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Orkhepaj: gog was fine without these "games"
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: No it wasn't. In all recent years, including this one, 2021, GOG has either been a) bleeding lots of money and/or b) barely making any profit at all.

GOG has certainly been nowhere close to being 'fine.'

GOG leaving money on the table in order to appease the Puritan/censorship-minded section of its customer base makes zero sense.

If GOG were to continue to ban AO games solely for Puritan/censorship reasons, like it used to do before a months ago, then that means 100% of the money for those games goes to platforms that don't censor & ban them for Puritan reasons, i.e. Steam, Manga Gamer, JAST, etc.
Depends on if you look at the long term or a short term plan.

GOG might make some extra money on these games, but they might also loose money as well.
I just checked my financial statements for last 3 years and GOG expenses are ahead of Steam expenses by a ratio of 4 to 1. I am here from the early days, and I liked their mission.
I was OK to wait a while for games to get here, but now that their web site look like shady porn site pushing asset flip rape simulators in my face, I don't really see any benefits over Steam.

If this is my view, don't you think that there are also some developers that will get tired of this half porn site and decide that it is not worth their time to actually sell games here? Pushing porn games will not stop the decline of GOG. It will more likely accelerate it.

With all the infrastructure and coding in place, GOG could easily make a spinoff Good Porn Games and put these type of games there. No censorship and with 4chan type of forums where everything goes.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: No it wasn't. In all recent years, including this one, 2021, GOG has either been a) bleeding lots of money and/or b) barely make any profit at all.

GOG has certainly been nowhere close to being 'fine.'

GOG leaving money on the table in order to appease the Puritan/censorship-minded section of its customer base makes zero sense.

If GOG were to continue to ban AO games solely for Puritan/censorship reasons, like it used to do before a months ago, then that means 100% of the money for those games goes to platforms that don't censor & ban them for Puritan reasons, i.e. Steam, Manga Gamer, JAST, etc.

It makes no sense for GOG to leave all that money on the table just to appease the Puritan-like sub-section of their customer base.
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Orkhepaj: it does make sense , customers are leaving as they don't want to see these "games" here
To prove Orkhepaj's point. I will not spend a cent on gog until they at least implement some kind of nsfw filter like steam has in place. So, I guess thats one customer gone.
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Orkhepaj: gog should ban these low quality visual novels and never let them back in
these products have no value at all I cant see why any normal people would want to buy them
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Patias: I also think it's crap, but you have to respect the audience that likes it, because it's not about "me" or "you", it's about the plurality of the community, which is why I'm in favor of any and every game genre around here, since that the games are good for the target audience and that they are properly updated and working.
Since GOG also sells movies, maybe they should start selling movies from Brazzers?
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Patias: I also think it's crap, but you have to respect the audience that likes it, because it's not about "me" or "you", it's about the plurality of the community, which is why I'm in favor of any and every game genre around here, since that the games are good for the target audience and that they are properly updated and working.
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bombardier: Since GOG also sells movies, maybe they should start selling movies from Brazzers?
That would probably lead to record profits. Egs would have no chance
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Patias: I also think it's crap, but you have to respect the audience that likes it, because it's not about "me" or "you", it's about the plurality of the community, which is why I'm in favor of any and every game genre around here, since that the games are good for the target audience and that they are properly updated and working.
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bombardier: Since GOG also sells movies, maybe they should start selling movies from Brazzers?
It's unbelievable how some users of this forum love to corrupt the level of debate by throwing simple fallacies like this. I am always impressed by this ability!
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bombardier: Since GOG also sells movies, maybe they should start selling movies from Brazzers?
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Patias: It's unbelievable how some users of this forum love to corrupt the level of debate by throwing simple fallacies like this. I am always impressed by this ability!
How is that a fallacy?

There are porn movies where performers are dressed as game characters. GOG sells movies about video games.
This is the same logic used by you to say that porn games should be sold in a game store.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: No it wasn't. In all recent years, including this one, 2021, GOG has either been a) bleeding lots of money and/or b) barely making any profit at all.

