Also if this is you semi-casual omg! I can't wait to see you serious mode :P you've been awesome so far haha

Anyway if people actually start playing mafia then I'll definitely start getting interested again but I don't really hold any faith that this town is capable of letting go of their tunnel tbh.

Oh yeah we only have 1 vote so, voting oldwino takes the vote off me.

Oh wait I just realized Lift is a bodyguard. This is awesome. That means he can protect in me/you and scum won't be able to kill either of us OR him because they'll die trying. Dude this is fucking boss.

Guys I love my mason bud he's legit the best.

Barring a counter-claim of someone claiming that name or role, that takes Lift out of the discussion.

So it's back to Meda...

You keep claiming you should be 100% confirmed town...

Now that your role is used up as you claim, maybe you can explain how it worked. Such as what would have happened if you had targeted scum when you used it. Because that is the real problem here. You claim that whomever you choose is confirmed Town too, but you had a choice of anyone (including the minority scum population). How does this fit together and how does your role explain this contradiction?

Furthermore, maybe you can explain how your power has no name, but you keep claiming it's Masons. Was that word actually used in your role description or not? You are doing nothing this game but causing confusion. Maybe you need to start playing Mafia, but I get the impression you are incapable of it. Just capable of throwing insults at the rest of the players in the game.

Just curious, this power role is kinda immune to scum night kill as well isn't it? Unless I am mistaken scum gets killed if they hit you right?
I still don't believe meda or darko, especially the way meda keeps repeating that she is conf!town and her refusal to answer questions I asked before.

Fair enough. What do you think I'm lying about, specifically?

So, right, even I'm bored of my flavour posting. I was going to pretend that drealmer was making me do it for the whole game, but I can't be bothered anymore.

Unvote: Meda, I guess. I was being honest when I said earlier that this whole thing reminded me of a Yogsloth ploy, which is why I was voting you for the most part, as I think my paranoia about the whole thing got the better of me. So, for the time being, I'm going to go with this being a non-scum ploy.

As for the rest of it, I really will have to think of who to vote for. Gamma still reads weird to me in general, but I think he/she follows a kind of post style (Mafiascum?) that I'm not familiar with, apart from that Hunter keeps banging on about the same things. Sage hasn't said much. Trent is trent.

Honestly think may be town:

Lifth, RWarehall

Kinda of want to get on oldwino's case for not really contributing and then just dogpiling.

Ugh.

I'm sure as hell not going to give scum a list of whom I read as towniest and whom I might protect. But as I said, I still find Gamma scummy and oldwino a little bit - but mainly because his name reveal before checking the alignment might have been a slip - but that is a very shaky 'might', since we don't know how closely the two games resemble each other. Especially since we have better, more scummy targets available: you, Darko and Gamma.

I don't know whether you really don't see how bad your play would have been if you really were town. Fact is, you damaged town a lot. The only question is did you do it because you are scum? Or just for the lulz because you don't care about the game at all (which would be quite a dickish way to play)? Or because you are stupid? I don't believe the latter, so that leaves you either as scum or as anti-team player. So the assumption that you are scum is actually the most friendly assumption I can make about you.
You keep going on about being conf!town, but you are not! Quite the contrary. You lied. Repeatedly. You try to twist it and portray it as if you didn't and everyone is just too stupid to understand you correctly, but that doesn't change the fact that you made false statements. You didn't say "I am going to try to masonize Lift." you said "Lift is Mason with me." - which was false. Then you did the same with Quad. Then with Darko. And THEN you went back on all your statements and said "Oh wait, actually the word masons doesn't appear at all" - but you refuse to explain exactly how your supposed power works. And to top it all off you even self voted, which is again a dick move of a player who doesn't care at all about the game and the teamplay aspect of it, or a scum move: scum can safely self-vote because they know that the other scum will not pile on. Town doesn't have that security and always hurt town by self voting. So my statement still stands: you are either scum or the worst player ever. I prefer to believe you are scum.
Oh and the fact that Darko said you are one of my daughters doesn't change anything. My daughters can be scum too. Actually in the last game one out of each pair of daughters was scum.

