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Kobi_Blade: Refusing to play one game due to DRM is beyond childish, is no different from refusing to enter a club just because they have a bodyguard at the door.
It's more like refusing to pay to enter the club when you know from experience that the bodyguard at the door of this particular club has no intention of letting you inside.
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Kobi_Blade: Refusing to play one game due to DRM is beyond childish, is no different from refusing to enter a club just because they have a bodyguard at the door.
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mechmouse: Imagine going to a club with a friend as a treat, you buy two tickets and go in. But the Bouncer stops your friend.
You point to the ticket, explain they are two different ticket, that you've paid for two separate items. The bouncer says he can't come in because its your name on the ticket.

Just because you fit nicely into the narrow framework that Steams DRM allows doesn't mean its not an issue for others. Steams DRM is a serious issue for me and my Family. I buy 100 games play 1 then I expect the other 99 games to be freely available for the rest of my family to play. Steam does not allow that, and no SFS doesn't allow it either.
technically you are kinda not allowed to "split" a gog license either but whatever


And if drm free comes down to this for you then may I say, you are in for all the wrong reason

TL;DR license agreements are technically similar both steam and gog, you own a user license, not an ownership one, with restrictions of how you may use said software

just because GoG doesnt slaps you on the wrist for it doesnt mean they are okay with it.
Post edited June 12, 2017 by Zetikla
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Kobi_Blade: Refusing to play one game due to DRM is beyond childish, is no different from refusing to enter a club just because they have a bodyguard at the door.
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Barefoot_Monkey: It's more like refusing to pay to enter the club when you know from experience that the bodyguard at the door of this particular club has no intention of letting you inside.
Or not going to clubs because you prefer to throw parties at your own place whenever you feel like it and at your own conditions. ;)
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Kobi_Blade: Refusing to play one game due to DRM is beyond childish, is no different from refusing to enter a club just because they have a bodyguard at the door.
Waitwhat. Deciding how to spend your money is childish?

Eat your veggies or you're grounded, and no screen time at all until you finish reading The Cat in the Hat.
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MiniatureBigfoot: I've very new to GOG, so I might be missing a few things but my options are this.

Steam,
+Far more games, many of them great, like Valve's games or the Max Payne games, among others.
+Very easy to get games for cheap, either by sales or getting keys from other sites
+Some of the features of Steam are great, like having guides a few clicks away or the Workshop for easy browsing of mods. or custom tagging to find games that you might like.
+Cloud saves.
+Muh achievements make you feel like a winner for playing games all day.
-DRM
-Less control over installs.
-Always on-line needed in most cases.
-A case-to case basis, but some games they sell are very broken, some to the point of being unplayable./

GOG
+Some games Steam doesn't have, like the Dungeon Keeper games.
+Can just download the game without needing a client
+Snazzy extras like backgrounds and manuals.
+Free games
+Far better review system then Steam. Plenty of games are more then "It's good" or "It's bad"
+Better refunds.
-Far less games then Steam.
-Harder to find game codes for a discount.
GOG has cloud saves and achievements too you know. :)
-nevermind, said sthg stupid-
Post edited June 12, 2017 by Zetikla
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Senteria: GOG has cloud saves and achievements too you know. :)
Well Galaxy does, which is optional. So I guess it counts in a way.
Post edited June 12, 2017 by MiniatureBigfoot
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Zetikla: TL;DR license agreements are technically similar both steam and gog, you own a user license, not an ownership one, with restrictions of how you may use said software

just because GoG doesnt slaps you on the wrist for it doesnt mean they are okay with it.
GOG says, you buy it, it's yours, that you should feel like you own it. But if they could have their cake and eat it, too, I'm sure they would.
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Kobi_Blade: Be like me and user whatever instead of being a fanboy and stick to one platform.
This has nothing to do with being a "fanboy" of any platform. You have no idea what you're talking about. It's about choosing to spend my money on a product I consider worth it. I don't care whether I get my DRM-free game from GOG, some other online store, the devs website or the old-fashioned way on disc from a physical store (actually, that last one is preferable but pretty uch impossible now). What I are about is it being DRM free. I'm not going to accept policies that limit my rights as a customer and consumer just because "OMG, new shiny AAA game! Must play nao!!1!". It's thanks to people like you, proud of getting screwed over by the companies to save a few bucks and play the newest overhyped triple-A, that such practices have become so commonplace