GOG has certainly been nowhere close to being 'fine.'

GOG leaving money on the table in order to appease the Puritan/censorship-minded section of its customer base makes zero sense.

If GOG were to continue to ban AO games solely for Puritan/censorship reasons, like it used to do before a months ago, then that means 100% of the money for those games goes to platforms that don't censor & ban them for Puritan reasons, i.e. Steam, Manga Gamer, JAST, etc.
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bombardier: Depends on if you look at the long term or a short term plan.

GOG might make some extra money on these games, but they might also loose money as well.
I just checked my financial statements for last 3 years and GOG expenses are ahead of Steam expenses by a ratio of 4 to 1. I am here from the early days, and I liked their mission.
I was OK to wait a while for games to get here, but now that their web site look like shady porn site pushing asset flip rape simulators in my face, I don't really see any benefits over Steam.

If this is my view, don't you think that there are also some developers that will get tired of this half porn site and decide that it is not worth their time to actually sell games here? Pushing porn games will not stop the decline of GOG. It will more likely accelerate it.

With all the infrastructure and coding in place, GOG could easily make a spinoff Good Porn Games and put these type of games there. No censorship and with 4chan type of forums where everything goes.
Not really thinking devs and studio's nor publishers will get tired of it or see it not of any lower worth then Steam in that field when Steam is way worse with literally those things and I have yet to see a asset flip game on here outside of one gaming here namely this one https://www.gog.com/game/covid_the_outbreak though others could have slipped past my detection

And for me my Gog spending has gone up and up while Steam spending has gone down further and further.. not for these sorts of games on here mind you but rather for drm free and because GOG still is better then Steam .. while I am though very glad they are branching out

Besides if people are going to complain about porn games then well leisure suit Larry should be targeted too as it technically was and still is a AO porn game ip thats still on here and has been for years even newer entries aswell

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Patias: It's unbelievable how some users of this forum love to corrupt the level of debate by throwing simple fallacies like this. I am always impressed by this ability!
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bombardier: How is that a fallacy?

There are porn movies where performers are dressed as game characters. GOG sells movies about video games.
This is the same logic used by you to say that porn games should be sold in a game store.
''Porn games'' and ''games all about porn'' are two different things as one has porn as while a selling piont isn't the bulk of the game most everything else is in one way or another.. while the other is all about the porn and sexual acts
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Patias: I also think it's crap, but you have to respect the audience that likes it, because it's not about "me" or "you", it's about the plurality of the community, which is why I'm in favor of any and every game genre around here, since that the games are good for the target audience and that they are properly updated and working.
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bombardier: Since GOG also sells movies, maybe they should start selling movies from Brazzers?
nice analogy ,
if it only makes a penny for gog it should be sold here ,
only us bigots want to have a friendly experience with good quality actual games curated store
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bombardier: Since GOG also sells movies, maybe they should start selling movies from Brazzers?
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Orkhepaj: nice analogy ,
if it only makes a penny for gog it should be sold here ,
only us bigots want to have a friendly experience with good quality actual games curated store
You really are trying to sell the buzzword victimhood card now of unjustly targeted card .. Atleast it seems in this reply which doesn't help your case here as most people aren't attacking you or others nor hating you or others on your or others arguments or stance but rather going after the argument .. Atleast so far thats what I have seen in mass in the threads in general so far
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Porn games won't save GOG.. it's easier to create an alt on Steam and get it all there... Porn and DRM-free don't really go together.

But lets face it... not everyone who plays games is an adult, and GOG isn't providing any options to actually block it out... it's basically like putting porn magazines on the bottom shelf so kids could see them as they looked for their games magazines.

