Posted February 10, 2019
Breja
You're in my spot
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From Poland
tiny E
Find me in STEAM OT
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From Other
Posted February 10, 2019
Spectre: Hatred doesn't look like a bad game either if you ignore the ridiculous angsty emo approach.
I own it, and it's not that it's bad, it's that five minutes in you have literally seen THE ENTIRE GAME! :P I mean, at least Wolfenstein 3D had the courtesy to change the color of the walls every now and then; not this game.
Mafwek
Every man for himself and God against all!
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From Croatia
Posted February 10, 2019
Yigdboz: Well, so much for gog's newly claimed "focus only on games" and leaving politics out of it.
If the bits and pieces of correspondence between Cleve and gog are to be believed it's hopefully not too long until curation is re-staffed again with people that properly and objectively judge game submissions instead of letting petty outside things like the dev calling people names on the internet be the scale-tipping factor.
I shouldn't have but I really expected better.
paladin181: You think that's the only reason this turd sandwich of a game was rejected? It's like a love letter to old school RPGs if that love letter was started by a third-grader and only finished about the time he hit 30. But not generally improved for accessibility along the way. If the bits and pieces of correspondence between Cleve and gog are to be believed it's hopefully not too long until curation is re-staffed again with people that properly and objectively judge game submissions instead of letting petty outside things like the dev calling people names on the internet be the scale-tipping factor.
I shouldn't have but I really expected better.
I am sorry, but I have to ask - how do you support yourself then?
Post edited February 10, 2019 by Mafwek
dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
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From United States
Posted February 10, 2019
low rated
misteryo: Over time, though, I grew to recognize that the forums at rpg codex are toxic. And that's not incidental to game criticism. There is so much hate, disdain, and mockery there that they infected their own ability to simply see the real world. It is just fine to have your favorite games. It is not fine to mock and deride those who disagree with you. It is not good criticism to hold all games to a rigid pre-rendered set of standards.
When somebody suggested those forums to me, I took a look at it, saw that they had "brofist" baked into the forum software (it's their version of upvotes, I believe, except that there's a message attached to the post saying how many times it has been (or something like that)), and immediately left. It's one thing for the community to be sexist; it's a whole nother thing for the software itself to be sexist. My decision to stay away, I could say, was vindicated when a forum thread where the topic involved a certain transgender game developer was filled with vile transphobia. From seeing that, I can tell that the forum is *not* a welcoming place for anyone who isn't a cishet man.
morolf: Sure, it's certainly kinda toxic, I wouldn't post there...but most of it probably isn't meant totally seriously. Just edgy shitposting. And the critiques of rpgs one can find there are often quite interesting (even if a bit too hardcore for myself).
Even if it's not meant seriously, it can still make people uncomfortable, and will make people (like me) steer far away from their forum. There's a reason any forum that's not toxic has rules against such behavior. (Another problem with the forum is that all discussion about a game or series is placed in the same thread. This makes it hard to find the specific topic that one is interested in; having separate forums per game, or at least per series, makes things more manageable. This is especially important if one is only looking for topics about a specific aspect of the game, or for spoiler-sensitive people wanting to discuss the game without being spoiled while other people want to have a deep discussion of the game's plot (assuming the forum has sensible rules about spoilers).)
Spectre: You might prefer the other rpg forums which are the opposite.
https://forum. rpg.net/index.php/threads/gamergate-gamergate-thread-ii-circling-the-drain-merged.741583/
These forums are about a different topic. RPGCodex is about CRPGs (and I get the impression that they tend to discuss specifically WRPGs, not JRPGs (which are also CRPGs, but are different stylistically)), while rpg.net is about TRPGs (like Dungeons & Dragons, but that is, of course, not the only game of its type; these are RPGs that you play with a group of people IRL rather than on a computer).https://forum. rpg.net/index.php/threads/gamergate-gamergate-thread-ii-circling-the-drain-merged.741583/
Post edited February 10, 2019 by dtgreene
Ophelium
Introvert
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LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
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From Russian Federation
Posted February 10, 2019
LootHunter: You completely forgot Jagged Alliance: Rage! - a game that, while having it's good moments, is bugged, looks cheap mobile product and totally hated by the Jagged Alliance fanbase (which is supposed to be its main audience). It definitely doesn't belong to top 20% games on Steam, and yet it's here, even with GOG version being worse than Steam one (co-op was cut out).
amok: I like this argument, which when you boil it down is: "gOG have made mistakes before, and should therefor make more mistakes" Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted February 10, 2019
No. It was a key element of the conspiracy.
LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
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amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
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From United Kingdom
Posted February 10, 2019
LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
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From Russian Federation
Posted February 10, 2019
low rated
Well? So why the guy wasn't fired for that mistake? The last time someone on GOG published something without looking at it's context,... you know.
Ophelium
Introvert
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From United States
Posted February 10, 2019
LootHunter: I don't quite get it. You despise such people, but essentially saying that they are right about GOG decisions being politically based?
Nope, that wasn't my point. I was thinking of the most banal thing that constantly pops up on these forums. I guess I should have gone with "Anime is child porn and people who like VNs serve Satan". The point was, if one is being an obnoxious twit, their words probably carry less weight when trying to convince GOG to carry a game.
LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
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From Russian Federation
Posted February 10, 2019
Post edited February 10, 2019 by LootHunter
RWarehall
Ja'loja!
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From United States
Posted February 10, 2019
JA: Rage! is a different story. There is some value to having titles like Might and Magic 9, Crusaders of Might and Magic, Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods, Ultima 9 and the like to be completionist. I'm sure it was added because of that and because of that it might actually sell a bit.
That was part of the problem with Opus Magnum. They had all the other similar games and this game was of similar quality. It belonged here even if GoG judged it slightly inferior (rightly or wrongly).
But that doesn't mean every classic knock-off belongs here the same way. They have to be truly on a par, like Torchlight was to Diablo 2 or Legend of Grimrock was to Eye of the Beholder. I'm not sure most of the games people keep mentioning are on the same level.
That was part of the problem with Opus Magnum. They had all the other similar games and this game was of similar quality. It belonged here even if GoG judged it slightly inferior (rightly or wrongly).
But that doesn't mean every classic knock-off belongs here the same way. They have to be truly on a par, like Torchlight was to Diablo 2 or Legend of Grimrock was to Eye of the Beholder. I'm not sure most of the games people keep mentioning are on the same level.
misteryo
you are required to own on gog
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From United States
Posted February 10, 2019
dtgreene is polite at all times, does not insult, hound, mock, harrass or make fun of people. All of which is what happens over at rpg codex.
LootHunter
Political non-Euclidean
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From Russian Federation
Posted February 10, 2019
Only if you don't consider being called transphobe, homophobe, sexist or nazi to be insults. And politeness doesn't make you less of a bigot, if your stance on political issues is bigotry.