You're absolutely right. What the hell was I thinking? I think we all would hear the implosion coming from somewhere... just like those mysterious "whale" sounds that occasionally pops up at random around the world.

Actually, the whole thing reminds me of the "Streisand effect" but I wouldn't expect him to understand it...

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150107/13292829624/10-years-everyones-been-using-streisand-effect-without-paying-now-im-going-to-start-issuing-takedowns.shtml

I agree. Non-bullshit answer would be much more valuable, esp. when shortly after GOG releases "Jagged Alliance - Rage!" - game which was universally panned in every review.

Cleve Internet persona is somewhat similar to Derek Smart. I don't believe that either of them is unstable, they're just trying to get attention to themselves, and by proxy, to their games - in cheapest way possible, by being controversial.

When discussing and solving technical issues with Grimoire it seems that there is different Clive, someone pragmatic and reasonable.

I am glad for you that you were able to obtain the game. You could also have bought it on steam, downloaded and installed it, and it would have also been DRM-free.
However, you use an argument I've seen often here that I feel is a bit disingenuous: "We are the true goggers, why isn't gog catering to me, instead of catering to these other people?!"
- I have been gaming for over 3 decades now, and even back then, I never cared for these blobbers (totally anecdotal, but there it is).
- People who enjoy blobbers, who have chimed in here and disagreed with this game associating with the legacy of Wizardy 7 or whatever- perhaps they would liken it to claiming this game is made in the legacy of Mario or something.
- GOG definitely has a better grasp on which games of theirs sell and which do not. Unfortunately, due to the way the world works, they'll probably not share this information with us (probably best not to, actually..), so we can't say one way or another. Perhaps the classic games that inspire all the others, don't sell very well compared to other classic games here. Perhaps they went through the game when it was submitted, and decided it just wasn't that great. Perhaps they're short-sighted, and this game will smash the market and revolutionise everything. Perhaps it will slow-burn and be a total cult-classic in 20 years.

It is GOG's decision to make, and the market will prove them wrong or right. Unfortunate that we live in a world where the market determines the official preservation of creative works, but there it is. At least you were able to get the game. It's on the internet, I doubt it'll disappear now.

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You really don't see the difference in the complaints? You don't see the difference between a guy losing his job and a game not being released? In this case I would say we have nothing left to discuss at all.

Cleve is certainly responsible for a ton of drama and it has effected the game. Who knows perhaps it brought visibility overall. I will say this: anyone who thinks it is "sh*t" compared to Wizardry 7 simply hasn't played the game recently or has never cared for Wizardry 7. Perhaps they never played Wizardry 7 or they just think its cool to troll in general. I read earlier in this thread that someone said it was a joke to compare the two games. That couldn't be further from the truth. Taking the game on its own merit it is an outstanding homage to Wizardry 7 and yes I've played both. Wizardry 7 as great as it is is not without its own set of issues. Grimoire's design stays pretty true to W7 while adding minor but impactful creature comforts like annotated auto-mapping, auto logging, leveling attribute allocation etc. Is it perfect heck no. But the story, combat, gameplay experience etc fits like a glove for any "true" Wizardry 7 fan with some improvements.

Consider this - released "as is" today Wizardry 7 might very well have the same Steam rating as Grimoire anyway. Grimoire follows the same design specification as Wizardry 7 including obtuse puzzles and slow reveal of plot, sometimes unbalanced encounters and unforgiving outcomes. Tons of Random. Tons of dying. No hand holding.

Assuming this rejection is true then GOG is simply playing politics which is extremely sad. Blame Cleve for inviting it. Blame GOG for being blatantly SJW.

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Wait, you actually like the current (and broken) iteration of the GoG client?
Oh lordy... I knew there were fanboys but you take the fucking cake.

Stupid me - I should have quoted your whole "obnoxious and horrible" post... :P

EDIT: I'll stop there. It’s just not worth it when some many doesn't get it.

Great, SJW has gone from being a meaningless flame bait noun to a meaningless flame bait adjective. :P

1) Well, it sure looks like he has enough alternative options to get his game released (I didn't even know there are 18/19 digital distribution platforms).

2) Never a good move to publish business related conversations if you plan to ever work with a certain business partner again.

Now - as to the game itself: I would not buy it (neither here nor elsewhere).

Insofar GOG is right with their assessment.
(at least, as far as I'm concerned)

Now, that looks like it's right up my alley.

The Quest is great. Simplistic in comparison to Grimoire but very enjoyable. Turn based and mobile friendly if you want that option.

yep, mine too. and sadly rejected by gog.

So now the ability to purchase a game from your preferred store is a human rights issue? It's not as if you can't purchase the game. No one is deciding what you can and can't play. You still have the option to play the game. You also kind of miss the point that GoG has the right to run their business as they see fit. If you don't like the way they do that you can always purchase from another storefront.