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Posted June 07, 2017
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burkjon: [...] a very, very healthy #2 in my book, [...]
XD
Taken out of context, that's impressively disgusting. I imagine you'd have to REALLY hate the book in question, though. =D
Post edited June 07, 2017 by HunchBluntley
Posted June 07, 2017
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burkjon: So how did you activate Windows on that offline computer? And how many years do you think you can realistically keep that computer running? Face it, emulation is the ONLY way to keep games running well into the future, and I'm eager to see where projects like PCem take us.

But on the flipside I can see a post-GOG, post-Steam future where subscription-based hassle-free gaming is the norm, and people with GOG installers are fussing with fan-made compatibility patches and emulators while people on subscriptions are just running their games, kind of analogous to today's fixed-up digital downloads vs people with old boxed games.
That particular computer uses Windows 7 (a great operative system), and was pre-installed.

That future you paint is, probably, the future. But not a particular good one. Everything is controlled by the Internet. Only a Internet free "thing" is safe. Of course, family photos, musics, games... whatever. But sensitive material? Nahh... let them be safe in hard drives, stored in different houses.


PS: There is a site (I dunno if publicity is allowed. If not, sorry... ) that's just like what you've said. It's Utomik dot com.
Posted June 07, 2017
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synfresh: I've been gaming pretty much since the 80's. I've owned numerous PC's and consoles along with hundreds of games. I've been a user on Steam since 2005. And I can tell you that since 2005, I never, not once have had an issue where I was denied access to any game I own or had any issue with the client that prevented me from accessing my library. For all of Steam's warts, by large it does work 90-95% of the time and that's good enough for most PC gamers. I always make the joke that at the end of the day, you can be pissed about Steam or anti-DRM on principle, but most gamers just wanna play Skyrim (or insert any game that is only available on Steam). For me, this hobby is about playing games first, that will always be the first priority. How it's delivered to me is secondary.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: On the other hand I was denied my access to my library when I was out of internet for about 2 or so weeks. Waiting for the company to install/start my cable internet service, I couldn't use steam nor my library for that entire time.
Hence my previous post that a vast, vast majority of anti-client/Steam/DRM crowd are those who have had issues that soured them on the experience.
Posted June 07, 2017
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burkjon: That's weird, if you already had your games installed before the net went down (very likely) you could have just enter offline mode to play them. It pops up as an option any time it can't connect.
Steam's "offline mode" is only partially offline. Ever notice how the client updates when you're using it?
Posted June 07, 2017
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Post edited September 06, 2021 by bit.rot
Posted June 07, 2017
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HunchBluntley: XD
Taken out of context, that's impressively disgusting. I imagine you'd have to REALLY hate the book in question, though. =D
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burkjon: Hah, got a chuckle out of me. Some creatures would assume it's a sign of endearment. :P

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richlind33: Steam's "offline mode" is only partially offline. Ever notice how the client updates when you're using it?
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burkjon: Okay, why exactly does that matter?
Would you rather marry a plain woman who loves you unconditionally, or a big-titted bimbo that "loves" you because your wallet is phat?
Posted June 07, 2017
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richlind33: woman who loves you unconditionally
Haha, good one!
Post edited June 07, 2017 by Klumpen0815
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Post edited September 06, 2021 by bit.rot
Posted June 07, 2017
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burkjon: ...yeah, I'm not going to even bother engaging that. About as grade school as it gets.

I'll leave with two points. #1, both Steam and GOG are amazing platforms ushering us into this digital utopia of PC gaming, and they both deserve recognizion and accolade for it. But going so far as loyalty to a for-profit company is pretty seriously dumb. Don't do that. #2, if you're building your GOG library under the assumption that you'll be running those versions of the games forever, you're in for a wakeup call in a decade or so. Some day those installers will be regarded in the same way your old boxed copies are now. Relics.
You must hate Benny Hill. lol
Posted June 07, 2017
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burkjon: Okay, why exactly does that matter?
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richlind33: Would you rather marry a plain woman who loves you unconditionally, or a big-titted bimbo that "loves" you because your wallet is phat?
Would you rather present a non-sequitur false dilemma as an analogy, or drive a speedboat onto a crowded beach, killing and injuring dozens?
Posted June 07, 2017
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richlind33: Would you rather marry a plain woman who loves you unconditionally, or a big-titted bimbo that "loves" you because your wallet is phat?
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HunchBluntley: Would you rather present a non-sequitur false dilemma as an analogy, or drive a speedboat onto a crowded beach, killing and injuring dozens?
Both, at the same time.

Seriously, tho, would you rather have an unconditional "offline mode", or one that's conditional?
Posted June 07, 2017
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burkjon: ...yeah, I'm not going to even bother engaging that. About as grade school as it gets.

I'll leave with two points. #1, both Steam and GOG are amazing platforms ushering us into this digital utopia of PC gaming, and they both deserve recognizion and accolade for it. We should want them both to succeed. But going so far as loyalty to a for-profit company is pretty seriously dumb. Don't do that. #2, if you're building your GOG library under the assumption that you'll be running those versions of the games forever, you're in for a wakeup call in a decade or so. Some day those installers will be regarded in the same way your old boxed copies are now. Relics.
There are games here that are running on DOS box. Ever here of Emulation? Virtual Machines?...................These titles will be running well into the future, if a game has a community, it will be supported, ported, etc.

Comment leads me to believe your new PC
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Posted June 07, 2017
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burkjon: Should have clarified that of course you could find a way to run them, but you're not going to want to bother. I doubt you dig out your boxed copies today if you transitioned to a digital installer, for example. The pure frustration of getting those old copies to work. It's going to be that again.
Eh I have some games both physical and digital on here, I will also keep both just in case I need one or the other.
Posted June 07, 2017
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burkjon: Oh, and Steam offline mode makes installed games work offline if you're offline, unconditionally. I'm a digital nomad who makes use of the feature constantly. I don't know why you'd even be running in offline mode when you're still online, or why that's a point worth making.
Don't look now, but.... lol

The Steam client application's files must be updated to allow for the use of Offline Mode. If your game's status is "100% - Ready" but you receive the message "This game cannot be started in Offline Mode" when attempting to play offline, the Steam client application's files need to be updated.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=3160-AGCB-2555
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