@trent: sorry for my accusation of you doing a 180°. I checked back and actually didn't find that statement Gamma was referring to. And yes, I hate the PGO role too, but I can't help it.

@Hunter: no, according to standard rules the PGO dies too when someone tries to kill him. The scum who does the kill is just killed too. There have been bulletproof PGOs or 'shoot first' PGOs, but my OT didn't say anything about that so I assume I'll die if scum targets me. But a one-for-one trade is good for town, so I'll happily invite scum to come get some!

@Darko: you promised a proof that you two actually do have a Daychat. I still say such a proof is impossible, since scum could fake it. But I am willing to be convinced of the contrary. So go on and prove that you have a Daychat, please!

Yeah, you were right on that. Big bad mod shut my beautiful idea down.
I was hoping it would lead to you making some obviously scummy claim, way to ruin it for me.

YouR down on the game then your up and seem excited at possibly finding a way to stay safe in the game but yet having a QT does not automatically make you town as others have said last game had a mix in the QT.

You confuse me. I really do not like the whole I dont feel people are playing to some standard so im not gonna play my best. Not a fan of this at all. scum or not its not good for town.

I was going to wait to vote meda until i came home tonight. But I do see cspvg removed his vote. While I am not sure of meda alignment, the way she is playing is not good for the game. So I am going to vote meda because we will at least learn something at least this way.

VOTE MEDAMIEDO

That's the tricky thing, meda has several instances of lying whereas with you I don't think I would be able to say the same.

@lift If that was the power then revealing it sometime day 1 would always be for better right? That way we would have you as town then, any protective role would be able to stay away from you and finally mafia would be wary of hitting you given your power.

vote count / votecount / vote-count / VC - 1.08
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medamiedo - 4 - Hunter65536, Lifthrasil, oldwino, Sage103082,
oldwino - 1 - medamiedo,

not voting - 5 - RWarehall, GammaEmerald, trentonlf, DarkoD13, CSPVG

10 alive takes 6 to LYNCH

medamiedo is closest to LYNCH at L-2

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The point is if a PGO manages to appear as town power role, towny enough that investigators leave him alone and scum try to kill him, he has the chance to take out one scum. As I said, a trade one for one is good for town. If he is a likely investigation target, then yes, the PGO should claim before nightfall. Which is what I did. It was always a likely outcome that I would have to claim before the Deadline to protect the PRs, but still I didn't like the way meda fished for my name and Darko kept pushing for my name even after I said, that that would amount to a full claim. So he was in effect pushing for me to claim.
Another drawback of the PGO is, that he can't be confirmed as town by investigators. So the only way to 100% confirm a PGO as town would be a policy lynch. As I said, I don't like that role and it is difficult to play. But being a bodyguard I might die sooner or later anyhow, giving you a flip in the process, if I manage to successfully protect someone.

How (in)convenient! ;-)

If you really are town, please explain your idea after the game.

Oh, and while you're at it, please explain in detail why you are so confident that meda is town. You've been asked this several times but so far you didn't give that explanation.

It's in the quicktopic and I can't delete it since I haven't made an account, so it will be there forever for all to admire now. :D

I really can't explain it in detail without claiming. What I recognize, with my limited knowledge of mechanics and balance and seeing things about this particular setup, is that it would be very weird and (dare I say a bit unfair) for scum to have such a power, especially knowing my own role and taking your claim at face value. I'm not sure the possibility of her being neutral is excluded, but the combination of all the above with how she went about things makes me inclined to believe she's town.


I suspect that a few people have already figured out what the deal is. I've been thinking whether there would be any value to just outright say what's going on and maybe see if people would consider meda confirmed town after that, but there would be complications with that as well. I'll try and discuss it with her.

I really dislike this meda wagon and would rather be lynched myself. Just do not have meda/darko/lift vote me.
Vote Gamma Emerald

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