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Kobi_Blade: Not to mention I get the best deals, by buying the games where it's sold cheapest (that tends to be mostly Steam). This guys are so obsessed with DRM, they forgot what's really important, that is enjoying the games themselves!
Good for you. I'm enjoying my games a lot too, and there is more of them on my wishlist then I can buy even during a sale, and I still have a backlog. I don't feel particularly limited.
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cemacar: Steam's community is toxic.
I like GoG's community. Atleast there is no childish trolls and ignorant persons..
Bwahahahahahahah. You must be new to this community.
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Zetikla: ...just because GoG doesnt slaps you on the wrist for it doesnt mean they are okay with it.
Not having anyone looking over my shoulder with the power to stop me anytime is quite an advantage. I really like it (and really hate being controlled).

Don't get me wrong. I really want to use the games only within their license. However, I think that legally GOG allows me to use games on all computers in a household.

So all in all, GOG cannot and doesn't need to slap me on the wrist. A mature relationship.

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Kobi_Blade: ...what's really important, that is enjoying the games themselves!
You're right that enjoying games is very important but in total everything is important, some aspects more, others less. It's always a compromise between different things that all might be important to someone.

GOG customers enjoy their games too. There are many great games here. It's really not a bad thing, doing without some games, if they do not come DRM free. Games are not the most important thing in life. And who knows, they might become available later DRM-free like Oblivion now here on GOG, even cheaper than it was then when it was available with DRM right after release.
Post edited June 12, 2017 by Trilarion
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cemacar: Steam's community is toxic.
I like GoG's community. Atleast there is no childish trolls and ignorant persons..
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paladin181: Bwahahahahahahah. You must be new to this community.
trust me steam is x100 more toxic than GoG. I know there is trolls in gog too but not that much
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cemacar: trust me steam is x100 more toxic than GoG. I know there is trolls in gog too but not that much
I frequent Steam a bit. Of late, there's less different between the two than most would like to admit. Actually, I take that back. About 6 months ago, there was less different. This community has gotten quite a bit nicer if you ignore the passive-aggressive sniping people do at one another now.
''Opens door''
''Look's in and hears laughter''
''Thinks''
''I wonder what the joke was''
''Oh well,next door''
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Zetikla: technically you are kinda not allowed to "split" a gog license either but whatever

And if drm free comes down to this for you then may I say, you are in for all the wrong reason

TL;DR license agreements are technically similar both steam and gog, you own a user license, not an ownership one, with restrictions of how you may use said software

just because GoG doesnt slaps you on the wrist for it doesnt mean they are okay with it.
I'm not splitting the license. It is mine. I bought it, I own that License.

I know I don't own the code, not more than I own the rights to Harry Potter if I buy a book.

All I'm doing, and its exactly the same for every business in the world, is allowing a private individual (child or wife) use a currently inactive license I own.

If commercial software operated on the same principles as Steam enforces, there would be no commercial software. It would be untenable for companies to rebuy software each time a staff member is replaced or changes roles.

The biggest issue with Licensing, and its one I find hard to understand why it has not yet been fixed, is there are no steadfast laws to govern its usage and the rights of software licensing. Sure there are copyright laws, but they don't cover licensing.

The only things are legal precedents, which currently say you own your licenses and companies can not control usage post purchase.

Its also worth noting GoG licenses allow you to install on any computer you control, since I control my childrens computers I've not breached any licensing.

Lastly under UK laws a EULA is not a contract, closer to a sales notice.

One last thing, DRM allows companies to enforce whatever clauses they see fit without the need to worry about pesky things like laws or legal due process.Without DRM companies need the Law to protect their rights, With DRM consumers need to take multimillion dollar companies to court to protect their rights.