Steam is pretty bad with it as is, "hey, due to your settings we have filtered out those games, but click this link right here to see what you've missed out on!"
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Orkhepaj: gog should ban these low quality visual novels and never let them back in
these products have no value at all I cant see why any normal people would want to buy them
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Patias: I also think it's crap, but you have to respect the audience that likes it, because it's not about "me" or "you", it's about the plurality of the community, which is why I'm in favor of any and every game genre around here, since that the games are good for the target audience and that they are properly updated and working.
what have to? Why should I respect them? I don't care for plurality, I bet there are sites they can get these games from probably drm free too
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DetouR6734: Porn games won't save GOG.. it's easier to create an alt on Steam and get it all there... Porn and DRM-free don't really go together.

But lets face it... not everyone who plays games is an adult, and GOG isn't providing any options to actually block it out... it's basically like putting porn magazines on the bottom shelf so kids could see them as they looked for their games magazines.

Steam is pretty bad with it as is, "hey, due to your settings we have filtered out those games, but click this link right here to see what you've missed out on!"
Porn won't save GoG, but a better and wider selection of games (inc AO) will.
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DetouR6734: Porn games won't save GOG.. it's easier to create an alt on Steam and get it all there... Porn and DRM-free don't really go together.

But lets face it... not everyone who plays games is an adult, and GOG isn't providing any options to actually block it out... it's basically like putting porn magazines on the bottom shelf so kids could see them as they looked for their games magazines.

Steam is pretty bad with it as is, "hey, due to your settings we have filtered out those games, but click this link right here to see what you've missed out on!"
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mechmouse: Porn won't save GoG, but a better and wider selection of games (inc AO) will.
agreed this is agreed as games that may have porn in them and nutidy can be a selling piont but so long as its not the majority of the games focus it should work great .. I mean seriously I ain't for porn games but if a game has it as a selling piont but good enough content thats far more the focus rather then the porn parts of it.. like the porn parts are a side thing or is used as a good narrative tool rather then mindless sex and pleasure I can indeed get behind such games
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DetouR6734: Porn games won't save GOG.. it's easier to create an alt on Steam and get it all there... Porn and DRM-free don't really go together.

But lets face it... not everyone who plays games is an adult, and GOG isn't providing any options to actually block it out... it's basically like putting porn magazines on the bottom shelf so kids could see them as they looked for their games magazines.

Steam is pretty bad with it as is, "hey, due to your settings we have filtered out those games, but click this link right here to see what you've missed out on!"
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mechmouse: Porn won't save GoG, but a better and wider selection of games (inc AO) will.
But they ain't though.. curated games yet ones i would buy they ain't bringing across.. i won't be buying porn games here.

Give me a choice to turn that right off and i'll take it in a heartbeat, i got pissed off with Steam for doing that now the majority of games i own are on GOG... shall i just move to Epic and support them instead? screw GOG, screw Steam i'll just support those exclusives instead!

Is that how it's going to be?



Yes i have visited PH a number of times, i do it by choice, it doesn't mean i'd want the pop-ups of old showing me porn everytime i visited a website, thus i use an ad-blocker and numerous other tools to prevent such, if i want to see it i know where to look.
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DetouR6734: Porn games won't save GOG.. it's easier to create an alt on Steam and get it all there... Porn and DRM-free don't really go together.
Why don't they go together? Because of your declaration by fiat that they don't? This is an especially bizarre point in any case, considering one of the counterarguments for your "side" would be that there are already (some) DRM-free adult games being sold on other sites (shouldn't preclude them from being here, but it at least resembles a point)..

I don't want to make a Scheme account and support the continuing DRMification of gaming. I don't want to buy any DRMed products. I want to play what I want DRM-free without moralists appealing to "think of duh children!" and whatever underlying subconscious religio-cultural bias is still weighing on them.

I don't know about your own stances beyond your comment here but what's especially ironic is seeing a few other posters on this board, who gravitate to certain points of view, now being "triggered" by the existence of content that they feel is "offensive" and should be "cancelled" off of the site.

Was it Mark Twain who said something like "don't tell me I can't have steak just because a baby can't chew it"?

Some of the adult games are what I would consider must-have and worth breaking a boycott for, so among all this talk about offended people who are now lost customers, there may be other customers getting re-gained.