there is misunderstanding.
Windows is a "for consumer product". Its ... not an OS, its a platform from MS for commercial solutions. That means, not everything is allowed and there are specific agenda over which only MS has control.

Linux (GNU/Linux actually) is the universal OS. There are a lot of projects that intersect and build on top of it and each other, but finally, what it really is - depends solely on distribution channel picks. And that means, if you have ways to change something you want, it can be changed.

edit: gog forums glitched nicely
Post edited October 31, 2015 by Lin545
Cool, though I'd personally prefer the CyberStorm games.

Tribes 2 was ported to Linux, but it's difficult to say whether or not you could make it work.

As for Vengeance, WINE HQ rating is "garbage", but it's pretty old, so I think I'll try it anyway.
Post edited October 31, 2015 by hyperagathon
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Joeqbr: Kudos to HiRez, but I'd still rather have them here (and also the missing Cyberstorm 1 an 2), even if I had to pay for them. Having GOG sort out the compatibilty issues and throw in some nice extras (Starsiege manual was especially nice with lots of lore and background information. Nice music too) would easily be worth it.
The Cyberstorm games were excellent and very underrated. Would love to see those appear.
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Gonen32: as (dead) multiplayer games there is any reason to play them nowdays ?
Earthsiege 1-2 and Starsiege have single-player campaigns. Not sure about Tribes and others, never played them, but I recall enjoying the single-player part of the three first games back in the day.

Too bad if these are ISO versions, ie. lacking music for those games which used audio CD tracks. I guess I won't be giving up my original CDs quite yet.

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Gonen32: also, the PS2's one can be burned on a disc and played on a non modified console ?
I don't think a non-modified PS2 can play non-original games, but maybe a PS2 emulator running on a PC can.
Downloaded...

I'll have to check these out later when i feel like messing around with things.
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Gonen32: also, the PS2's one can be burned on a disc and played on a non modified console ?
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timppu: I don't think a non-modified PS2 can play non-original games, but maybe a PS2 emulator running on a PC can.
There's suppose to be a technique in burning discs that will let the PS2 play the games directly, but it's some obscure mode that is quite difficult to work with, and reads/writes slowly on the computer. I haven't gotten it to work (Sadly :( ), or was that just for PS1 games? Hmmm...
Post edited November 01, 2015 by rtcvb32
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Tallima: That said, Windows 10 has been the devil. And supposedly, this is the future. I can hardly play games on it anymore b/c 1/3 of the times I log on, it sucks my CPU bandwidth for an hour to download updates without my permission (and since I'm hooked up by a wire, there's no way to turn that "feature" off). I tried to make an account for my child and they CHARGE you for it! It's just 50 cents, but that's rubbish! I paid $130 for it! Cortana is crap is now turned off. The start menu occasionally glitches and I have to reboot. Also, it's a pain to get organized in any meaningful way.
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PookaMustard: Funny, I don't have many of these issues, but I'm not sure about charging you for making accounts, you lost me here. Clarify that part more?
I have a Core 2 3.0GHz processor. My bro has an i5 and it seems to be able to update without hogging all of his resources. So it may just be too much for my system.

As for 50c per child account, when you try to make one, Win10 tells you that MS needs to verify that an adult is making the account of a child. To prove you're an adult, they need to make a 50c charge on a credit card. I have no idea how that confirms that I'm making an account for a child. Should me selecting "make an account for a child" be enough evidence that I want to make an account for a child? So now I can't give my son the niffty gaming timers or other functions that I switched to Win10 for. I know it's just 50c, but it's the principle of it all.

Anyhoots, I'm fairly certain I'm moving to Linux in a few years' time. Win10 is, as another user earlier said, is more of a consumer-box thing instead of a real OS. I need an OS, not a way to spend money on crap.
Simple click installers for all these games that pre-patch, fix, install for new versions of Windows.
Download:
http://sierrahelp.com/Patches-Updates/NewSierraInstallers.html#M